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Slayerjerman posted:Mo Well yeah, when the only other professional mech game out there is MW:O I can see how investors might be wary about financing another mech game. Without digging into the history of PGI:s extreme incompetence it must look like mech games just aren't popular.
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Feb 15, 2017 09:58
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Artificer posted:Battletech never made it huge. But it also made it big enough to squeeze out the market for other stompy robot games. It's a niche market to be sure, but there are a LOT of 30 something nerds (well, a lot in the scale of people who have opinions about robot games) with tons of BT nostalgia, whether it's from table top or MW2. Trying for a completely different thing just isn't going to draw that easy BT audience. I mean, gently caress, I'm guilty of that. I'm mostly in this because a huge chunk of middle school was spent rolling dice to shoot at my best friend's Warhammer. The game play is fun enough, but I'm just a sucker for that whole run-down, Mechwarrior mercenary thing.
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Feb 15, 2017 15:17
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Part of it is advertising.  is amazingly stupid and can't drive a marketing campaign anywhere but, into the ground. Another part is that killed all of the good will they had by being terrible and making half-assed attempts to change that perception. I think they also figured that there is so little on the market they can get by charging a premium for slacking off.So basically staggering incompetence, greed and laziness. You could argue that malice should be added to that list but, I don't think the cnidarian intelligence they have running that company could figure it out.
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Feb 15, 2017 15:42
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Also, coming into this game as a solo player must be hell, there is no good description of all the stuff you need to understand to be somewhat competent at the game. And the grind is real, and without any guidance you will probably waste your meager winnings on bad mechs and bad weapons. I would have dropped this game a long time ago if there didn't used to be lots of people from here to play with.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:02
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TjyvTompa posted:I do not understand why MW:O is the only mech game, how come there aren't other big games where you pilot a mech and shoot big guns? The only other mech games I know about are those horrible Japanese anime mech games and they stink. Remember Chromehounds? Check out M.A.V. I have it and it's not bad. I reinstall it every so often to check its progress and it's always been fun and held together with a core community.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:20
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Skoll posted:Remember Chromehounds? Check out M.A.V. I have it and it's not bad. I reinstall it every so often to check its progress and it's always been fun and held together with a core community. Quadlegged mechs? Sold.
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Feb 15, 2017 21:33
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A good armored core game for PC would be welcome.
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Feb 15, 2017 21:49
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Azuth0667 posted:A good armored core game for PC would be welcome. I always heard good things about those games.
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Feb 15, 2017 21:50
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Armored core is amazing, and there's been rumours of a new one coming. Hopefully it'll be real.
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Feb 15, 2017 22:46
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People said the same thing about XCOM:EU, it turned into one of the biggest selling games of the year and so did it's sequel. Nobody makes RTS games anymore because the genre is 'dead' but the real reason is nobody is willing to take the risk AND put in the dedication and time to do something new.
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Feb 16, 2017 00:09
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Slayerjerman posted:Mo Sounds like we need to find a marketing goon and launch a crowd funding attempt. "MechWarrior game from not !" Should be an easy sell.
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Feb 16, 2017 07:14
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So has anyone taken the name Kellyanne Kerensky and gone to spread Alternative Facts about the clans yet?
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Feb 16, 2017 08:42
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The Repo Man posted:So has anyone taken the name Kellyanne Kerensky and gone to spread Alternative Facts about the clans yet? they all go by *some "badass" name* Kerensky on MWO afaik and bitch if you don't play their baby lrm game
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Feb 16, 2017 08:45
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:they all go by *some "badass" name* Kerensky on MWO afaik and bitch if you don't play their baby lrm game I was referring to the legion of Kerensky goons. We've got tons and tons of Kerensky alts sitting around.
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Feb 16, 2017 08:49
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I gotcha I was just kinda making a really lovely joke about the grogs with their alt facts about lrms and poo poo SORRY
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Feb 16, 2017 08:51
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:I gotcha I was just kinda making a really lovely joke about the grogs with their alt facts about lrms and poo poo SORRY Nah, I got it! You actually aren't wrong, there are some super insufferable Kerensky''s out there.
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Feb 16, 2017 09:09
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I do need to rename Trump Palin Kerensky, but I don't want to give PGI money.
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Feb 16, 2017 09:24
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Azuth0667 posted:Sounds like we need to find a marketing goon and launch a crowd funding attempt. "MechWarrior game from not I thought the same thing. Sadly a lot of what makes MWO viable is the nostalgia factor they have with the licensing. It's one thing to pilot a recognized battlemech and another to pilot some other 'big rear end robot' that's a lookalike at best. Also funny thing about finding funds, you need money to go look for money. In this case funds to spend on a funding campaign, which is the current paradox
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Feb 16, 2017 10:08
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Real playerstats from the MW:O leaderboards instead from Steam charts: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutreachHPG/comments/5ud26k/actual_player_numbers/ Looks like there is a shitload of players using the stand alone client. Honestly it doesn't look that bad, ~15,000 players played more than 100 games in January. Average of ~105 games per month per player, that's quite a lot.
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Feb 16, 2017 13:04
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TjyvTompa posted:Real playerstats from the MW:O leaderboards instead from Steam charts: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutreachHPG/comments/5ud26k/actual_player_numbers/ a lot more than I would have expected TBH
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Feb 16, 2017 14:14
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TjyvTompa posted:Real playerstats from the MW:O leaderboards instead from Steam charts: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutreachHPG/comments/5ud26k/actual_player_numbers/ That's 15k total not concurrent players. It also shows they actually lost 1/3 of their players in the last 6 months which means it could be on track with what steam said for the year.
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Feb 16, 2017 14:21
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Doesn't PGI pull the "If you logged in within the last year, we count you as a concurrent player" card? I'm pretty sure someone caught them in that before.
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Feb 16, 2017 15:50
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Azuth0667 posted:That's 15k total not concurrent players. It also shows they actually lost 1/3 of their players in the last 6 months which means it could be on track with what steam said for the year. Of course it's not concurrent, it says right there, Active Players. And where do you get the 1/3rd number, you going all Sean Spicer on our asses? Active Players per month went from ~43,000 to ~38,000. Skoll posted:Doesn't PGI pull the "If you logged in within the last year, we count you as a concurrent player" card? I'm pretty sure someone caught them in that before. Who cares anyway, here's a link where you can see people tell Russ he sucks and his ideas are bad, live: https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=%40russ_bullock&src=typd
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Feb 16, 2017 15:54
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TjyvTompa posted:Of course it's not concurrent, it says right there, Active Players. And where do you get the 1/3rd number, you going all Sean Spicer on our asses? Active Players per month went from ~43,000 to ~38,000. I should go spicy on you cause you're a apologist but, I'll refrain for now. Would you like me to put it in pretty graphs so you can understand it?
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Feb 16, 2017 15:56
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Azuth0667 posted:I should go spicy on you cause you're a I'm not a PGI apologist at all, not sure where you get that from. PGI sucks, Russ and Paul are idiots. But I do like to stomp around in my mech and press buttons to make poo poo explode.
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Feb 16, 2017 15:57
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Who gives gently caress about numbers, what kind of awful nerds are you? The only real metric that matters is whether the player base is large enough to quickly and effectively create balanced teams. Based on how badly I've seen the matchmaker making GBS threads itself and making me wait multiple minutes for a match in goddamned solo queue the answer is LOL NOPE. edit: to make it clear I actually enjoy this game, I've gotten kind of good at it, and I really don't regret any of the money I've given PGI. I've gotten enough hours logged just on Steam (and I was around pre-Steam) that the cost:benefit ratio is still way above most of the 60 hour titles I've played and set aside. That said, you're kind of a dumb if you pump money into the game at this point. I'm quickly losing confidence that it will be around in a playable state (as in finding matches, not just whether they cock up the rules again with Ghost Heat 3: Ghost Harder) a year from now. Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 16, 2017 15:58
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^: I'm a nerd in a field that has to take p-values very seriously  .TjyvTompa posted:I'm not a PGI apologist at all, not sure where you get that from. PGI sucks, Russ and Paul are idiots. But I do like to stomp around in my mech and press buttons to make poo poo explode. I get it from you defending them and not at all being skeptical of the poo poo they just pushed through.
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Feb 16, 2017 15:59
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Fuckin' Battletech Nuremberg trials up in here.
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Feb 16, 2017 16:01
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Skoll posted:Fuckin' Battletech Nuremberg trials up in here. So we'll hang Russ, let the rest of the team responsible for lovely decisions go free, and then all kickstart a MWO 2 run by the same guys?
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Feb 16, 2017 16:03
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Cyrano4747 posted:So we'll hang Russ, let the rest of the team responsible for lovely decisions go free, and then all kickstart a MWO 2 run by the same guys? Okay I needed that laugh today  .
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Feb 16, 2017 16:05
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Cyrano4747 posted:So we'll hang Russ and Paul, let the rest of the team responsible for lovely decisions go free, and then all kickstart a MWO 2 run by the same guys? FTFY And essentially yes.
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Feb 16, 2017 16:08
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Cyrano4747 posted:Who gives gently caress about numbers, what kind of awful nerds are you? Maybe the matchmaker has trouble finding other people that are that bad?
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Feb 17, 2017 03:05
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Cyrano4747 posted:
Have not run into this. What region/time? The cool thing about the player base is you quickly learn who is the publord that must be assassinated*. The other players are creeps and it's DOTA at that point. *If you are one of these people yes I am singling you out of crowds intentionally 
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Feb 17, 2017 03:47
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Cyrano4747 posted:So we'll hang Russ, let the rest of the team responsible for lovely decisions go free, and then all kickstart a MWO 2 run by the same guys? And at least exile Paul
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Feb 17, 2017 04:15
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Bobcats posted:Have not run into this. What region/time? This is actually one of the most important things to do beyond standard teamwork in games. Guys like Sustained Eye Contact or the EMP guys will carry teams if you don't immediately gut them as a priority.
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Feb 17, 2017 04:18
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I haven't been on mumble again maybe we should try to have a mwo night soon if it's still dead lately.
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Feb 17, 2017 04:21
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:I haven't been on mumble again maybe we should try to have a mwo night soon if it's still dead lately. There are four of us on right now being idiots with Cataphracts- you too could be losing games with us!
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Feb 17, 2017 05:10
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i want to play but i'm f5ing politics poo poo gimme a sec maybe i'll join...maybe NOT also I don't have a cataphract
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If it makes you feel any better we stopped Catting Phracts and switched to Timbers.
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