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Hollismason posted:"I feel like if you've seen one Star Wars film you've seen them all" My mom while we discussed the Avengers. harsh but fair
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Show your mom TPM. Discuss what a work of cinematic art is is immediately after with your newly enlightened mother.
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May 2, 2018 05:45
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Timby posted:So the Resistance will have marshaled and rebuilt its forces after getting its poo poo pushed in, and then it will be the story of the Resistance taking one final strike against the First Order (in Leia's honor, naturally) to end this second galactic war or whatever. I really don't know what the hell they were thinking with reducing the Rebels to a dozen refugees on the Falcon. Of course it would fit perfectly with the sequels trilogies lack of care for the setting or any kind of narrative progress to just give and take resources to the various factions so they never change. It's like how Cobra always has an army to fight G.I Joe every week despite having all their stuff exploded last week.
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May 2, 2018 09:44
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galagazombie posted:I really don't know what the hell they were thinking with reducing the Rebels to a dozen refugees on the Falcon. Of course it would fit perfectly with the sequels trilogies lack of care for the setting or any kind of narrative progress to just give and take resources to the various factions so they never change. It's like how Cobra always has an army to fight G.I Joe every week despite having all their stuff exploded last week. it makes way more sense if you think of it as being the star wars cinematic version of the 2016 election
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May 2, 2018 11:30
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BarronsArtGallery posted:it makes way more sense if you think of it as being the star wars cinematic version of the 2016 election It does fit well. Except that in Star Wars there's hope. But in our reality, there is none. 
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May 2, 2018 17:46
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Jonathan Fisk posted:death star 4 Let's not forget the
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May 2, 2018 19:28
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AndyElusive posted:Show your mom TPM. "Hmm, if you've seen one Star War you've seen them all. But this is pod racing!"
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May 2, 2018 19:35
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Hey, can we talk about the worst line in Star Wars history? The sand speech, “Now this is podracing,” “It’s a trap!”, “Only the Sith deal in absolutes,” are all silly, but at least they fit in a general milieu of silliness. But “We aren’t going to win by fighting who we hate, but saving who we love” stands out for being utter nonsense, just defying all sense and reason in the movie you just watched. First reason is the obvious plot inconsistency. For all Finn and Rose know, if that laser goes off the First Order’s going to kill everyone in that cave. They don’t know Luke or Rey are around, so as far as they know they are the last line of defense. Finn’s not charging the laser because of some crazy vendetta, he’s doing it to save his friends, who he loves. Second is a thematic reason. Taking a stand against heroic sacrifices is a little rich when there was a heroic sacrifice a few minutes beforehand, and the movie ends with a heroic sacrifice a few minutes later. I suppose the difference is that Luke doesn’t kill anyone or destroy anything, whereas blowing up the laser would have been too violent. Destroying a spaceship, on the other hand… Along with the earlier point, this highlights the meaningless of the statement. Was Holdo fighting who she hates or saving who she loves when she charged the destroyer? The answer, of course, is both, because it’s not a meaningful distinction. Third and most importantly, the line relies on you not having understood anything that Finn or Rose have done in the entire movie. The first thing we see Finn do, as soon as he wakes up, is ask “Where’s Rey?” and do everything he can to get away from the fight so that Rey isn’t led into a deathtrap. Seems to me like he’s not “fighting who he hates”, but is instead trying to “save who he loves.” And who stops him from doing that, anyway? It’s Rose Tiko, who gets really upset that anyone would not want to fight the people she hates, attacks Finn with a taser because she hates traitors, and drags him across the galaxy to wreck a casino full of people that she hates. So, at the end of the movie, for her to go “Hey Finn, you’ve got it all wrong! We’re not going to win by fighting who we hate, but saving who we love!” is pretty loving rich. It just seems like one of the screenwriters and Rian Johnson got really attached to the line early on in the process and couldn’t cut it, even when the script changed to the point where it was completely stupid to include. I guess that’s the lesson we should take away. Just like the past, we need to kill our darlings, if we have to.
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May 2, 2018 22:42
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Don't group "It's a trap" in there, that's a great line. I always thought the meme started because of how awesome it was. Not because of how lame people thought it was. It was punctuated by the scene directly after, showing the Imperial Fleet lead by the SSD directly behind the Rebellion Armada. That poo poo WAS a trap. The growing realization building to that exclamation rules. gently caress the haters.
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May 2, 2018 22:56
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there's some hot take about american politics to make regarding that line but i can't be bothered to make it cogent beyond it being about as lame as hillary's campaign slogans
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May 2, 2018 23:16
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The Last Jedi owns completely, sorry guy.
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May 2, 2018 23:20
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I'm just weirded out by anyone who falls in love over the course of an afternoon.
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May 2, 2018 23:22
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Yeah the literal 24 hour timeline just kills the whole story for me.
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May 3, 2018 01:44
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Captain Splendid posted:I'm just weirded out by anyone who falls in love over the course of an afternoon. not that this was what was intended but you could see it as her desperate for any connection with another person because she's still grieving over her sister
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May 3, 2018 01:51
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I mean, Finn latched on to Poe, and Rey real quick in TFA, so... I'm still trying to figure out how someone raised from childhood by the First Order knows what a boyfriend or girlfriend is When are we getting the short story about Finn's love for romance novels?
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May 3, 2018 02:30
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Rose knew of Finn from a distance way before she met him in real life.
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May 3, 2018 02:34
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euphronius posted:Rose knew of Finn from a distance way before she met him in real life. "way before" meaning the indeterminate-but-realistically-no-more-than-a-week time period between the second half of TFA and TLJ.
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May 3, 2018 04:18
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Week? Finn goes to the resistance base with Han then they immediately leave for starkiller then he goes into a coma.
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pospysyl posted:Hey, can we talk about the worst line in Star Wars history? The sand speech, “Now this is podracing,” “It’s a trap!”, “Only the Sith deal in absolutes,” are all silly, but at least they fit in a general milieu of silliness. But “We aren’t going to win by fighting who we hate, but saving who we love” stands out for being utter nonsense, just defying all sense and reason in the movie you just watched. Even if it fit the themes of the movie, it'd still be a terrible line, because it's so god drat lazy to just have a character outright say the moral as if this is an old kid's cartoon. The fact that the film doesn't support that moral just makes it stand out more, but it'd be a painfully awkward line in any context. It's like how in Rogue One, rather than actually show characters being inspired, they just had them say "Hope" a lot. The recent films have had a real problem communicating themes through anything other than awkward speeches.
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May 3, 2018 05:03
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Star Wars is nothing like a kids cartoon!!!
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May 3, 2018 06:33
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AndyElusive posted:Don't group "It's a trap" in there, that's a great line. I always thought the meme started because of how awesome it was. Not because of how lame people thought it was. It was punctuated by the scene directly after, showing the Imperial Fleet lead by the SSD directly behind the Rebellion Armada. This guy get it.
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May 3, 2018 11:24
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HannibalBarca posted:"way before" meaning the indeterminate-but-realistically-no-more-than-a-week time period between the second half of TFA and TLJ. Well sort of. It had also been a year or so since TFA came out.
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May 3, 2018 13:26
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euphronius posted:Well sort of. It had also been a year or so since TFA came out. Yeah, Rose had plenty of time to see the movies, she could have Redboxed that poo poo.
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May 3, 2018 13:39
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Exactly. She was in love with the image of Finn the hero from the beginning. Hero images are a big theme !!
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May 3, 2018 13:41
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CelticPredator posted:The Last Jedi owns completely, sorry guy. I actually like the movie as a whole (well, all the parts that are about The Last Jedi, anyway), which is why the line is so disappointing.
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May 3, 2018 20:45
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Interview with Ron Howard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3F7dS4DPxI Also a clip! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgaC0ytqdv4 BigglesSWE fucked around with this message at 17:20 on May 4, 2018 |
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May 4, 2018 17:13
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The direct lifts of music from A New Hope and the great sense of import given to Chewie getting into the copilot chair are not filling me with high hopes for this movie.
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May 4, 2018 17:34
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That music would be from The Empire Strikes Back, bud. Gosh it's like you're not a real fan or something! (joke).
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May 4, 2018 17:38
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Well I mean, all jokes aside if you're gonna be nitpicky at least be correct about the poo poo you're being nitpicky about.
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May 4, 2018 17:39
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BigglesSWE posted:That music would be from The Empire Strikes Back, bud. Gosh it's like you're not a real fan or something! poo poo, you're right. I was thinking it was the TIE Fighter Attack from ANH, but it's the Asteroid Field. TLJ is the movie that lifted the TIE Fighter Attack. The point still stands. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 17:42 on May 4, 2018 |
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May 4, 2018 17:40
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That score is not great. Was hoping they would go with something different like what's in the other trailers. Then again it's a movie that needed a new director to fix it. Of course they're keeping it as safe and samey as possible.
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May 4, 2018 17:41
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Pops Mgee posted:That score is not great. Was hoping they would go with something different like what's in the other trailers. Then again it's a movie that needed a new director to fix it. Of course they're keeping it as safe and samey as possible. It's such a shame, every note of music from the OT is just beaten into the ground. Movies, games, everything, there's just nothing left. Do something new. At least try a new arrangement.
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May 4, 2018 19:18
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That's what Rogue One did. It was cool.
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May 4, 2018 19:23
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May 4, 2018 19:51
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euphronius posted:Exactly. She was in love with the image of Finn the hero from the beginning. Hero images are a big theme !! As an aside, I back forums user "euphronius" 100% at all times, unless he's talking about the prequels
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May 4, 2018 19:54
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So what are the last two properties Mickey needs?
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May 4, 2018 19:57
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Universal and Warner Brothers.
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May 4, 2018 19:58
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thrawn527 posted:The direct lifts of music from A New Hope and the great sense of import given to Chewie getting into the copilot chair are not filling me with high hopes for this movie. your loving name is thrawn and you don't realize that's from Empire's "the asteroid field" goddamn son, you must be a confused individual
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May 4, 2018 20:10
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AndyElusive posted:So what are the last two properties Mickey needs? dude idk and idgaf i just saw it on facebook and i thought you folks would like it, aight? edit: I stopped watching the goddamn awful Marvel films at Iron Man 3 but I did watch Guardians of the Galaxy (volume 1) and i liked it a lot, but gently caress everything Avengers-wise
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AndyElusive posted:So what are the last two properties Mickey needs? wait does thanos actually have 6 fingers? or rather, 5 fingers and a thumb? does the thumb have a place for an infinity stone? i don't know any of this poo poo, and these details are why i hate this entire premise
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