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While you make pretty speeches I'm being cut to shreds You feed me to the lions
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shanley 2020 imo
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Aug 6, 2017 18:25
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etalian posted:Also Stalin curb stomping ended their false hope that the USSR would score them a better deal. It still perplexes me that they held out hope for Soviet mediation as long as they did. I mean sure, a drowning man grasps at what straws he can, but even then they should have been able to see how the wind was blowing.
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I mean right up intel reports start coming in of massive troop movements to the border it wasn't unreasonable to assume the soviets didn't want another war
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Aug 6, 2017 18:27
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hey guys, al gore is running in 2020 i would vote for him
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Aug 6, 2017 18:28
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Daenerys comes off as kinda dumb and entitled in the books but the depth of understanding most people have of her character in the show is "yaaaas slay kween" and the show writers are just kind of running with that She is currently losing badly against Cersei but it's more Tyrion's fault
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Office Pig posted:hey guys, al gore is running in 2020 Al Gore gives off a sort of Venom Snake "I've learned my lesson" vibe which is cool but I have no idea what any of his policy stances are besides climate change Honestly an Al Gore presidency making climate change an actual priority would be nice but I dunno if he'd fix anything else Also I'm on my phone rn and my phone's first predictive text suggestion after I type "Al" is "Giordano" so maybe I post itt too much
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loquacius posted:Al Gore gives off a sort of Venom Snake "I've learned my lesson" vibe which is cool but I have no idea what any of his policy stances are besides climate change he's actually come out in favor of single-payer and has been telling the party to do the smart thing and go along with it, futile though it is
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Aug 6, 2017 18:32
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deadgoon posted:shanley 2020 imo Signature healthcare reform: I dunno just have men buy healthcare for every woman they know, that'd solve it enough Of course they can afford it, they're men. Forced suicide if they can't.
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Aug 6, 2017 18:35
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Raskolnikov38 posted:they still realized they lost, they just wanted to lose on their terms up until two cities were vaporized and Manchuria was lost 2020 is going to be the second nuke, hopefully not literally tho
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Al Gore might actually work, still a well known name, established enough that the centrists in theory can't complain, and by the standards of modern Democrats he's a masterful orator.
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Aug 6, 2017 18:36
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Book Daenerys is even worse than in the show in terms of being an obvious idiot but Clinton is closer to being Stannis (who is also even more of a moron in the books)
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Agnosticnixie posted:Book Daenerys is even worse than in the show in terms of being an obvious idiot but Clinton is closer to being Stannis (who is also even more of a moron in the books) I have the opposite opinion of book stannis vs show stannis but I agree that Hillary is absolutely 100% stannis My go-to Bernie comparison is Robb but Renly might work better
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Aug 6, 2017 18:38
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https://twitter.com/emmaogreen/status/894231267725725696 the hillarymen are gonna morph into a religious cult with dread abuela leading lmfao
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Aug 6, 2017 18:39
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Scent of Worf posted:https://twitter.com/emmaogreen/status/894231267725725696 CC will be the first deacon of this new church
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Aug 6, 2017 18:40
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loquacius posted:Al Gore gives off a sort of Venom Snake "I've learned my lesson" vibe which is cool but I have no idea what any of his policy stances are besides climate change A candidate whose stated priority was climate change would get a good long look from me, to be honest.
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Aug 6, 2017 18:40
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reminder the person doing post-election media tours definitely isn't running again
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Office Pig posted:hey guys, al gore is running in 2020 A divorced president? Think of the scandals! The family values crew won't hear of it
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Raskolnikov38 posted:reminder the person doing post-election media tours definitely isn't running again At this point her support is so thin even amongst establishment people I'm not afraid of her running
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Aug 6, 2017 18:47
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Losing the primary would be the final straw to many brains.
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Aug 6, 2017 18:53
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could zuckerburg just pay each and every independent like $500 directly? obv he wouldn't say the cash is quid pro quo for their votes but he could couch/equivocate it somehow, right?
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Aug 6, 2017 18:59
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ThndrShk2k posted:I like how there's so many articles with question headlines that can be simply answered "no" Would Bernie Have Won? 
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loquacius posted:Al Gore gives off a sort of Venom Snake "I've learned my lesson" vibe which is cool but I have no idea what any of his policy stances are besides climate change A president whos serious about climate change would be deeply hated by the democrat establishment because im fairly certain the the only thing that could do much would be a serious of HEAVY carbon taxes and a research/engineering program that would make the manhattan project look like a theatre grant.
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Aug 6, 2017 19:17
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Inescapable Duck posted:Everyone forgets that election turnout was the lowest in years for 2016. Which doesn't really help Hillary's case given Obama won by landslides. Turnout was higher in 2016 than it was in 2012. The graph you saw was made by an idiot who compared the numbers before all the votes were in for the 2016 elections to the total number of votes in past elections.
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Tunicate posted:Turnout was higher in 2016 than it was in 2012. The graph you saw was made by an idiot who compared the numbers before all the votes were in for the 2016 elections to the total number of votes in past elections. Oh, fair enough.
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Aug 6, 2017 19:26
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I still want an answer to the question how we can have an legitimate election when the only two possibly electable candidates were chosen by just around 15% of the voting population. Oh, I'm sorry I misheard. Give me Arby's sauce with that combo, not horsey sauce; I'm not Mike Pence.
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Reverend Dr posted:I still want an answer to the question how we can have an legitimate election when the only two possibly electable candidates were chosen by just around 15% of the voting population. mandatory voting
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Aug 6, 2017 19:32
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Abel Wingnut posted:could zuckerburg just pay each and every independent like $500 directly? obv he wouldn't say the cash is quid pro quo for their votes but he could couch/equivocate it somehow, right? Throw a party at every polling place
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Aug 6, 2017 19:49
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depressing post I came across on DU:quote:Both houses of CA legislature have passed bills allowing the governor to move the 2020 primary from June to March. Each bill specified a different day in March, so the bills need to be conferenced, a date agreed to and then that bill must pass both houses before heading to Gov Brown for signature.
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Aug 6, 2017 20:00
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I'm not sure which is worse: allowing southern states to determine the dem candidate or allowing CA dems to determine the dem candidate.
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As a West Coast bae, moving anything of national significance West of the Mississippi is hella good
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Willa Rogers posted:I'm not sure which is worse: allowing southern states to determine the dem candidate or allowing CA dems to determine the dem candidate. CA is the 2nd most progressive state so strategically you want it to be as early and important as possible. Kamala might benefit to some degree but overall it would be a very good change. She's not exactly the state's hero.
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we need to dramatically shorten our absurdly long election seasons, it's crazy that the primary lasts six months and the campaigning is nearly a full year two months for the primary, two months for the general election imo
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I'm aware that a shorter primary campaign would be a stifling influence on candidates like bernie and other outside-track voices and messages, but trump wouldn't have had the faintest shot of winning if the election was four months long instead of 17 loving months long
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this will never happen because electioneering is a profitable industry now for everyone involved, even at the cost of the country's psychic health
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Aug 6, 2017 20:08
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I am conflicted, because I don't think Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada alone should determine the final three primary contenders left in the race, but imagine the 2008 primary with California providing more "forward momentum" to Clinton :x
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SKULL.GIF posted:we need to dramatically shorten our absurdly long election seasons, it's crazy that the primary lasts six months and the campaigning is nearly a full year I agree. I like the idea of a total of 4 primary dates, if it were possible to make them pretty much equal in number of total delegates. Then again, dems have those stupid superdelegates who tilt the race on their own.
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SKULL.GIF posted:this will never happen because electioneering is a profitable industry now for everyone involved, even at the cost of the country's psychic health it's also not really enforceable while citizens united and pacs exist
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