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Redczar posted:Why the hell do these people always choose to "move" to countries with governments to the left of the United States? Australia, Canada, UK. It really shows how screwed up their world view is that they don't realize that this "socialist paradise" the United States is becoming is still to the right of most 1st world countries. It's a cargo cult reaction. All their lives they've seen American liberals complain about Nixon/the draft/Bush and respond with "I'm moving to Canada!" so they say exactly the same without even thinking.
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Fat Guy Sexting posted:Where could they possibly go that's more right wing than the States? Twitter Tuesday had a brilliant quote about this. 
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Paper_Masochist posted:Twitter Tuesday had a brilliant quote about this. Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDv4sYwjO0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Fat Guy Sexting posted:Where could they possibly go that's more right wing than the States? Iran or Saudi Arabia.
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Jan 17, 2013 13:01
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Fat Guy Sexting posted:Where could they possibly go that's more right wing than the States? Israel. Any place that would be a desirable place for republicans is either full of non whites, isn't christian, or was/is a geopolitical enemy.
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Jan 17, 2013 13:55
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Redczar posted:Israel. You're talking of a Marxist welfare state as right wing? 
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Jan 17, 2013 14:05
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Leospeare posted:I had a friend saying that his taxes were so high, he was seriously thinking about moving to Australia. I know where they get that idea from 
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Jan 17, 2013 14:06
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Leospeare posted:They probably are talking about the EOs but don't understand what they are, or what sort of powers the executive branch has. Schoolhouse Rock didn't cover the difference between legislation and EOs in the "I'm Just a Bill" song. Along with the EO's, Obama made recommendations to Congress on a number of possible legislative actions, including a ban on military-grade weapons and limits on magazine size. So it's possible that's what they're referring to. In which case, they're correct, the NRA will never let those things through the House. loving move to the UK... gently caress  e: Oh, my preference for a country Tea Party types would like is Somalia. No strong central government, no taxes, guns everywhere, etc.
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Oh come on we all know they'd hate Somalia because of all the brown people. First thing they'd do once they get there would be setting up a strong government to push all the non-whites away. The only countries these people ever really loved was America before the civil rights movement and South Africa under apartheid. Edit: I do wonder though how they can so uncritically cite Pinochet's Chile as a model, as seen during the Republican primaries. Orange Devil fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jan 17, 2013 |
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Nenonen posted:You're talking of a Marxist welfare state as right wing? I was thinking more socially than politically, but you are correct.
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Orange Devil posted:Oh come on we all know they'd hate Somalia because of all the brown people. 
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Twelve by Pies posted:I felt happy that my Facebook friends list had been basically purged of any crazy right-wingers, and haven't seen anything about Obama or gun control in many an age. How about "not even cops carry guns in the UK"
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Mornacale posted:I really like this one (and the whole talking point) because of how subtly it dehumanizes people. It asks us to believe that there are two separate categories: non-criminals who obey all laws, and criminals who do not obey any. It's a completely absurd black-and-white viewpoint that rejects even the idea of empathy. It is a child's view of the world. Hope you don't mind that I just used your comments on FB because an old high school acquaintance just posted that nonsense. We'll see how/if he responds. I grew up in a small metro area in Western New York (the Rochester area, for those who care). I'm starting to notice an interesting correlation among the people I went to high school with. The people who had any sort of liberal or progressive tendencies got the hell out of Dodge and are now spread all over the place, while the conservative people are still there, or at least are still within spitting distance of the town we grew up in.
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Have you guys heard of NAGR, or the National Association for Gun Rights? Basically it's the NRA for people who think the NRA is too liberal and weak  There's a guy I used to be friends with who is so up Ron/Rand Paul's rear end that his wife divorced him over it that will not shut the gently caress up about it. You know a person is crazy when they think the NRA has gone too far with compromise. Fart Sandwiches fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Jan 17, 2013 |
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xwonderboyx posted:Have you guys heard of NAGR, or the National Association for Gun Rights. Basically it's the NRA for people who think the NRA is too liberal and weak Oh poo poo I have a friend who also is like this. When I knew him he was pretty normal now he is a huge Paul fan and linking to this group. For a while I thought he was a Paul fan due to his drug policy but he has drunk the Flavor-aid hook line and sinker.
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xwonderboyx posted:Have you guys heard of NAGR, or the National Association for Gun Rights. Basically it's the NRA for people who think the NRA is too liberal and weak I'd be willing to say a guy is crazy when his wife divorces him because he won't shut up about the Pauls. The rest is just crazy icing on the cake.
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Technogeek posted:Tell me about it. I had someone link this a few days ago: http://govtslaves.info/5-reasons-why-ill-never-get-a-flu-shot/ The argument has digressed into "well I don't understand what the ingredients are so my child doesn't need it, just like with food." gently caress everything. 
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This thread reminds me of why everything is terrible. Now I feel bad that December 21st wasn't the end. Maybe I missed it, did anyone here ever get that email of a power point explaining how credit cards are going to be implanted under the skin and how that is the mark of the beast Obama etc etc etc.
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I had someone argue this in response to "Obama's family gets death threats daily, that's why they have a ton of armed guards. quote:Daily death threats or not--a hand gun would have been nice the day that crazy, drugged out homeless man attempted to get into my vehicle while stopped at a red light in DOWN TOWN BANGOR (pulling on my door handle which was thankfully locked, pounding on my window screaming at me to let him in). Either she wanted to kill the guy for intimidating her - she wasn't in any physical danger, certainly - or she wanted to use the gun to intimidate the guy, which is (as far as I know) irresponsible ownership. Either way, the fact that she may not be able to keep a pistol in her glove box isn't keeping me up at night. Also someone else referred to criminals who will get guns despite the law as "Obama's gangbangers in Chicago." But standard dog whistle racism doesn't get posted in this thread, its too common.
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Paulywallywalrus posted:This thread reminds me of why everything is terrible. Now I feel bad that December 21st wasn't the end. Maybe I missed it, did anyone here ever get that email of a power point explaining how credit cards are going to be implanted under the skin and how that is the mark of the beast Obama etc etc etc. I kind of want to start a conspiracy that the world really did end on the 21st, and that this is all fake. But I suspect there's already something to that effect that people really do believe. Boxman posted:I had someone argue this in response to "Obama's family gets death threats daily, that's why they have a ton of armed guards. Plus, there's nothing stopping her from owning a Handgun now, and Obama did not say anything about pushing to ban handguns nationwide (a ban that Heller already resolved as unconstitutional). So, basically, Obama thinks his family needs Secret Service agents AND thinks you should be able to have a handgun to protect your family.
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Why do people think they look like a voice of reason when they're lamenting being unable to murder the mentally ill / homeless? That came up a week or so ago in this very thread, I think, where someone was using "those crazy people on street" as an example of someone you might have to summarily execute for bothering you in public. To me, that exposes someone as a very particular kind of rear end in a top hat, as people who literally don't understand anything but force.
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Snoggle posted:It's a cargo cult reaction. All their lives they've seen American liberals complain about Nixon/the draft/Bush and respond with "I'm moving to Canada!" so they say exactly the same without even thinking.
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This person on my feed is about to get the unsubscribe. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the USA? Are you loving kidding me?   edit: Here is proof guys, ready? "The United States Census Bureau" checkmate
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cheerfullydrab posted:
This seems legit, except that it left out the following part: "Not at the head, where a fatal wound might result. But at some other body part, such as a leg." And that it was part of a talk about how violence should be remembered but forgiven. Not, "Dalai Lama supports vigilante violence". Sarion fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jan 17, 2013 |
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Craftics posted:This person on my feed is about to get the unsubscribe. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the USA? Are you loving kidding me? This image made me unsubscribe a friend. I commented with a haughty "Reminds me of the Patriot Act".
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Before leaving them, I would post, "Oh hey, it's pretty sickening you would dare try to use abortion as some kind of argument against small levels of regulation on ARE GUNS" *unfriend*
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Craftics posted:This person on my feed is about to get the unsubscribe. Abortion is the leading cause of death in the USA? Are you loving kidding me? The thing about this is that the person posting it isn't really trying to stop those 2700 daily deaths they say they're concerned with. That Holocaust they claim is happening is secondary to fearmongering about the assault weapons ban.
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Between this thread and a couple of my more conspiracy-minded friends on Facebook, I kind of hate the internet right now.
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Tibetan Buddhism is a lovely form of Buddhism but it's what most people in the USA know as "Buddhism". It's known for being the most peaceful of the (non-christian) religions, so if they say something (out of context) positive about guns, it must be true! Will anyone who posts that even give a second thought about the religion afterwards? Sweet Jesus in heaven, no!
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KillerJunglist posted:Tibetan Buddhism is a lovely form of Buddhism but it's what most people in the USA know as "Buddhism". It's known for being the most peaceful of the (non-christian) religions, so if they say something (out of context) positive about guns, it must be true! Besides, it's a statement about how two people who already have guns should act; not a statement of belief that society should arm every man, woman and child with a gun.
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cheerfullydrab posted:
I just love how the quote is all that matters to these people, there is never any desire to find consistency in character or belief. The Dalai Lama is also a capitalist-hating Marxist that is tolerant of homosexuality and ok with abortions for ethical or quality-of-life issues. His point has nothing to do with guns anyway, it's about the use of necessary violence in a dire situation (and as another poster pointed out, specifically non-lethal violence). I have a feeling that the Dalai Lama would frown upon a woman shooting a homeless guy banging on her car window.
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Twelve by Pies posted:I'm just dumbfounded by his response to tightening of US gun laws being to move to the UK, where gun laws are even stricter. I don't think he's talking about the EOs, because someone said something about it not passing the House/Senate. So I have no clue what they're referring to. They have their "go bags" packed, and are waiting for orders. Before I outed myself, as a dirty Liberal, my cousin posted a picture of his go bag, and said he would be prepared when the order came.
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Sarion posted:The NRA is now using this as an attack: Obama is a hypocrite because he doesn't want armed guards in schools, but allows his daughters to be protected by Secret Service officers! Can we just respond with this: Gun Violence Reduction Executive Actions posted:18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers. and call it a day?
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All of my attempts at limited arguments about gun control end with "we need them to defend ourselves in case Ruby Ridge or Waco happens again" (and once with the lyrics to Dixie), which I honestly have nothing to respond because I have no idea what either of those are. Wikipedia's explanation of the incidents implicate federal organizations as poorly handling/instigating armed stand-offs, is that pretty much it? A few times the feds have screwed up and they're pointing fingers at them as being tyrannical?
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This just popped up on fb, with the comment, "WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-BLEXeY3N8 Yeah, that made me realize, you're not insane after all.
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That Facebook status I posted last night, I checked it again today and it turned into two people talking about Fast and Furious. The first guy said it was a secret government conspiracy to enact gun bans, and the second guy claimed the government had nothing to do with it. They talked back and forth about it before it was revealed that the second guy thought the first guy was talking about the Vin Diesel movie. I'm suddenly glad I saw that status now.
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Kat R. Waulin posted:This just popped up on fb, with the comment, "WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!" Wow the best part of this is we know the answers to all this stuff. This was amazing. What does he want, a complete narrative every time they mention the story?
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A crazy forwarded political email made the news! http://www.examiner.com/article/kansas-speaker-o-neal-asks-house-gop-to-pray-for-obama-s-death Kansas GOP Speaker of the House posted:At last — I can honestly voice a Biblical prayer for our president! Look it up — it is word for word! Let us all bow our heads and pray. Brothers and Sisters, can I get an AMEN? AMEN!!!!!! 
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Twelve by Pies posted:That Facebook status I posted last night, I checked it again today and it turned into two people talking about Fast and Furious. The first guy said it was a secret government conspiracy to enact gun bans, and the second guy claimed the government had nothing to do with it. They talked back and forth about it before it was revealed that the second guy thought the first guy was talking about the Vin Diesel movie. Debating on Facebook in a nutshell.
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