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Jerkface posted:The shotgun could be good if hitting R1 fires it super fast, could be a good oh poo poo button. Yeah, hit middle mouse and it fires off the shotgun would make it quite useful without you having to transition, only two more weeks until we find out (Unless there's another leak).
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automaticswim posted:Spotted the scrub. IQ kicks rear end and I run as her more often than not, now. I take that to mean you've bowed out of bigboy games and have retreated into T-hunt? 
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Jan 20, 2016 16:02
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Jan 20, 2016 16:36
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Since we didn't get a trap with a live bear in it can we get a Brazilian defender with a trap full of poisonous snakes?
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Jan 20, 2016 17:06
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BadLlama posted:Since we didn't get a trap with a live bear in it can we get a Brazilian defender with a trap full of poisonous snakes? Blowdart gun that temporarily makes you see all player characters as enemies 
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Jan 20, 2016 17:17
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How about an airbag mine that can be used to prank your friends or shoot yourself up through a drop down?
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Jan 20, 2016 17:39
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VulgarandStupid posted:But sledge can do this already. The Mac11 has faster TTL than most ARs and can take an acog. Plus he still gets the hammer which takes out castle doors. Sledge can't blow a hole in a wall from a different room. And before you say "well Ash can do that" she only has 2 breaching rounds. This will presumably have more ammo and also be better at killing people on the other side of the wall.
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Jan 20, 2016 18:04
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Underwhelmed by the new ops. I wonder how big, noisy and obvious the 'welcome mat' will be. Let me guess it'll probably make a beeping sound and get destroyed by a single bullet. And the other ops ability is a shotgun. Wow! 
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Jan 20, 2016 18:16
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If the trap can only be destroyed by explosives it might be good.
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Jan 20, 2016 18:40
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I hope it is really discreet and is well hidden under razor wire. And can be electrified. Yeah, try to grab the hostage and run, good luck going anywhere!
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Jan 20, 2016 19:02
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Hopefully the bear trap can be deployed as a trap instead of just being hyper razor wire. It'd be cool to attach it to a wall and have someone trip it and see it scream across the room at somebody.
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Jan 20, 2016 19:50
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BadLlama posted:If the trap can only be destroyed by explosives it might be good. That is what I was thinking/hoping as well, otherwise it's just kind of a different Kapkan. I like his weapons, I just wish he was more useful on ranked matches. Situationally aware players don't run into those things. At best he's kind of useful just to minorly inconveinence the attackers and make them waste an extra second or two. Smoke's far better at that and his guns are better. I kind of feel that you can always get someone more useful than Kapkan on ranked defense. Also I spent some time trying to play pulse yesterday and that thing is just kind of a pain in the rear end unless you have a very well coordinated team. It only sees through one wall yeah? so is there a comprehensive list/guide anywhere for ranked team compisitions and strategy? Rook + Doc, Castle + mute, etc etc I know are good pairs.
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The Duggler posted:Hopefully the bear trap can be deployed as a trap instead of just being hyper razor wire. I assume the utility of the welcome mat trap is the same as Kapkans, except instead of doorways and windows you get walls, floor and ceiling. End result is that you still kill nobody with them and they are pointless, but they do have to take an additional 1 to 2 seconds to spot it and destroy it.
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THE MACHO MAN posted:That is what I was thinking/hoping as well, otherwise it's just kind of a different Kapkan. I like his weapons, I just wish he was more useful on ranked matches. Situationally aware players don't run into those things. At best he's kind of useful just to minorly inconveinence the attackers and make them waste an extra second or two. Smoke's far better at that and his guns are better. I kind of feel that you can always get someone more useful than Kapkan on ranked defense. I was wondering if putting a kapkan trap on both side of a door would trick anyone. Oh look at this idiot putting his kapkan on this side. Heh, I'll just blow it up and go through this do-BOOM.
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THE MACHO MAN posted:That is what I was thinking/hoping as well, otherwise it's just kind of a different Kapkan. I like his weapons, I just wish he was more useful on ranked matches. Situationally aware players don't run into those things. At best he's kind of useful just to minorly inconveinence the attackers and make them waste an extra second or two. Smoke's far better at that and his guns are better. I kind of feel that you can always get someone more useful than Kapkan on ranked defense. Pulse's device has a range of 10m, doesn't care about walls. I like using it in a few specific spots where you can see someone through a wall and know where to shoot them.
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If you can place it discretely on the ground just inside of windows, it could be useful in stalling attackers for a moment. How often do you take a second to look down and check the floor under the far side of a window before you vault/swing though it? Oops now your leg has a live bear chomping on your ankle. (That's how bear traps work, right?)
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That deployable shield exploit can be used to entirely block off the doors leading into the vault on Bank. Real pain in the rear end when you're out of breaching rounds or grenades.
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Jan 20, 2016 20:17
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Sorry if this is a dumb question but it's a hard one to get Google results on. I assume that any skins I apply to my weapons aren't seen by the opposing team, correct? I can get as garish as I want without overly standing out?
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Jan 20, 2016 20:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZQcl0BDEAw Just another upload from a game with goons. We got slaughtered the first two rounds, but we somehow managed to turn poo poo around. I'll say it's probably thanks to lohli taking the lead and not banzai-running with sledge through the whole map like he usually does. Am I right, lohli? Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3bGEi1R6Zc Also, here you go lohli, forgot about this one. Schnugaf fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Jan 20, 2016 |
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Jan 20, 2016 20:48
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Based on the descriptions, I'm fairly sure the bear trap will just down anyone that walks into them. And they're entirely mechanical, which means no LED, no beeps, not EMPable, and no signal on IQ's gadget. Also I assume the time to change to the underbarrel shotgun is quicker than switching between the SMG11 and 590, as the usage will be largely the same. Mostly hyped to skin that BHP.
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ireladd posted:Sorry if this is a dumb question but it's a hard one to get Google results on. I assume that any skins I apply to my weapons aren't seen by the opposing team, correct? I can get as garish as I want without overly standing out? The skins you apply to your weapons are visible by everyone. Do not be ashamed of your flower skin.
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Hmmm, just had my uplay account temporarily stolen by Russians, I haven't used it with anything uplay associated besides the uplay website and the recent Tom Clancy humble bundle. oh fantastic he deleted my entire friends list! my kinda ape fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jan 20, 2016 |
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Jan 20, 2016 21:51
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It's cool that there's no way to use two factor authentication for uplay.
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ghetto wormhole posted:Hmmm, just had my uplay account temporarily stolen by Russians, I haven't used it with anything uplay associated besides the uplay website and the recent Tom Clancy humble bundle. Congrats on using an old and compromised password. I'm guessing you were able to retrieve your account. Hilariously, Rockstar allowed you to change your account retrieval email without any additional type of authentication. I'm guessing Uplay did a little better.
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VulgarandStupid posted:Congrats on using an old and compromised password. I'm guessing you were able to retrieve your account. Hilariously, Rockstar allowed you to change your account retrieval email without any additional type of authentication. I'm guessing Uplay did a little better. Sorry I don't change my passwords every three months like a good boy My email password is very strong and unique though.Still loving retarded that they don't have two factor auth in TYOOL 2016.
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Speaking of Russians, has anyone playing west coast at night got put in a group full of laggy Russians?
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~Browning HP I could just die~ Holy fuuuuck this is the most fun I've had playing an MP shooter in years. I guess the best complaint I can muster is that playing Sledge feels like you stole the best poo poo out of the team locker and ran ahead of everyone? Anyway console is fun as hell, even if we don't have pixel perfect mouse aiming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JftDZysizqg (only droned up cause I already knew he was in that alcove and wanted to make sure he was still there. risky but worth ittttttt) Hard posted:Personally i like keeping the HUD as light as possible but theres always room for improvement and the OP names in the scoreboard couldn't hurt. As for the map/mode it will be shown in every loading screen don't worry. On PS4: Please give us an option to hide the bottom HUD element with the button prompts-- I've already remapped half of them anyway. (Even better would be full in-game controller remapping, so sprint/melee doesn't have to be tied to lean left/right)  Can't wait for hardcore mode with no HUD at all Also this bug was pretty rad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ScprnWsYvE full bug
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I think this game could easily take over as the top competitive shooter with a few major tweaks. 1) Anti-Cheat: number of cheaters I've seen over 70 hours is high, and I've never seen a ban happen. 2) Replay system : Hackusations have the possibility to turn the community toxic. 3) Headshot rebalancing : full auto spray is rewarded over controlled fire. Hitboxes are also an issue here. 4) Stats Transparency : in game damage stats tell you nothing, same with armor / speed. I would also salivate over the possibility of having dedicated servers but I doubt that will ever happen.
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Jan 21, 2016 00:15
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Dog Fat Man Chaser posted:Non-custom games are already on dedicated servers. Didn't think this was the case with how many laggy players I've encountered, although I suppose that's a side effect of letting people choose their own data center. It fits seen like the laggier you are the greater your advantage is.
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Full auto weapons exist for a reason. The game suitably awards headshots (you die instead of getting downed, you can die to 1-2 hits, etc). Not everything needs to use Counterstrike's "Everything after the first round fired is a joke, headshots only" mechanic, especially if you're trying to make a true tactical shooter.
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Zaodai posted:especially if you're trying to make a true tactical shooter. Is this a joke post?
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Zaodai posted:Full auto weapons exist for a reason. The game suitably awards headshots (you die instead of getting downed, you can die to 1-2 hits, etc). Not everything needs to use Counterstrike's "Everything after the first round fired is a joke, headshots only" mechanic, especially if you're trying to make a true tactical shooter. Burst fire and single fire exist for a reason too, but you'll never see them used in this game. Having a headshot do 90 wouldn't change encounters where recoil drifts your aim from torso up, but it would change wild sprays being rewarded. Also you can't die in 1-2 hits, even the lowest armor is a 4 bullets to kill to the torso I think. Right now headshots feel more like random crits than they do skilled aim. Edit: also instant dead headshots by small caliber weapons from a mile away to the head on someone whose face is covered by ballistic glass makes no sense whatsoever, especially in a tactical shooter. Mr.Citrus fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jan 21, 2016 |
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I don't care about any of these important concerns. Can the Browning HP have a shoulder stock attachment please?
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Mr.Citrus posted:Right now headshots feel more like random crits than they do skilled aim. Yeah, this. The headshots working how they do with this game's damage model make zero sense, and they should be doing like 1.2 times the damage of a normal shot.
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I love the headshot stuff, and I feel like it's one of the unique things about the game that makes me like it. Getting into a 1-1 gunfight in this game where your opponent isn't either off-balance in some way or not facing you is not optimal. The game rewards situational awareness, tactics, planning, and surprise over just gunfighting ability. The headshot stuff enforces this, because if you have a moment to aim at someone you have just as good a chance of killing them as they do you.
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Finally got the game on PC at a discount on Amazon after playing the beta and enjoying it. Now I just have to wait for it to get here because Amazon only discounted the physical copies
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The moment you invoke random crits as a bad thing I can't take you seriously.
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whoknew posted:The game rewards situational awareness, tactics, planning, and surprise over just gunfighting ability. Except instant dead headshots don't reward this at all. If I sneak up on someone and put three rounds in their back and they wild fire hip spay in reaction and get a headshot should they be rewarded for that? For reference, I'm 1.75 kdr so I'm not terrible and that exact situation has happened to me too many times, and it feels like bullshit each time. Orv posted:The moment you invoke random crits as a bad thing I can't take you seriously. Random crits don't work in competitive shooters, see tf2 for example. Mr.Citrus fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Jan 21, 2016 |
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