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RedQueen
Apr 21, 2007

It takes all the running you can do just to stay in the same place.
10 more days until Trump never visits or cares about California agian

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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

uncurable mlady posted:

we are in such a weird timeline

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

♬ I Know You're Dying Trying To Figure Me Out♬

♬My Name's On The Tip Of Your Tongue Keep Running Your Mouth♬

♬You Want The Recipe But Can't Handle My Sound My Sound My Sound♬

♬No Matter What You Do Im Gonna Get It Without Ya♬

♬ I Know You Ain't Used To A Female Alpha♬
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/736381305785581568

whenimmashoo
Jun 12, 2013



SirPablo posted:

#ChickenTrump highest trending tag on twitter. Way better than Dangerous Donald.

Will this finally be what stumps the Trump?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 18 days!)

SirPablo posted:

#ChickenTrump highest trending tag on twitter. Way better than Dangerous Donald.

#donaldducked is also really good

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...
How is dilbertbro doing on Bill Maher

Is he killshotting everyone

L-Boned
Sep 11, 2001

by FactsAreUseless
They both are awful.

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

whenimmashoo posted:

Will this finally be what stumps the Trump?

exposing a bully as a coward is a common trope, so no because nothing matters and the cult of personality is spinning wildly out of control.

i'm beginning to think there might be something under the surface with ben carson, because he's pushed the "grown man more naive than 5 year old child" angle way past believability.

theHUNGERian
Feb 23, 2006

Darkman Fanpage posted:

drat it why didn't i think of this?

footage of trump turning on california's water



I bet he got yelled at by Manafort for saying something as stupid as 'turn the water on.' As a result they are going to spend weeks/months brainstorming actual solutions and come up with ... building a pipeline that carries sea water from the Pacific ocean to California. Slam dunk!

Edit: loving beaten 5 pages ago.

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

shiksa posted:

exposing a bully as a coward is a common trope, so no because nothing matters and the cult of personality is spinning wildly out of control.

i'm beginning to think there might be something under the surface with ben carson, because he's pushed the "grown man more naive than 5 year old child" angle way past believability.

He legitimately has undiagnosed autism we've been over this

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
ben carson just sounds incredibly evangelical, nothing repressed or hidden beneath the surface, no vast stash of pornography in his basement like most other evangelicals

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

♬ I Know You're Dying Trying To Figure Me Out♬

♬My Name's On The Tip Of Your Tongue Keep Running Your Mouth♬

♬You Want The Recipe But Can't Handle My Sound My Sound My Sound♬

♬No Matter What You Do Im Gonna Get It Without Ya♬

♬ I Know You Ain't Used To A Female Alpha♬

Oiled and Ready posted:

He legitimately has undiagnosed autism we've been over this

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx
If God is using Trump, for sure it's one of those Book of Job situations where He made a bet with Satan.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

silvergoose posted:

These loss edits are getting really fuckin weird.

Nice!

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

well this definitely swings more in the on the spectrum side of things.

Slate Action
Feb 13, 2012

by exmarx
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/736388616214220801

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

PleasingFungus posted:

in half-assed defense of trump, environmentalists are using california's water, in a desperate attempt to keep our last salmon from going extinct


so, i mean. there is a tradeoff here. it's "california's almond profits" versus "the last of california's wild fish", but, hell, it's a tradeoff

a big part of the salmon conversation has to do with the economy, for example it's the department of commerce's national marine fisheries service that plays the most direct role in dictating how the cold water pool in reservoirs (mostly shasta) are to be managed. although the fish and wildlife service also has a say

now for a soliloquy on california water

we start with one basic reality; 80% of the rain falls north of sacramento and 80% of the water is used south of sacramento. you've gotta get that water from north to south somehow. the only natural hydrological route is through the delta, which is where the sacramento and san joaquin rivers meet and head toward the golden gate bridge



the san joaquin river, coming from the southeast (it runs not far north of fresno near its upper reaches), is sucked dry in all but the wettest years by agriculture, so it's not a major factor. all that northern water stored in those reservoirs from the rainy season flows down the sacramento into the northeast corner of the delta and is sucked into two major canals by massive pump stations on the southwest corner

not only does that pull sacramento water, it also pulls saltwater from the ocean, which is an obvious drawback; also, a lot of fish get chopped up into tiny little bits by the pumps in the process, migrating salmon and trout go the wrong way up rivers flowing backwards, and a bunch of other poo poo. pulling all that water, and the salt from the ocean, into the delta doesn't just gently caress with the ecosystem, it also threatens industries like farming in the delta (who have legal rights to fresh water at their pump heads antecedent to almost everybody else's rights) and salmon fisheries all the way up the pacific coast. it's not an ideal way of getting water down south, and even if there were zero environmental restrictions, the brutal reality that those pumps are pulling on both the sacramento river and The loving Ocean puts a cap on how much fresh water can make it through this bottleneck

a quick look at current reservoir levels will help show that most of the rain el nino brought to california this year is penned up north of the delta. take a look at this image, but also click on this web site
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cdecapp/resapp/getResGraphsMain.action

see how the two key northern reservoirs, shasta and oroville, are above historical averages, and the southern reservoirs aren't? note especially how low san luis is - that's the reservoir where northern water is stored after its journey across the delta, before it's sent down either the california aqueduct, to LA, or the delta-mendota canal, to one of the most intensive farming regions on earth, the san joaquin valley

try using the 'change date' function at the top right of the map on the web page. set it to a year ago - you'll see that the northern reservoirs were hilariously empty, but san luis was actually fuller than it is right now! set it to a year like 1998 and you'll see that when there's a couple years of non-drought hydrology, san luis can get full - but one rainy winter wasn't enough to do it. the delta pumps have their limits.

would those limits be higher without environmental regulations? yes, of course. would the cap on pumping be even higher with, ahem, a tunnel directly connecting them to the sacramento river, bypassing the delta and therefore the ocean and the salmon migration route entirely? why yes indeed they would.

assuming the law protects delta inflow from the sacramento, such a solution would be win-win-win - even though the pumps would have to accept some limits when natural sacramento river outflow wasn't enough to satisfy both delta requirements and a little so-cal skimming off the top, they could be running at a higher rpm than they can now, since they'd be pulling directly from a freshwater river flowing downhill as opposed to a brackish wetland open to The loving Ocean

but consider this question; have los angeles and san joaquin valley agribusiness, in the long run, ever not sucked up every single drop of water that engineering could allow them, regardless of what the law might have said before their voters and lobbyists changed it?* THAT, not the hydrology or the environmentalism, is the problem

it's why an engineering solution that, given current regulatory restrictions, would enhance the efficiency of the system has been blocked ever since it was called the peripheral canal and jerry brown's dad was governor. it's why environmentalists, hilariously, sadly, prefer to have southern california's straw pulling through the largest wetland on the pacific coast rather than around it - every page of california's history indicates that if you give southern california a drop of water they'll take a million acre-feet, and when it comes to cutting off so-cal's tap, environmentalists hold a better hand of cards in court in the 'through' case than the 'around' one

and it's not like southern california is assuaging anyone's fears - the most powerful municipal water district in america used their portion of southern california's taxpayer dollars to buy a couple islands in the delta, including two that the planned tunnel would run under. a hundred years ago, los angeles bought up the owens valley's water rights, and for a century now the city of los angeles has been sucking the owens valley dry. northern california is right to be afraid

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/04/11/la-water-district-buying-up-delta-islands/

all that is to say that when march floods go into the ocean instead of into san luis reservoir, sure it gives san joaquin valley republicans something to whine about, but there's a hell of a lot more going on here than just culture wars mmx: electric boogalmmxvi. we're talking about engineering, hydrology, politics, and history - the constraints on these pumps are not just written up by whiny san francisco liberals, they're also underwritten by billions of dollars in salmon industry investments, farmers in the delta with inalienable water rights, and even every once in a while actual physical constraints, if you can even imagine that a little thing like gravity could stop water in california from flowing toward money

*admittedly, inter-state and -national compacts regarding the colorado river have set a limit on how much water southern california can suck out of that particular insane mountain-climbing straw, and they haven't been able to kill the delta yet, but when you take the long view, those guys have a way of getting their hands on water. those tunnels aren't even gonna be on the ballot this year! so yeah, i may be guilty of exaggeration, but it's not like the owens valley didn't get sucked dry, and it's not like nobody ever wrote a movie called chinatown

i bet trump talked to some california republicans, because he's delivering their talking points in his style. as always, he's telling his audience what they want to hear, but let's not pretend that he's bad at telling his audience what he wants to hear. somebody in that organization is doing their research, not into reality but into perception

oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 04:06 on May 28, 2016

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

trump looked in a mirror once and found god

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

Patter Song posted:

I love the phrasing that Trump is "starting to" believe in a higher power. Even Ben Carson doesn't buy that Trump is a serious Christian.

He's almost 70 years old, but I think he's finally coming around to this whole jesus thing!

crowoutofcontext
Nov 12, 2006

neonnoodle posted:

If God is using Trump, for sure it's one of those Book of Job situations where He made a bet with Satan.

The Book of Jeb!

Cyron
Mar 10, 2014

by zen death robot

Huh, i don't know mush about billy joal but i assume he been very left unless he became far right like a ton of boomers did in 9-11.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
he's bad at driving

Von Sloneker
Jul 6, 2009

as if all this was something more
than another footnote on a postcard from nowhere,
another chapter in the handbook for exercises in futility

Cyron posted:

Huh, i don't know mush about billy joal but i assume he been very left unless he became far right like a ton of boomers did in 9-11.

From searching on twitter, I've gathered that Joel said, "this next song is dedicated to someone who has kept me entertained the last few months -- Donald Trump." Then he played "The Entertainer."

Looking forward to the tweets that come from Trump when someone explains to him what actually happened.

edit: apparently he's been doing this regularly, and also dedicates "New York State of Mind" to Ted Cruz.

e2: lol

Von Sloneker fucked around with this message at 04:07 on May 28, 2016

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Von Sloneker posted:

From searching on twitter, I've gathered that Joel said, "this next song is dedicated to someone who has kept me entertained the last few months -- Donald Trump." Then he played "The Entertainer."

Looking forward to the tweets that come from Trump when someone explains to him what actually happened.

hah. it won't sink in, fortunate son is still a patriotic song.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

The San Diego PD twitter makes it sound like they broke a record for number of protesters arrested at a Trump rally.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Looks like he's finally ready to start the fire.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

theHUNGERian posted:

I bet he got yelled at by Manafort for saying something as stupid as 'turn the water on.' As a result they are going to spend weeks/months brainstorming actual solutions and come up with ... building a pipeline that carries sea water from the Pacific ocean to California. Slam dunk!

Edit: loving beaten 5 pages ago.

build the keystone pipeline, have it carry oil AND water

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Sir Tonk posted:

Looks like he's finally ready to start the fire.

:stare:

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

bottom right is missing *blows huge vape cloud*

a real chump
Jul 30, 2003

noice
Nap Ghost

paranoid randroid posted:

i was always fond of the rejoinder to that "mugged by reality" quip.

"neoconservatives are liberals who, having been mugged by reality, find themselves unable to ever face their attacker again."

From ages back but I enjoyed this.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar
gently caress everything

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

I'm not convinced it's going to matter since Trump has shown he can say whatever the gently caress he wants about 9/11 without serious blowback, but christ what an rear end in a top hat:

quote:

NY Democrat: Trump should return money to 9/11 recovery fund

WASHINGTON — Donald Trump is “a small man” for accepting $150,000 from a federal fund for small businesses hurt by the Sept. 11 attacks and should return the money or donate it to charity, a New York Democratic congressman said.

“In grabbing that money with both fists, you took it out of the pockets of small business owners in New York who were truly hurting,” Rep. Jerrold Nadler wrote in an open letter to the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.

Nadler referenced reports earlier this year that the real estate billionaire accepted the money from the World Trade Center Business Recovery Grant program.

The lawmaker’s letter, posted on his campaign website and dated Thursday, represented the latest Democratic attempt to focus attention on Trump’s wealth. They’ve also repeatedly demanded that he release his income tax returns, which he has declined to do until IRS audits are finished.

Spokespeople for Trump’s campaign did not immediately return emailed requests for a response.

According to Nadler’s letter, Trump received the money from the grant program for one of his companies, 40 Wall Street LLC, which owns a Manhattan skyscraper.

Citing previous reports, Nadler said that Trump company had $26.8 million in annual revenue. The federal definition of small businesses is those that have earned less than $6 million, Nadler said.


“Whatever the size of your business, we need no further proof that you are a small man,” Nadler wrote.

Nadler said that Trump told an interviewer that none of his properties was damaged in the attacks on New York.

“Your exploitation of our bravest and most generous citizens shows us all we need to know about what lies within your heart,” wrote Nadler.

Nadler’s district includes the site where the World Trade Center towers stood before they were toppled in the attacks.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...3dae_story.html

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...
HOW DID DILBERTBRO DO

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

♬ I Know You're Dying Trying To Figure Me Out♬

♬My Name's On The Tip Of Your Tongue Keep Running Your Mouth♬

♬You Want The Recipe But Can't Handle My Sound My Sound My Sound♬

♬No Matter What You Do Im Gonna Get It Without Ya♬

♬ I Know You Ain't Used To A Female Alpha♬

Oiled and Ready posted:

HOW DID DILBERTBRO DO

found a short clip but it was just the same poo poo he has been writing about, not really anything new

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pX1SkJMCrI

said trump will win in a landslide

RoboCicero
Oct 22, 2009

oystertoadfish posted:

a big part of the salmon conversation has to do with the economy, for example it's the department of commerce's national marine fisheries service that plays the most direct role in dictating how the cold water pool in reservoirs (mostly shasta) are to be managed. although the fish and wildlife service also has a say

now for a soliloquy on california water
hi just dropping by to say that i read this and appreciated it, thanks for the writeup

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Grey Fox posted:

I'm not convinced it's going to matter since Trump has shown he can say whatever the gently caress he wants about 9/11 without serious blowback, but christ what an rear end in a top hat:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...3dae_story.html

I'm glad to have things like things occasionally to remind me what a scumbag he is.

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

oystertoadfish posted:

a big part of the salmon conversation has to do with the economy, for example it's the department of commerce's national marine fisheries service that plays the most direct role in dictating how the cold water pool in reservoirs (mostly shasta) are to be managed. although the fish and wildlife service also has a say

now for a soliloquy on california water


god-tier post

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Grey Fox posted:

I'm not convinced it's going to matter since Trump has shown he can say whatever the gently caress he wants about 9/11 without serious blowback, but christ what an rear end in a top hat:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...3dae_story.html

republican nominee donald trump huge piece of poo poo, film at 11.

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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

This is a really good summary of the issue. Well done.:golfclap:

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