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GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Windows 2000 was the most solid OS I've ever used. I was sad when it was replaced.

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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

Sasquatch! posted:

subscriptions. Enterprise customers especially aren't going to like that.

:eyepop: Really?

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Genetic Toaster posted:

Was 2000 even that good? I was stuck using ME at the time but I remember 2000 having a shitload of virus attacks and security vulnerabilities.

WTF dude, Win2000 was desktopized NT server while ME was the most bluescreeningest update to 98 in the world. 2000 was waaaaay more secure than ME was.

I Am Frick
Mar 26, 2004

The lesser half
of Frick and Frack
So I just signed up for Insider, and it's telling me that I'm "registered as an Insider, but to get the latest Windows features you need to install Technical Preview."

Clicking the link (linked above) takes me to a 404.

So I guess we know where it'll be when it's made available, which Reddit is suggesting will be at 9 a.m. PDT, in one hour.

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

The Machinima Man posted:

So I just signed up for Insider, and it's telling me that I'm "registered as an Insider, but to get the latest Windows features you need to install Technical Preview."

Clicking the link (linked above) takes me to a 404.

So I guess we know where it'll be when it's made available, which Reddit is suggesting will be at 9 a.m. PDT, in one hour.

It's up now: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-download

I Am Frick
Mar 26, 2004

The lesser half
of Frick and Frack
Yep, just went up in the past 2-3 minutes.

Here are the ISO downloads.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Nintendo Kid posted:

The normal mode of operation if you don't have a touch screen is to just show a start menu, none of the start tile screen stuff at all.
Yesssssssssssssss

IAmKale
Jun 7, 2007

やらないか

Fun Shoe
Have you guys seen any wording to the effect that, if you elect to upgrade to the Windows 10 Technical Preview, you'll need to flatten and reinstall when the retail release debuts? I know with the Windows 8 Preview you had to, but for some reason the few blurbs regarding automatic updates that I've read are leading me to believe that that might not be the case with 10.

It's probably just wishful thinking on my part.

John Capslocke
Jun 5, 2007

Karthe posted:

Have you guys seen any wording to the effect that, if you elect to upgrade to the Windows 10 Technical Preview, you'll need to flatten and reinstall when the retail release debuts? I know with the Windows 8 Preview you had to, but for some reason the few blurbs regarding automatic updates that I've read are leading me to believe that that might not be the case with 10.

It's probably just wishful thinking on my part.
It's probably best to assume you will have to do a full install for final release.



Huzzah, no tiles in my Start Menu™

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams
I'm dying to know the Build Number for this (which, best I can tell, you can get by just opening a cmd prompt?).

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
<img src="https://forumimages.somethingawful.com/images/newbie.gif" border=0>

FISHMANPET posted:

I'm dying to know the Build Number for this (which, best I can tell, you can get by just opening a cmd prompt?).
6.4.9841

John Capslocke
Jun 5, 2007

FISHMANPET posted:

I'm dying to know the Build Number for this (which, best I can tell, you can get by just opening a cmd prompt?).

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.4.9841]
(c) 2014 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

(holy poo poo i could copy and paste from command prompt)

vvvv Yeah i know, but you can just highlight it and ctrl+c like every other terminal has been doing for the last 20 years.

John Capslocke fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Oct 1, 2014

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

37th Chamber posted:

(holy poo poo i could copy and paste from command prompt)

You could in the old prompt if you used the mouse. Right-click -> Mark, highlight, right-click. :eng101:

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

isndl posted:

You could in the old prompt if you used the mouse. Right-click -> Mark, highlight, right-click. :eng101:

Well here we go. This happens every time a new version is released, people think a thing is a new feature when in fact it's an old feature. Let the games begin.

E: big prize for the first person to realize that tiles update.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

37th Chamber posted:



Huzzah, no tiles in my Start Menu™
Oh god, look at the File Explorer icon, they're going to adopt the hideous Office 2014 style of icons.

agentxavier
Mar 4, 2006
Oops
I have a question for windows 10 tech preview users. If you have 2 monitors, 1 on the left and 1 on the right, are you able to snap to the right of the left monitor and to the left of the right monitor or are you still limited to snapping to the left side of the left monitor and the right side of the right monitor?

tk
Dec 10, 2003

Nap Ghost

agentxavier posted:

I have a question for windows 10 tech preview users. If you have 2 monitors, 1 on the left and 1 on the right, are you able to snap to the right of the left monitor and to the left of the right monitor or are you still limited to snapping to the left side of the left monitor and the right side of the right monitor?

You've always* been able to snap between the monitors with Windows Key + Arrows, just not with the mouse.

*Maybe not since 7, since I don't have a machine here to verify, but you certainly can on 8.1.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

tk posted:

You've always* been able to snap between the monitors with Windows Key + Arrows, just not with the mouse.

*Maybe not since 7, since I don't have a machine here to verify, but you certainly can on 8.1.

That's been a feature since Vista. I've blown so many minds showing people that trick.

Newf
Feb 14, 2006
I appreciate hacky sack on a much deeper level than you.

tk posted:

You've always* been able to snap between the monitors with Windows Key + Arrows, just not with the mouse.

*Maybe not since 7, since I don't have a machine here to verify, but you certainly can on 8.1.

Haha. I just learned that you can 'snap' with the mouse (also the word snap).

also, windows key+shift+left/right moves the window to the same place on the next monitor, and windows+shift+up stretches the window to fill the current monitor vertically.

John Capslocke
Jun 5, 2007
Impressions so far:

- Native old-school start menu is appreciated I guess.
- Virtual desktops are a nice addition, it'll be nice if they ever give it more power though (labels, ability to assign backgrounds to specific desktops, keyboard shortcuts)
- Quarter snapping is nice.

I can't remember/find anything else that was suppose to be new in the preview. I know it's going to be evolving as time goes on, but as of right now its barely worthy of the title Windows 8.1 Update 2, let alone a whole new operating system.

John Capslocke fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Oct 1, 2014

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?
Bah, I wish I could get the preview running on VMware Workstation 10, which is the latest that my school gives us. Unfortunately you have to update to 11 to get Windows 10! :argh:

John Capslocke
Jun 5, 2007

hooah posted:

Bah, I wish I could get the preview running on VMware Workstation 10, which is the latest that my school gives us. Unfortunately you have to update to 11 to get Windows 10! :argh:

I am running it in 10.0.3, set as a Windows 8.1 OS, works fine.

redstormpopcorn
Jun 10, 2007
Aurora Master
I've heard it works on VirtualBox pretty well if you set the OS Version to Win 8.1 when you create the VM. Won't get to try it for a couple hours, but I can post when I spin it up.

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction
Also works fine in Hyper-V (which comes with Windows, if you don't want to install a hypervisor just for this preview). I didn't do anything special, just pointed the VM at the ISO and let it go. Native vhd boot presumably works as well, but I haven't tested.

capitalcomma
Sep 9, 2001

A grim bloody fable, with an unhappy bloody end.
Are they making the server edition available for preview as well? I'm reading reports that it is but can't find a download link anywhere.

England Sucks
Sep 19, 2014

by XyloJW
They should have just called it Windows instead of Windows 10.

England Sucks fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Oct 1, 2014

John Capslocke
Jun 5, 2007

capitalpunctuation posted:

Are they making the server edition available for preview as well? I'm reading reports that it is but can't find a download link anywhere.

MSDN has the Enterprise SKU of Tech Preview, no servers.

File Name: en_windows_technical_preview_for_enterprise_x64_dvd_5554079.iso
Languages: English
SHA1: C79E60AE272ADF7455FAE3D923A6D06E8D06A935

File Name: en_windows_technical_preview_for_enterprise_x86_dvd_5554091.iso
Languages: English
SHA1: 968DEBE05779871E7EE71D43589E9369434CC03F

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

37th Chamber posted:

I am running it in 10.0.3, set as a Windows 8.1 OS, works fine.

Interesting. I have 10.0.3 as well, and only have Windows 8 or Windows 8 x64. I tried both, and when I try to power on the machine, I just get a message box saying "Internal error".

On a different note, I'm trying to mess around with Prolog via XSB, and I'm having trouble getting Windows 8.1 to recognize XSB. I added ...\XSB\bin to the PATH variable, but I still have the command prompt telling me it can't find xsb. Any clues?

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost
Trying out the preview with my apps right now:



The item picker has some issues with Awful, but overall everything seems to work fine. You can now actually kinda use it on a desktop or laptop.

The new VLC apps UI actually works really well with the design change. It's not a full featured as the desktop version, but it looks nicer and makes me actually want to use it on a desktop now.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Combat Pretzel posted:

Oh god, look at the File Explorer icon, they're going to adopt the hideous Office 2014 style of icons.

I don't get why it's hideous

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

hifi posted:

I don't get why it's hideous

It's different.

John Capslocke
Jun 5, 2007
Ironically, they've disabled the UI to disable Bing search results, and changed the default permissions of the appropriate registry key so you can't edit it easily.



Literally baked in Bing results even on the Enterprise install by default.

redstormpopcorn
Jun 10, 2007
Aurora Master
I'm pretty sure I disabled the Bing results in the installation process.



:confuoot:

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
.
Taco Defender
Would it be safe to upgrade to play steam games or is it best to just wait? (windows 10)

Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Oct 1, 2014

John Capslocke
Jun 5, 2007

redstormpopcorn posted:

I'm pretty sure I disabled the Bing results in the installation process.



:confuoot:

Hmm, you are right, I (foolishly) hit express during the final wizard, which seems to just give all your information away.

Though, there doesn't seem to be a way to disable Bing suggestions post install.

John Capslocke fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Oct 1, 2014

gariig
Dec 31, 2004
Beaten into submission by my fiance
Pillbug

Tenzarin posted:

Would it be safe to upgrade to play steam games or is it best to just wait? (windows 10)

Sure, why not? If you don't like it you can repave the machine and put your old Windows back on. Personally, I'm going to run it in a VM

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
<img src="https://forumimages.somethingawful.com/images/newbie.gif" border=0>

Thermopyle posted:

It's different.
It's Combat Pretzel. He complains about everything. :)

Steam should work just fine. I'll install it right now to confirm.

edit: Just installed Steam and Dota2. Both running fine.

xylo fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Oct 1, 2014

I Am Frick
Mar 26, 2004

The lesser half
of Frick and Frack
Avast isn't compatible, and that's the only incompatibility I've encountered so far. Even my stupid AverTV card works perfectly.

On that note, what's the current recommendation for free antivirus?

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
The icons still don't look good. :mad:

On some MSDN blog, they mention Secure Execution Environment, with Hyper-V in parentheses. Sounds like we'll finally be able to throw things into a VM sandbox without any explicit fiddling. It kind of implies that there's ways now to integrate app windows from a VM on your local desktop (I think RDP could do that anyway). At least I'd expect something like that for user friendlessness.

There's a lot more text there, too.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/olivnie/archive/2014/10/01/who-really-knows-windows-10-technical-preview.aspx

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Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


tk posted:

You've always* been able to snap between the monitors with Windows Key + Arrows, just not with the mouse.

*Maybe not since 7, since I don't have a machine here to verify, but you certainly can on 8.1.
I can't speak for the person who asked the question, but I've known this, yet I still would like mouse snapping for the "inner" sides of 2 monitors.

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