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A Buff Gay Dude posted:The Division is at this point a legit better game than Destiny, I said to a stupefied 2016 me. if only they'd fix the 45 min wait time on Survival...
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the good fax machine posted:If you look at the loot tables, especially hard mode drops, for every raid from vault until now, you'll notice that it's a consistent decline in quality. This is not counting age of trump, which did have some fully sick gear, but a lot of people were burnt out at that point. Vault of glass hard mode drops had elemental primaries which included Fatebringer and VoC, which were without question the best legendaries in the game and also gave you a really good reason to run the raid every week. Crota also had elemental primaries, but they were a bit underwhelming compared to vault weapons, and also had some really OP stuff like Black Hammer. Kings Fall was where they really stopped giving OP weapons, and killed elemental primaries. A lot of the guns were decent to good, but the hard mode drops were only different in color. Wrath weapons also had some neat perk synergy, but once again, reskinned weapons for hard mode. I also forgot that some of the earlier raids had some armor pieces like helmets locked behind hard mode drops, and then stuff like shaders or ships could be hard mode drops too. Now, it's just reskinned armor. Yeah weapons getting blander and blander is an issue, but im of the opinion that the VoG/Crota era stuff was actually too good, mostly because I thought elemental primaries were not good design (they still aren't lmao, D2's loadouts suck). When they were released as kinetic legendaries in AoT they were fine. For Oryx the weapons were half amazing and half total poo poo, but cocoon was fully sick. Plus you still had the higher light thing going for them at the time, so they were "adequate" on the whole but a slight overcorrection. Touch of Malice was inspired. WoTM had certain guns HM exclusive iirc, right? Weren't the pulse and HC only from HM? Plus you're dang right that they had great perks. And the raid gauntlets were the greatest thing of all time. I thought WoTM nailed exactly what raid stuff should be: situationally OP in PvE but not dominant in PvE, and with cool fun perk combos you can't get anywhere else, but wouldn't be a deal breaker if you couldn't use them. The current raid guns are good, but good in the sense that they outclass some pretty drab and boring stuff. The armor is worthless, and the prestige mode is a joke. With the exception of a few exotics, the loot in D2 is just boring as poo poo. Pozload Escobar fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Oct 23, 2017 |
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After about 3.5 hours we got our little group past bathers tonight on the prestige mode. That poo poo is hard. I'm hoping Calus is easier.
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Oct 23, 2017 05:40
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I was playing with some people who wanted to do it blind. Two hours in I was looking up how to get past poo poo and being like "what if we did..." because sweet mother of pussy being stuck on the baths all night was basically a circle of hell for the damnedly nerdy. Oh you must have been in the group I was in. "How about we figure out what we're supposed to do?" "NO THAT RUINS THE POINT OF THIS BEING A BLIND RAID HOW DARE YOU"
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Oct 23, 2017 06:10
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I keep landing in strikes where I'm killing more than the GROUPED other two people combined. What the holy gently caress.
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Oct 23, 2017 06:30
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Captain Log posted:I keep landing in strikes where I'm killing more than the GROUPED other two people combined. Sounds like most of my Strike results. Makes me wish all the more that Bungie would implement some loving PvE leaderboards into the game.
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Oct 23, 2017 06:35
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TaurusOxford posted:Sounds like most of my Strike results. Makes me wish all the more that Bungie would implement some loving PvE leaderboards into the game. Most players are awful, news at 11. No but really, most players are awful. I'm laughing at all of the times I tried guided games.
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Oct 23, 2017 06:45
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I'd be doing more strikes if it wasn't for the fact that you get 3 loving tokens out of it.
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Oct 23, 2017 06:46
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SmallpoxJenkins posted:I'd be doing more strikes if it wasn't for the fact that you get 3 loving tokens out of it. I'd be doing more crucible if it wasn't for the fact that you get 1 loving token out of it.
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Oct 23, 2017 06:49
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Completely forgot when I ducked into Crucible that I had The Prospector equipped from running public events and strikes, got a hilarious mid-long range kill with it before swapping  Very fun gun to dgaf with in pve, especially when you can just crank out a full cylinder at an enemy. I'd maybe gently caress with grenade launchers more in pvp but Acrius is too perfect for my playstyle to give up without a nerf or something. Re: running strikes, I throw a movie or something on and mindlessly grind them. No effort and two other people are earning exp for me.
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Oct 23, 2017 06:55
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why not do that same thing with public events? not like you’re chasing a god roll vanguard drop lmbo
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:WoTM had certain guns HM exclusive iirc, right? Weren't the pulse and HC only from HM? Plus you're dang right that they had great perks. And the raid gauntlets were the greatest thing of all time. I thought WoTM nailed exactly what raid stuff should be: situationally OP in PvE but not dominant in PvE, and with cool fun perk combos you can't get anywhere else, but wouldn't be a deal breaker if you couldn't use them. You're right, the HC, pulse, sniper, sidearm and the machine gun were all hard drops. No armor, but the machine gun was certainly top-tier. Vault and Crota weapons were definitely op, but I'd rather be closer to that than where we are now. They overcorrected for Oryx (with regard to there only being different colored gear for hard mode) , struck a decent balance with WOTM, and then we get several steps back again.
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Oct 23, 2017 07:18
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https://twitter.com/dasharez0ne/status/922238844577173510
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Oct 23, 2017 07:25
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iirc, hm wotm did drop armor, but the only difference was that it could take the challenge mode ornaments.
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Oct 23, 2017 07:33
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If people keep bitching I'm going to make someone run me through HM WotM. Seriously though, the game has problems. But I still love it.
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Oct 23, 2017 07:41
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For a game that has more stuff to do out of the gate then D1, you really quickly realize that almost none of it matters. Like there is almost no reason to do Strikes, PvP, or challenges unless you have the "powerful gear" milestones up, in terms of progression. I would also love a feature that we could click on that gives us only the type of guns we like (like 75% of my gun drops are Pulse rifles and Snipers)
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Oct 23, 2017 09:05
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Anora posted:For a game that has more stuff to do out of the gate then D1, you really quickly realize that almost none of it matters. Like there is almost no reason to do Strikes, PvP, or challenges unless you have the "powerful gear" milestones up, in terms of progression. Yeah that's the issue. Also you can get all the guns in a couple of weeks, most of them are bad. Exotics are lame. The armor is only different in looks. Tokens for everything. Light level means nothing. Prestige mode anything or flawless trials grant nothing beyond what tokens give you. Bungie. Where's the drat flavour.
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Oct 23, 2017 09:12
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This night I have dreamed that Bungie had a Pet Store and somebody was trying to return a dead parrot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218
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Oct 23, 2017 13:25
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Watched my son level up a Titan (LL 170) using some random, green AR and doing 10 more damage per crit on a walker than my 295 Warlock using Uriels. Cool shooting game, but needs a lot more friendship to hide the fact that the loot is loving useless.
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Oct 23, 2017 13:55
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Anora posted:For a game that has more stuff to do out of the gate then D1, you really quickly realize that almost none of it matters. Like there is almost no reason to do Strikes, PvP, or challenges unless you have the "powerful gear" milestones up, in terms of progression. You could just like, play because you think it’s fun
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Oct 23, 2017 13:56
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Tei posted:This night I have dreamed that Bungie had a Pet Store and somebody was trying to return a dead parrot. Mr Praline: "I wish to complain about this game what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very electronics boutique. Owner: Oh yes, the, uh, Destiny 2...What's,uh...What's wrong with it? Mr. Praline: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. It's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
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Oct 23, 2017 13:56
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FishBulb posted:You could just like, play because you think it’s fun And then you can stop when it gets boring playing the same poo poo over and over again
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Oct 23, 2017 14:14
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Captain Log posted:I keep landing in strikes where I'm killing more than the GROUPED other two people combined. Matchmaking raids will fix this game, don’t worry
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Oct 23, 2017 14:17
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Honestly I STILL haven't done more than a third of the raid. I'll probably try to this week,but I still have that, exotic quests, prestige nightfall, adventures, etc. to do. For me though it's because any of those is an hour and a half at most and the raid isn't (unless you know what you're doing), but I almost feel like the clan engrams were a misstep. I haven't gotten any armor but I have the rocket launcher, scout rifle, and six billion auto rifles, and all you get from each step of the raid is tokens mostly. I want to do the raid for fun but there's no actual point now, like getting sick robot hats in the Vault.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:26
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I hope they come up with a better progression system than milestones at some point.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:31
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RBA Starblade posted:Honestly I STILL haven't done more than a third of the raid. I'll probably try to this week,but I still have that, exotic quests, prestige nightfall, adventures, etc. to do. The Raid HAS TO DROP more loving gear. I did gauntlet, baths, and dogs for the first time and got a big fat zero non-token loot. Tokens can't even be used until you beat Callus AFAIK.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:35
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:And then you can stop when it gets boring playing the same poo poo over and over again Yes I mean why wouldn’t you
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Oct 23, 2017 14:36
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Idea: "hardcore mode pvp" - Before you can enter, you must define your loadout. Gear locked inside. - Everyone have the same light. - Ladders - Seasons - Rewards for being top 10% and top 20% or top 40% on your ladder at the end of weeks "softcore mode pvp" - You can change your loadout - Light advantages enabled - Super recharge faster - Grenades recharge faster - No ladders Still two pvp buttons, but the hardcore get what they want, and the softcore gets what they want. XMAX PvP event: light orbs fall from the sky slowly like snow
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Oct 23, 2017 14:39
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I’ve cleared the raid 6 or 7 times now with a few more partial clears on coaching newer or drunker clan members through, and I still haven’t gotten the loving RL. I’ve gotten around 5 duplicate warlock chests, though! (Not that it matters too much on NM as damage isn’t an issue at all in it)
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Oct 23, 2017 14:40
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They think they can entice me to keep replaying the same poo poo for what... New armor prices? Some pointless Checklist of activities? I'll pop in for each new season, but only getting one balance patch is going to be interesting, and we'll definitely end up with things like "This is the lightning wizard season". (Crosspost from Diablo 3 thread)
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Oct 23, 2017 14:42
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What was wrong with bosses have loot tables AND coins where you could actually buy the poo poo you wanted? Boss and raid loot isn't some new thing. I'm not sure why they thought everything in the game should be gambling.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:43
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Norns posted:What was wrong with bosses have loot tables AND coins where you could actually buy the poo poo you wanted? Boss and raid loot isn't some new thing. Gacha loot for tokens is the worst idea in an RPG ever.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:48
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Norns posted:What was wrong with bosses have loot tables AND coins where you could actually buy the poo poo you wanted? Maybe they think they don't have enough content for that. That people will have full gear too faster and say "theres nothing to do".
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Oct 23, 2017 14:50
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Also milestones are a garbage way to slow down progression. Not that getting to 290+ is hard. But one of my characters is just stuck at 304 cuz the loving milestone won't drop a helmet for me. It's been 3 weeks
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Oct 23, 2017 14:53
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Norns posted:What was wrong with bosses have loot tables AND coins where you could actually buy the poo poo you wanted? Boss and raid loot isn't some new thing. You CAN get gear from the raid encounters, it’s just much rarer. It is dumb, though, and it’s dumb that each encounter doesn’t have a unique table, especially given the encounter rotation mechanic.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:53
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I get tokens for official Tower/Crucible/IB/faction events and such but I'm not sure why I'm finding them in chests all over the universe instead of "Dusklight Cache" or whatever. I just imagine Devrim had a whole supply of tasty chocolate medallions, but those wascally Fallen stole them all and hid them! Help Devrim get his candy back for a fun surprise! Your 40th identical Lincoln Green
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Emron posted:You CAN get gear from the raid encounters, it’s just much rarer. It is dumb, though, and it’s dumb that each encounter doesn’t have a unique table, especially given the encounter rotation mechanic. Bosses and encounters should have set drops with random raid loot peppered into each bosses set loot table. Then coins for poor guy who's been doing it 3 times a week for a month for his raid launcher.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:56
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Norns posted:Also milestones are a garbage way to slow down progression. Coincidence?
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Akuma posted:When I finally got 305 boots, which was the only thing holding me back, I deliberately put on the lowest power boots I had and put everything else in the vault (keeping every other piece at 305.) gently caress I'll try anything at this pont
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