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Brother Jonathan posted:I was surprised to learn that the original Pullman sleepers of the 19th century were open racks that weren't divided by sex. As uptight as the Victorians were, it is hard to imagine how they endured it. Do you think people in the future who hear about 21 hour flights in just a chair will think we were crazy as well?
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# ? Sep 15, 2013 21:03 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 03:40 |
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This is a plug for an add-on to Train Simulator 2013: AT&N Class 280-157 "Consolidation". It is a Consolidation-type steam locomotive built in 1920 by Lima Locomotive Works. I've played several train simulators that have included steam locomotives, but all of the models have been very simplistic, with no true simulation of how they actually work. This add-on, however, is the first one that I've found that is a full simulation, with every single valve, lever, and switch doing what they would on a real locomotive. It is extremely hard to operate, but very satisfying. For example, here is the starting procedure given in the manual: quote:
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 21:46 |
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It's like one of those crazy DCS flight simulator games. I love it. That said, I don't think I'll ever be able to really get behind train simulator games as long as their graphics are as bad as they are currently. If I weren't a gamer as well as a railfan it might not matter so much to me, but once you're used to games that look as good as Sleeping Dogs and Bioshock Infinite it's hard to play a train simulator with graphics that would be considered dated 5 years ago. I'd rather just go to the model railroad club or film real trains at that point.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 22:09 |
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 04:40 |
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Brother Jonathan posted:This is a plug for an add-on to Train Simulator 2013: AT&N Class 280-157 "Consolidation". It is a Consolidation-type steam locomotive built in 1920 by Lima Locomotive Works. Well, one of us is playing train simulator wrong. quote:1. Start the lubricator. The more the merrier – if you can see any water at all in the indicator sight glass, you're not providing enough lubricant. If everything's gone to plan, your train should be a crater surrounded by fragments of scalding hot metal raining down on people brought out into the street by the sound.
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 06:35 |
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I got a big laugh out of that post, and I really want to submit it to the PYF Quotes thread, but I doubt that anyone outside of this thread would understand it. Drat.
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 08:58 |
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IPCRESS posted:Well, one of us is playing train simulator wrong. You know, I bet they didn't model boiler explosions. Nevermind this isn't like DCS at all.
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 15:23 |
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B4Ctom1 posted:Do you think people in the future who hear about 21 hour flights in just a chair will think we were crazy as well? Probably. I already do.
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 15:35 |
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IPCRESS posted:Well, one of us is playing train simulator wrong. You just made what started out as a bad day at work fantastic. Thank you.
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 15:46 |
Meh, I personally dislike Railsimulator/railworks/trainsimulator 2013 or whatever they are calling it these days. I personally prefer Trainz Railroad Simulator 2012. I just find the platform to be better, especially its route building aspect, and the fact that it has a bunch of freeware, and some really good payware in the form of Jointedrail locomotives. That and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg each time you want a new locomotive. Just my 2 cents. That steam loco definitely looks impressive though with all of those details.
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 23:13 |
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jadebullet posted:Meh, I personally dislike Railsimulator/railworks/trainsimulator 2013 or whatever they are calling it these days. I personally prefer Trainz Railroad Simulator 2012. I just find the platform to be better, especially its route building aspect, and the fact that it has a bunch of freeware, and some really good payware in the form of Jointedrail locomotives. That and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg each time you want a new locomotive. I also like Trainz for the great variety of content, though the cab graphics are way behind Train Simulator. I also prefer the controls in Trainz. It is easier to lap the brakes, for example. For American freight trains, I recently discovered a new simulator called Run 8. It has only been out for a year. The cabs are very detailed, and have working MFDs. The physics simulation is detailed, with each car having its own inertia, and with the pneumatics of the train brake being realistic. The slack is simulated, and it is easy to snap a train in two if the brakes aren't applied properly. It has a multiplayer mode in which people can haul, cut out consists, or run the dispatcher board. Here is a video from a session: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH3yzKALHHg
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# ? Sep 20, 2013 02:59 |
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Brother Jonathan posted:I got a big laugh out of that post, and I really want to submit it to the PYF Quotes thread, but I doubt that anyone outside of this thread would understand it. Drat. There's enough there to understand what he's doing is comically dangerous. Do it anyway.
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# ? Sep 20, 2013 04:26 |
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Brother Jonathan posted:I got a big laugh out of that post, and I really want to submit it to the PYF Quotes thread, but I doubt that anyone outside of this thread would understand it. Drat. Thank you for posting it. That is glorious!
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# ? Sep 20, 2013 08:22 |
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You are not playing train sims right until you get one of these
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# ? Sep 20, 2013 10:01 |
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Brother Jonathan posted:I also like Trainz for the great variety of content, though the cab graphics are way behind Train Simulator. I also prefer the controls in Trainz. It is easier to lap the brakes, for example. Run 8 is pretty sweet. Nothing like sitting for 20 minutes while your brake line pressure builds
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# ? Sep 20, 2013 14:14 |
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Passed all my dispatching exams.... Sounds like there is a strong chance I will be dispatching my old territory I worked. Maybe I can torture all my co-workers from the ranks.
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# ? Sep 20, 2013 15:39 |
Brother Jonathan posted:I also like Trainz for the great variety of content, though the cab graphics are way behind Train Simulator. Not on the jointedrail engines. Several of the newer ones even have a working computer display that will actually show the values of your train just like in real life. Here are some examples, and yes, those cab signals are scripted and work. [img]http://hostthenpost.org/uploads/233f6ebda41f8054c2fca62f96d185ab.jpg[/timg] With trainz, there is a lot of stuff, so there is a definite difference in quality, from the low quality stuff like the N3V/Aurn made built-in content, and rrmods content, to the high quality stuff like jointedrail and uslw. In actual train talk, I moved to King of Prussia, PA near Abrams yard this summer, and I have to say that it is really cool to watch the ex Reading SW1001s that NS has at the yard leading on locals.
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# ? Sep 24, 2013 21:10 |
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Brother Jonathan posted:This is a plug for an add-on to Train Simulator 2013: AT&N Class 280-157 "Consolidation". It is a Consolidation-type steam locomotive built in 1920 by Lima Locomotive Works. I have started up a steam plant (that was fed nuclear steam), and this felt like the same sort of long procedure that you have to do so you don't kill everyone and yourself in a violent steam explosion, so its pretty impressive to thing that people have been doing this for the past.. 150 years?
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 02:50 |
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Crosspost from the Steam thread: Train Simulator 2014 is hitting tomorrow and they have a very nice trailer for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C12aycIepqA
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 23:49 |
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is that the one with $1,000 of DLC?
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 23:59 |
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Are there any simulators / addons that model Amtrak's Pacific Surfliner line?
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 01:05 |
ijustam posted:is that the one with $1,000 of DLC? Yes, yes it is.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 01:12 |
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CharlesM posted:Are there any simulators / addons that model Amtrak's Pacific Surfliner line? They might have to update their color pallet though because that looks a little too drab/UK for Socal.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 01:18 |
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That's cool. I would say Santa Barbara is my favorite place in the world, pretty much. I need to move back there someday.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 01:22 |
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So Orlando is getting close to completion on the Sunrail system. They brought a couple of cars out for showing, my friend got some pics of them. Neat looking cars, hopefully people will actually ride the drat things and ease up some of the congestion around here.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 01:32 |
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Cygni posted:There is a little of the Surfliner in that video. They (the official dudes) are working on it for Train Sim. Still looks like good ol' Microsoft Train Simulator I see.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 02:57 |
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I really don't understand why they can't update the graphics. There are a lot of railfans out there, surely there's enough of a market that if they made a train simulator that was actually *GOOD* enough people would buy it. It doesn't help that they monetize it as if they're selling physical models instead of DLC. Yeah, model railroading is an expensive hobby, but that doesn't mean people are going to invest similar levels of money into a video game that's not even half as interesting or satisfying.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 03:34 |
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They do update the graphics, just... not enough. I imagine it's a budget thing. Upgrading the engine and making a game's worth of assets is costly as all hell. Something like a CoD costs like $50 million to make sans marketing and I'm betting most of that goes to art assets. I've played some train sims occasionally and besides looking kinda subpar they also tend to run badly. Train Simulator might be an exception to this, I'm looking at you, Trainz.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 09:41 |
Elukka posted:Train Simulator might be an exception to this, I'm looking at you, Trainz. I dunno man, Trainz can look pretty good. And of course this beautiful piece of content. Plus, unlike Railsimulator, TRS has proper AI. As for running poorly, I have had that with all simulators. The problem is that you need so many scenery assets to make things look really good. That being said, I super detail my stuff and still maintain 20fps.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 13:46 |
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Last time I played around with Trainz (some years back, granted), there were some really pretty screenshots around too, but getting anything to work involved immense amounts of fiddling and tracking down missing dependencies. And in the rare case the downloader could find the hundreds of dependencies they wanted me to pay a monthly fee if I wanted to download it all without hitting a limit and at more than 10-100 kB/s. I think I got a custom route that had actual scenarios working a grand total of one times. Also, yeah, everything ran at 20 fps if I was lucky and that's pretty bad. Has it changed? I just wanna drive trains around with some actual playable content in the form of missions and goals. God, give me a sandbox mode where you make money or get promotions to better trains or something. I've had more fun with Euro Truck Sim than train games and I have zero interest in trucks, it's just that it has gameplay - something to actually do with the vehicles being simulated.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 13:59 |
It is complicated. It is kinda the same, but kinda different. TRS12 has a Mojave Sub route that includes Tehachepi Loop, that was built by Jointedrail, and includes scenarios and locomotives and rolling stock that are pretty good. There is also the Reading and Northern Route on jointedrail, and the associated content for that made by jointedrail which is good, and also freeware. You have to set up your own session for that one though. The Download station still has the 100mb daily limit on downloads if you don't buy a First Class Ticket, which is kinda annoying, but it is still cheaper than Railsimulator's $1000 of content. You can also now buy a lifetime subscription to it. The route building itself is what I enjoy myself. It is very simple and relaxing. There are quite a few decent freeware routes out there, though you are right about hunting dependencies being annoying. That being said, this is a good forum to join up if you need to find something. http://trainzforums.com/index.php It is the USLW/Jointedrail forum, and it is pretty laid back and doesn't have the horrible grognards that the main auran forum has. Just avoid Cloakedghosts and RRmods content. It is over priced and pretty crap, and really high in poly so it will affect your framerates really badly. Edit: Sadly, there is no career mode. That would be really fun to have.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 15:27 |
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I gotta say those Trainz shots look pretty decent. I do remember the last time I tried it getting bored with the basic content, going to download other stuff and running into that First Class Ticket crap. That was the point at which I decided to stop playing it. It didn't look that look when I last saw it.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 17:07 |
The DLS stuff is pretty meh, but like I said, it is still cheaper and better than the alternative. I look at it this way. If I played railsimulator, I would be paying much more money for one loco to be used in an inferior sim, where as I pay less money for a FCT and have access to the entire DLS, as well as all of the awesome 3rd party content that is available in places like USLW and Jointedrail. Right now my friends and I all have shortlines where we interchange cars with each other via spreadsheet and it is pretty fun. That is what the Bridgeport Aberdeen and Southern and Bwedwood McCentral are from. You also have my railroad, the Haverford Swedeland and Aberdeen The Cumberland and Potomac And the Sunbury Southern And you also have the Blow, which the guy who is working on that hasn't posted any screens yet, but here is the Sunbury Southern transporting their slug to them, which was built and purchased from the Bwedwood, transported from the Bwed to the Sunbury over the BASR and delivered to the BLOW Over all, it is a pretty good sim, especially if you like making your own layouts. There are some issues, especially since it is still using the same engine that they started with in 1999, but it still holds up pretty well and since Jointedrail started working with N3V, things have greatly improved with the sim. And yes, I keep talking about Jointedrail a lot, but they are pretty much the gold standard in US content at the moment.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 18:14 |
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Ahh just look at all those perfect rails and perfect ties Do any of the sims have MOW operations?
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 06:39 |
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NoWake posted:Ahh just look at all those perfect rails and perfect ties Do any of the sims have MOW operations? Would the game objective include "destory every train control signal cable and associated equipment within a 500 foot radius of job site"? I'm just curious, that's how our MOW department rolls. I'd play that all day to see how it feels on the other side of that coin.
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 17:20 |
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NoWake posted:Ahh just look at all those perfect rails and perfect ties Do any of the sims have MOW operations? Make it so you sit outside a Form B for about 3 hours waiting to get clearance in. Then after that the dispatcher lines your route through the middle of the B order. Then scramble to try to get cleared on the track while puckering your butthole... Or just the grumpy rear end foreman. They need to simulate the grumpy people.
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 17:40 |
Or you could simulate what happened to a Lehigh Valley MOW worker that I knew who sadly recently passed away, and get assurance from his foreman that they were clear to work on a section of track, jack it up on 6 brand new jacks, then run for cover as the Apollo comes screaming past and knocks the heads off each of those new jacks and thankfully doesn't derail.
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 18:35 |
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CharlesM posted:Are there any simulators / addons that model Amtrak's Pacific Surfliner line? Speaking of the Surfliner, Trains magazine featured this Photo of the Day:
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# ? Sep 28, 2013 01:08 |
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So everyone here is playing Pocket Trains, the free goon-made train simulator for iOS and android, right? Just a warning, it's intensely hyper-realistic so if that's not your thing, you might not like the game. ......no I'm kidding, everyone should be playing it because it's free and cute and fun and goon-made.
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# ? Sep 28, 2013 23:04 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 03:40 |
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No Pun Intended posted:You are not playing train sims right until you get one of these Fucknag posted:So Orlando is getting close to completion on the Sunrail system. They brought a couple of cars out for showing, my friend got some pics of them.
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