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WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

QuarkJets posted:

Maybe you're looking at some other green party?

I think we were looking at some other document, actually. Page numbers don't seem to apply to the document I've been looking at, which is far less detailed than your quotes, so I think you have information I don't.

I've been talking about the platform found here:
https://www.greenparty.org/Platform.php

Is there some other source we should be using?

Maybe this 2010 source? http://www.p2012.org/issues/platformenv.html

WrenP-Complete fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Nov 17, 2016

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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

WrenP-Complete posted:

I think we were looking at some other document, actually. Page numbers don't seem to apply to the document I've been looking at, which is far less detailed than your quotes, so I think you have information I don't.

I've been talking about the platform found here:
https://www.greenparty.org/Platform.php

Is there some other source we should be using?

Maybe this 2010 source? http://www.p2012.org/issues/platformenv.html

That's GPUSA, which is an older organization that I don't think is a recognized political party anymore. The Green Party that still runs candidates is a spinoff of that older organization

http://www.gp.org/platform

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

QuarkJets posted:

That's GPUSA, which is an older organization that I don't think is a recognized political party anymore. The Green Party that still runs candidates is a spinoff of that older organization

http://www.gp.org/platform

Thank you for information!

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

DeusExMachinima posted:

Space-based solar is hella cool, but the hard void is a pretty unforgiving environment and you'd be replacing panels way more often up there than if they were just down here on Earth. Also building terrestrial power storage for when the sun's not out is much cheaper than launch costs for anything.
I think in general anything space-based like that is operating under the assumption we'll manufacture it all up there. Launch costs are insane.

As for panel replacement, that's a big "yep". You just have to overshoot your intended maximum capacity by like 20-25% and be prepared to replace early and often when tiny poo poo blows through it.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Isn't that what forcefields are for?

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

DACK FAYDEN posted:

I think in general anything space-based like that is operating under the assumption we'll manufacture it all up there. Launch costs are insane.

Yup. That's one reason asteroid mining is getting increasing attention. Getting the space infrastructure to start loving around in space up is going to be expensive and difficult but once you have the basics up it gets cheaper pretty quickly. Gravity wells are a pain to escape but once you figure out ways to build everything outside of one it's far easier and cheaper. Granted that also has its own unique challenges but we're pretty clever apes; we'll sort that poo poo out eventually.

Until we figure out stuff like space elevators we'll have to rely on making poo poo on site. Granted 3D printing in space is also promising as all hell.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

DACK FAYDEN posted:

I think in general anything space-based like that is operating under the assumption we'll manufacture it all up there. Launch costs are insane.

As for panel replacement, that's a big "yep". You just have to overshoot your intended maximum capacity by like 20-25% and be prepared to replace early and often when tiny poo poo blows through it.

IIRC I think there was a Japanese (?) company that was talking about launching solar panels into space and beaming the energy down, but they ran into a bunch of snags. The Energy Megathread would probably have more info about it

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

DACK FAYDEN posted:

I think in general anything space-based like that is operating under the assumption we'll manufacture it all up there. Launch costs are insane.

This reminds me of a fun topic I've always mean to import from the Spaceflight thread in SAL. Opinions on Elon Musk: is he a Randian ubermensch or a generic (trigger warning) NEOLIBERAL?

Who What Now posted:

Isn't that what forcefields are for?

Fun fact: we actually have the technology to project force fields on a limited scale. Unfortunately they can't stop micro-debris that would gently caress up orbital solar panels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_window

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

MikeCrotch posted:

In short

1: You can only do it where there's suitable sites
2. It really fucks up the local ecosystem bad and has big NIMBY problems

And:
3. All the best locations are already in use, and expanding the power output from existing ones is usually impossible.

Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy

MikeCrotch posted:

In short

1: You can only do it where there's suitable sites
2. It really fucks up the local ecosystem bad and has big NIMBY problems

loving NIMBYs get off my zoning board!

Nitrousoxide posted:

The rectenna would be enormous

I've seen rectennas before, you won't fool me!

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

I worked on JRodimus Prime's "brain" last night and then today...
:siren:

JRodimus Prime posted:

If we speak about the need for consensus to act. If all workers owned factories together, endless meetings and deliberations would be better in the morning should be proportional, in other words. I gently caress watermelons for pleasure and to reassure myself in my worth.

WrenP-Complete fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Nov 18, 2016

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!

WrenP-Complete posted:

I worked on JRodimus Prime's "brain" last night and then today...
:siren:
:perfect:

Jrodbot tells us the truth that Jrodefeld won't!!

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

WrenP-Complete posted:

I worked on JRodimus Prime's "brain" last night and then today...
:siren:

:vince:

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

WrenP-Complete posted:

I worked on JRodimus Prime's "brain" last night and then today...
:siren:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYj7T9eEQ4U

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

WrenP-Complete posted:

I worked on JRodimus Prime's "brain" last night and then today...
:siren:

Libertarian thread: I gently caress watermelons for pleasure and to reassure myself in my worth.

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Libertarian thread: I gently caress watermelons for pleasure and to reassure myself in my worth.

Libertarian thread: I gently caress watermelons for pleasure and to reassure myself in my worth.

JRodimus Prime posted:

God is dead.

Vindicator
Jul 23, 2007

I had somehow convinced myself that he never even responded to someone accusing him of that.

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Vindicator posted:

I had somehow convinced myself that he never even responded to someone accusing him of that.

He hadn't. When I was making the bot over the summer (and was new to the thread), someone in this thread asked me to ask him about melon loving. I said that the word melons didn't exist in the corpus, and could they point me to an example of a quote of him talking about melons. They gave me a quote or two. I suspected strongly they made it up. This was the only time the bot has ever mentioned it.

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

WrenP-Complete posted:

He hadn't. When I was making the bot over the summer (and was new to the thread), someone in this thread asked me to ask him about melon loving. I said that the word melons didn't exist in the corpus, and could they point me to an example of a quote of him talking about melons. They gave me a quote or two. I suspected strongly they made it up. This was the only time the bot has ever mentioned it.

I think he had at one point finally addressed the accusation, but it was a thin attempt to "get chummy again" which happened like right before or right after one of his most recent bans. I'll see if I can dig it up. Otherwise, I wasn't here yet when the idea of him being a melon fucker was born, so I'm fuzzy on the details of it coming into being.


edit:

The post in question: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3745862&userid=189984&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#post451511920

jrodefeld posted:

Nope, never hosed a watermelon. Have you?

All right, I'll mellow out and check out some of the rest of the forum. By the way, who do you write for?

I play some video games myself, not as much as I used to. I think I recall from a previous post, you mentioned you play some World of Warcraft? Am I remembering that correctly? I could never get into those sorts of games personally, but I'll play an RPG or two once in a while.

This was from over a year ago (Oct 2015, wow, have I really been following the Libertarian thread for that long?).

CovfefeCatCafe fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Nov 19, 2016

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

YF19pilot posted:

Otherwise, I wasn't here yet when the idea of him being a melon fucker was born, so I'm fuzzy on the details of it coming into being.

I think it started as a joke about his tendency to studiously ignore questions he didn't have a good answer for, iirc.

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

YF19pilot posted:

I think he had at one point finally addressed the accusation, but it was a thin attempt to "get chummy again" which happened like right before or right after one of his most recent bans. I'll see if I can dig it up. Otherwise, I wasn't here yet when the idea of him being a melon fucker was born, so I'm fuzzy on the details of it coming into being.


edit:

The post in question: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3745862&userid=189984&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#post451511920


This was from over a year ago (Oct 2015, wow, have I really been following the Libertarian thread for that long?).

Oh, then I very much apologize for possibly impugning the honor of the goon in question who gave me the melon loving quote for the corpus!

Caros
May 14, 2008

Goon Danton posted:

I think it started as a joke about his tendency to studiously ignore questions he didn't have a good answer for, iirc.

Ding ding.

Jrodefeld had a bad tendency of ignoring questions he didn't want to answer and it frustrated a poster into asking him if he'd ever hosed a watermelon. After that it became a running joke.

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Caros posted:

Ding ding.

Jrodefeld had a bad tendency of ignoring questions he didn't want to answer and it frustrated a poster into asking him if he'd ever hosed a watermelon. After that it became a running joke.

Guess who has his own twitter account?!
https://twitter.com/JRodimus_Prime/status/799997033281179648

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Caros posted:

Ding ding.

Jrodefeld had a bad tendency of ignoring questions he didn't want to answer and it frustrated a poster into asking him if he'd ever hosed a watermelon. After that it became a running joke.

It's the gift that keeps on giving, really; it's legitimately funny because really who fucks watermelons? How do you even gently caress a watermelon? It makes no drat sense!

I think that was the main thing that outed him as an insufferable idiot. He never once responded to anything at all I asked him and I was making it a point to indicate why his ideas were loving stupid. The things he advocated were provably insane and wrong.

Granted the crowning moment I had nothing to do with; when he was claiming that a literal slave state was one of the freest nations in the world he outed himself as a colossal dumbass. At that point I couldn't even think of him as bad or evil anymore. He's just loving stupid and doesn't know any better.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Someone's never watched American Pie, I see.

(good for you)

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

paragon1 posted:

Someone's never watched American Pie, I see.

(good for you)

Wait what?

JustJeff88
Jan 15, 2008

I AM
CONSISTENTLY
ANNOYING
...
JUST TERRIBLE


THIS BADGE OF SHAME IS WORTH 0.45 DOUBLE DRAGON ADVANCES

:dogout:
of SA-Mart forever
I unironically liked that film if only for the reason that I have a long-standing crush on Alyson Hannigan for which I do not apologise one iota.

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013



The name of the movie derives from a scene where a young man has sex with an American pie, as in the baked good. But this seems like a poor comparison, wouldn't one have to make a hole in the watermelon before loving it? Watermelons are hard, pies are soft.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Congrats on the new title and tag, thread, we did it! :toot:

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Granted the crowning moment I had nothing to do with; when he was claiming that a literal slave state was one of the freest nations in the world he outed himself as a colossal dumbass. At that point I couldn't even think of him as bad or evil anymore. He's just loving stupid and doesn't know any better.

That was the best part of the thread.

Income taxes are modern-day white slavery, but don't call forced labor in the Emirates slavery or you're a whiner.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Who What Now posted:

Congrats on the new title and tag, thread, we did it! :toot:

Truly we live in a post Jrodefeld era of peace and prosperity.

Caros fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Nov 20, 2016

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Rappaport posted:

The name of the movie derives from a scene where a young man has sex with an American pie, as in the baked good. But this seems like a poor comparison, wouldn't one have to make a hole in the watermelon before loving it? Watermelons are hard, pies are soft.

All Jrod needed was to think about how much freer we'd all be if the government stopped forcing dairies to pasteurize, and he'd get hard enough to punch right through that rind like it was a Chilean dissident's skull in the mid 70s.

Morroque
Mar 6, 2013
Under normal circumstances, I think the effect of continued automation on the workforce and its effect on the cohesion of society is a thing that needs to be examined closely or else it will result in amplifying the effects of economic inequality.

But in the case of Jrod's automation, I will happily make an exception.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

VitalSigns posted:

That was the best part of the thread.

Income taxes are modern-day white slavery, but don't call forced labor in the Emirates slavery or you're a whiner.

That was the other jrod thread actually.

Rappaport posted:

The name of the movie derives from a scene where a young man has sex with an American pie, as in the baked good. But this seems like a poor comparison, wouldn't one have to make a hole in the watermelon before loving it? Watermelons are hard, pies are soft.

okay I know for sure that there was a movie exactly like american pie that featured a young man carving a hole in a gently heated watermelon to stick his dick into.

that or i've finally gone ~caraaazzzyyyyy~

Polygynous
Dec 13, 2006
welp
watermelon loving is a time honored tradition

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Wow the thread tag was even changed to be mega-appropriate , good job mods

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках
Personally I think the watermelon should be topping. :mmmhmm:

Jizz Festival
Oct 30, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

paragon1 posted:

okay I know for sure that there was a movie exactly like american pie that featured a young man carving a hole in a gently heated watermelon to stick his dick into.

that or i've finally gone ~caraaazzzyyyyy~

I remember that also, but it's impossible to google it without finding weird porn.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Jizz Festival posted:

I remember that also, but it's impossible to google it without finding weird porn.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Captain_Maclaine posted:

All Jrod needed was to think about how much freer we'd all be if the government stopped forcing dairies to pasteurize, and he'd get hard enough to punch right through that rind like it was a Chilean dissident's skull in the mid 70s.

God bless you, and this thread.

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