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Mar 22, 2016 21:39
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OfChristandMen posted:I think it's more of a question of: Because "Each creature you control that's a Wolf or Werewolf gets +1/+1 and has trample" is 13 words.  (Yeah, that's not the actual wording on the card)
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Mar 22, 2016 21:42
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Dungeon Ecology posted:
Cool card, but how many wolves or werewolves are in SoI, not counting the planeswalker? Three or four?
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Mar 22, 2016 21:54
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They haven't spoiled many yet but it's a major draft theme so expect a lot.
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Mar 22, 2016 22:00
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Traditional Games › Magic: The Gathering: Sorry I shitpost in your thread, here's some :13bux:
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Mar 22, 2016 22:07
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Mar 22, 2016 22:07
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:Cool card, but how many wolves or werewolves are in SoI, not counting the planeswalker? Three or four? There is 10 plus Arlin who makes wolf tokens so far. 2 red wolves, 2 red werewolves 3 green wolves, 3 green werewolves Bugsy fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Mar 22, 2016 |
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Mar 22, 2016 22:08
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personally can't wait for the 10-cars gold uncommon cycle they like throwing in sets for limited these days those are always 
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Mar 22, 2016 22:10
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:Cool card, but how many wolves or werewolves are in SoI, not counting the planeswalker? Three or four?
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Mar 22, 2016 22:14
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Bugsy posted:Counting flip sides there is 15 plus Arlin who makes wold tokens so far. The problem is that you have like 3 playable Werewolves so far: Duskwatch Recruiter, Silverfur Partisan, maybe Pack Guardian.
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Mar 22, 2016 22:15
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Bugsy posted:Counting flip sides there is 15 plus Arlin who makes wold tokens so far. I thought Land Tokens were verboten under NWO
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Mar 22, 2016 22:15
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Angry Grimace posted:
A friend of a friend on Facebook is behind RoboRosewater and I was sad to hear that he wants to start filtering out nonsense cards from the AI
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Mar 22, 2016 22:16
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That pic indicates it was made by the oldest/most advanced neural net, which has been putting out cards that are both printable/balanced and much more innovative than most actual WotC cards for a while. The dumber nets produce the fun nonsense like "Carst this card once per turn." Terrible Horse fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Mar 22, 2016 |
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Mar 22, 2016 22:21
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Oh I didn't know the nets were separated into generations like that. Always thought they corresponded to color or card type or something like that.
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Mar 22, 2016 22:28
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Angry Grimace posted:The problem is that you have like 3 playable Werewolves so far: Duskwatch Recruiter, Silverfur Partisan, maybe Pack Guardian.
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Mar 22, 2016 22:28
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sarmhan posted:Breakneck rider is a 3/3 for 3 with a sweet flip. Also we've only seen 5 of the 12 actual werewolves so far. The problem is that Breakneck Rider is a straight-up 3/3 with no abilities if you don't flip it and the flip conditions of Werewolves aren't all that conducive to a constructed environment where your deck is usually carefully constructed to have poo poo to do every turn. I'm not saying we need something as ridiculous as Huntmaster of the Fells or anything, but I'm just a little skeptical.
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Mar 22, 2016 22:32
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Angry Grimace posted:The problem is that Breakneck Rider is a straight-up 3/3 with no abilities if you don't flip it and the flip conditions of Werewolves aren't all that conducive to a constructed environment where your deck is usually carefully constructed to have poo poo to do every turn. I'm not saying we need something as ridiculous as Huntmaster of the Fells or anything, but I'm just a little skeptical. Obviously it's way too early to call constructed viability, it's just a little silly to say 'we've only seen a couple of playable werewolves' when we haven't seen half of them.
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sarmhan posted:If only they printed cards with flash so you could get around that. It's not silly to say "we've only seen a couple of playable werewolves so far" because the number of them we've seen so far is just a factual statement and has nothing to do with whether more good ones will be spoiled.
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Still not sure what to think of this one, a four-mana 4/"5" flier with haste seems strong but as long as the opponent can get a bear through in combat they can keep pace with you. Would have liked to have seen Vigilance on it so that it can also help protect you from its downside, but that wouldn't really fit the rest of the card. It's probably good, I just have a stronger bias against cards that hurt you than I should. Are there still enough 1-2 CMC red creatures out there for a RDW list that tops out with Sin Prodder on 3 and a couple of these on 4?
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Angry Grimace posted:It's not silly to say "we've only seen a couple of playable werewolves so far" because the number of them we've seen so far is just a factual statement and has nothing to do with whether more good ones will be spoiled. "The problem is that you have like 3 playable Werewolves so far: Duskwatch Recruiter, Silverfur Partisan, maybe Pack Guardian." It's not a problem to only have 3 if you've only seen less than half of them. That's actually pretty good. And I disagree on breakneck rider, It's actually an efficient creature in a post-khans world. Sarmhan fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Mar 22, 2016 |
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Mar 22, 2016 23:07
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Angry Grimace posted:It's not silly to say "we've only seen a couple of playable werewolves so far" because the number of them we've seen so far is just a factual statement and has nothing to do with whether more good ones will be spoiled. McMagic parachute account spotted.
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Mar 22, 2016 23:09
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Voyager I posted:McMagic parachute account spotted. ahahaha i havent been here in a while did mcmagic catch the banhammer?
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Mar 22, 2016 23:11
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It's a Lord effect for draft they arent going to be any more constructed playable than.they were last time around. Someone will try to jam them in modern though because of course they will.
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Mar 22, 2016 23:13
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Sigma-X posted:It's a Lord effect for draft they arent going to be any more constructed playable than.they were last time around. Someone will try to jam them in modern though because of course they will. The tribe we've seen the most of looks poised to be at least a contender in the new standard.
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Mar 22, 2016 23:15
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I think the "lords" we've seen so far are much better in constructed than the traditional Grey Ogre + anthem + random keyword design. Something like Thalia's Lieutenant provides instant value when it hits the board, while a design like Silverfur Partisan is somewhat resistant to removal.
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C-Euro posted:Still not sure what to think of this one, a four-mana 4/"5" flier with haste seems strong but as long as the opponent can get a bear through in combat they can keep pace with you. Would have liked to have seen Vigilance on it so that it can also help protect you from its downside, but that wouldn't really fit the rest of the card. The idea is probably to play it in an aggressive deck that will be applying too much pressure for its opponent to go on the counteroffensive and will have gotten enough damage in already that it wins the game either the turn or the turn after it comes out (which isn't an unreasonable bar for a 4 power hasty flyer). Taking double damage is definitely a relevant downside if the board state is anywhere near parity, though.
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Mar 22, 2016 23:21
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Dungeon Ecology posted:ahahaha i havent been here in a while did mcmagic catch the banhammer? No, he's just pointing out that that sounded like a mcmagic nonironic shitpost
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Mar 22, 2016 23:29
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sarmhan posted:If only they printed cards with flash so you could get around that. This confirms my hypothesis that werewolves should be blue, the color of instants and change. The only card with flash in standard that an RG deck can use is Vile Redeemer. Lottery of Babylon fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Mar 22, 2016 |
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Mar 22, 2016 23:52
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C-Euro posted:Still not sure what to think of this one, a four-mana 4/"5" flier with haste seems strong but as long as the opponent can get a bear through in combat they can keep pace with you. Would have liked to have seen Vigilance on it so that it can also help protect you from its downside, but that wouldn't really fit the rest of the card. Lots of okay 1 drops. a 2/1 for 1, a 1/1 werewolf with haste that becomes a 2/2 with menace when it flips, Zurgo is still in standard, Goblin Glorychaser is still legal.
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Mar 22, 2016 23:53
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Lottery of Babylon posted:This confirms my hypothesis that werewolves should be blue, the color of instants and change. And that one we just saw. That, you know, pumps Wolves?
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Mar 22, 2016 23:57
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There's also the wolf with flash that makes wolf tokens! With some investigation we might find a connection here.
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Mar 22, 2016 23:59
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Any card with Madness can be cast at instant speed if you have an instant-speed discard outlet.
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Some Numbers posted:And that one we just saw. That, you know, pumps Wolves? Tribal Glorious Anthem probably isn't where you want to be in constructed unless the tribe is incredible, which it so far doesn't seem to be. This could change, obviously, but the incentive to make a werewolf deck right now is less "I think it's gonna be a strong deck" and more "I like werewolves, gently caress you". Which is a healthier approach, if not one that's gonna win any tournaments.
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Dungeon Ecology posted:ahahaha i havent been here in a while did mcmagic catch the banhammer? No, because God doesn't exiat
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Mar 23, 2016 00:20
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Lottery of Babylon posted:This confirms my hypothesis that werewolves should be blue, the color of instants and change. There's a 2GG Wolf Spirit that lets you discard a land to have it come into play with a 2/2 wolf that has Flash and also also the Wolf Anthem has Flash. I'm skeptical a 3 mana tribal anthem is actually worth putting in a constructed deck though.
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80s James Hetfield posted:No, because God doesn't exiat Amergin posting in D&D to this very day is more of a proof that Nietschze was right.
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Everblight posted:Amergin posting in D&D to this very day is more of a proof that Nietschze was right. Amergin copies and pastes responses from D&D threads to right-wing forums then copies those responses in D&D posts. That's been his whole shtick for years.
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mcmagic posted:Where on Long Island are you? The event is at Brothers Grim in Selden. That's Eastern Long Island. 
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When was the last time a tribe was constructed viable? I think it was ISD + RTR Naya humans which was really just a slightly worse version of naya blitz.
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