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I breathed a sigh of relief during a moment in FFXV that there were no useless QTEs to interrupt the awesome cinematic during the first major "boss fight" but was immediately hit with a "MASH CIRCLE TO BE HELPED UP FROM FALLING" QTE almost immediately afterward
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Breetai posted:The thing dragging every single Telltale game down is that there isn't one tenth of as much actual consequences from your choices as in Alpha Protocol. I feel like with Tales from the Borderlands, they realized (for the most part) that they don't know how to make your choices matter, so most of your choices are just "How do you wanna kill these fuckers? I don't care, go hog wild"
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Dec 15, 2016 18:23
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QTEs are the worst, they just feel like Simon Says at this point. Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2 is basically made of them and it's very boring after about 20 minutes. Bayonetta has a worse sin - loading screens that go almost directly into a QTE. If you fail, it counts against score.
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Dec 15, 2016 18:32
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Breetai posted:I mean, Scarlet Lake is the other assassin who takes the shot when you're fighting Omen Deng?!?! WHAT. And there's only a few ways to find this out during the game - you can finish the entire thing without even discovering this.
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Dec 15, 2016 20:36
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The most fun way to find it out is to get shot by her then convince her Leland won't leave her flapping around as a loose end so she ices him then have Heck blow her away, whereupon he reveals he knew the whole time and assumed Mike was letting it slide to get in her pants
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Dec 15, 2016 21:08
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spit on my clit posted:I feel like with Tales from the Borderlands, they realized (for the most part) that they don't know how to make your choices matter, so most of your choices are just "How do you wanna kill these fuckers? I don't care, go hog wild" Which is also funny because it does diverge more than most Telltale games.
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Dec 15, 2016 21:33
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Breetai posted:The thing dragging every single Telltale game down is that there isn't one tenth of as much actual consequences from your choices as in Alpha Protocol. I am always sad that nothing I have played of it's type has been as fun as this game was.
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Dec 15, 2016 21:54
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Also loving lol at the endgame note about having SIE 'rescue' you. You steal and encrypt the footage of your 'rescue' and watch it like 147 times in the next few months, and every agency on the planet is gunning to decrypt it so as to see what crucial espionage information is included in it. I'm kinda miffed that at the end of the day if you've been sufficiently aggressive and vengeful enough you can't just sail off with her instead and go full rogue agent/freelance merc.
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Dec 15, 2016 21:55
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Breetai posted:Also loving lol at the endgame note about having SIE 'rescue' you. See I always went G22. For the reason that Leyland has no idea they exist.. Seriously the entire game is so underrated.
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Dec 15, 2016 22:05
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2house2fly posted:The most fun way to find it out is to get shot by her holy poo poo that's cool
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Dec 15, 2016 22:11
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I tried playing Alpha Protocol two weeks ago. God drat that game is janky. Made it an hour and uninstalled. It will forever be like SS13. I'll have fun reading stories about it, but don't have the time to put up with learning its quirks.
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Dec 15, 2016 22:15
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:I tried playing Alpha Protocol two weeks ago. God drat that game is janky. Made it an hour and uninstalled. It works best with a controller, due to it having a very lovely PC port. Also Saudi Arabia is a terrible example of what the game actually is. If you can actually manage to get through that, the game truly shines. I'm usually with you on stuff like SS13 being more fun to read about, but Alpha Protocol is genuinely one of my favorite games to actually play. It's just so rewarding. My first playthrough was at the same time as a friend, and we were both shocked at how vastly different our ending scenarios ended up being, even though the levels are all the same. Your choices ACTUALLY matter in AP.
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Dec 15, 2016 22:28
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2house2fly posted:The most fun way to find it out is to get shot by her THE FFFUCK? Ok that's it, reinstalling AP right now!
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Dec 15, 2016 22:33
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Play it on easy, and use a guide so you dont miss out on intel.
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Dec 15, 2016 23:00
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Play it on easy, and use a guide so you dont miss out on intel. Heck, play through it on new recruit and then have one hell of an amount of fun playing veteran. Deus Ex is one of those games I can't get into no matter how highly praised it is, but AP? I wish I had a few more games like that. That and King of Dragon Pass.
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Dec 15, 2016 23:27
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Alpha Protocol was hard for me to get into until I realized how incredibly busted the pistol chain shot and the stealth power are. Chain shot stops time and grants you perfect accuracy on all of your shots during it. Headshots are either instant kills or massive damage on bosses so you can straight up wipe out an entire room in less than a second or do half of a bosses' health bar and then cover until it recharges. Shadow operative isn't a plus to your stealth skills, it's straight up invisibility. You can literally walk into enemies and they still won't notice you and at max level it lasts for like 20 seconds. basically, the combat and the stealth are both janky yeah, but you can get buttons that are basically cheat codes that let you ignore both.
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Dec 15, 2016 23:57
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Josef bugman posted:Heck, play through it on new recruit and then have one hell of an amount of fun playing veteran. nah, just pick the playstyle you want (stealthy, shooter) for your first run. rookie/veteran should be second playthrough. however, always put at least one point in sabotage so you can emp through hacking/bypassing if you don't wanna invest in it or do any of the minigames.
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Dec 15, 2016 23:59
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I had heard that Chapter 13 of FFXV sucked and my god does it ever loving suck. You don't have any party members, they take away your weapons and gives you a new weapon that sucks and can only kill weak enemies and doesn't hurt strong ones at all. There are also stealth elements which the game really isn't designed for.
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Dec 16, 2016 01:32
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Breetai posted:The thing dragging every single Telltale game down is that there isn't one tenth of as much actual consequences from your choices as in Alpha Protocol. The story in Alpha Protocol is pretty immutable, all that really changes is who shows up where and what the game tells you about it. I love that and it's done really well but it's not really all that different than most post-Walking Dead Telltale games in term of reactivity.
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Rise of the Tomb Raider: Baba Yaga DLC: BOY IT SURE IS loving FUN TO HAVE THE SECOND HALF OF A DUMB AND lovely BOSS FIGHT IN AN ARENA WITH lovely PSYCHEDELIC EFFECTS THAT MAKE IT HARD TO SEE WHERE TO GO AND FALSE TRAILS YOU CAN loving FALL DOWN AND NOT GET OUT OF, THATS A FANTASTIC loving IDEA
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Dec 16, 2016 04:16
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Digirat posted:It's still amazing to me how many games have really important things that are very obviously and awkwardly tied to frame rate. Dishonored 2 launched with mouse sensitivity of all things being inversely proportional to frame rate, and the performance was garbage so almost everyone got to experience the results when the frame rate would randomly drop. Your perspective would suddenly snap past any graphically-demanding direction you turned towards. I just ran into a pretty fun example of this--Tom Clancy's Vegas Shootem' Up No. 2 keys the speed of idle animations to framerate. Plays just fine but all the characters are  incarnate, staring wildly around the room nonstop and fidgeting with their guns at hyperspeed.
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Dec 16, 2016 10:26
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What happens in *sniff* Vegas stays in *sniff* Vegas.
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Guy Mann posted:The story in Alpha Protocol is pretty immutable, all that really changes is who shows up where and what the game tells you about it. I love that and it's done really well but it's not really all that different than most post-Walking Dead Telltale games in term of reactivity. It also determines who you can kill, depending on how you treated people and acted, what ending (of three I think) you can get, how difficulty things get in later levels, the kinds of options available to you, and a whole shitload of different scenes. You can bypass on or two boss battles entirely, or incite a man to attack you because he hates you so loving much. Calling it 'not much different' than telltale games is an insult where the most a telltale game will let you do is choose who to shoot in a cutscene, something that has absolutely zero impact on gameplay.
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Yeah, those Walking Dead Telltale games were so transparent with their 'choices'. You can save person A or B, who will act basically the same before dying off or leaving. You basically just get a different set of VO for the next 5 minutes and then the story kinda merges back with the main railroaded plot. I can understand why there's such a linear plot for them - they have to have the same locations and characters used for everyone's version of the plot, it's just a bit disappointing because they're often hyping the choices being available.
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to be honest in a lot of those situations i do nothing unless the timer resets when it gets to the bottom in which case i make a decision. as far as im aware silence is the default choice so i am actually railroaded more than normal.
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muscles like this! posted:I had heard that Chapter 13 of FFXV sucked and my god does it ever loving suck. You don't have any party members, they take away your weapons and gives you a new weapon that sucks and can only kill weak enemies and doesn't hurt strong ones at all. There are also stealth elements which the game really isn't designed for. I am doing literally everything you can possibly do in the open world and then shelving it until they fix this. I want to finish the game on a high note and just don't feel like that will be possible after all the complaints about the last few chapters.
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payday 2 put in a chainsaw and it does as much damage as smacking cops with a bundle of cash
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Played Final Fantasy Type-0 for the first time in months, I guess I got burned out trying to do all the requests on a second playthrough. I tried to pick up where I left off, and then said "gently caress it", and stopped doing requests. Also it takes forever to level up the fourteen characters your given, and the game wants them all to be leveled up.
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Playing through Dishonored 2 right now, and both it and DXMD have some of the best stealth-based gameplay in the industry. Everything feels silky-smooth and responsive, and there are a billion ways you can complete each level (the bank and clockwork mansion from each game being the best levels I have played in possibly a decade). Which makes me infuriated that both games appear to have cast marionettes as their voice actors. I get the writing's subpar, and I even give DXMD a pass given that the games wouldn't be Deus Ex without janky speech. But when Elias Toufexis is the only VA doing even basic voice inflection in either game, you have a serious problem.
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Dec 16, 2016 21:08
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Kruller posted:It works best with a controller, People always say this poo poo about a variety of PC games but it never works for me, except for Racing games I guess. I recently played the Darksiders action game series with PC + Mouse and everybody on forums I read were like "OMG PLAY THIS WITH A CONTRLLER BLA BLA" and I actually gave it a shot with my PS4 controller. Then I spent like 30 seconds fighting with slow camera controls and lack of keyboard shortcuts and not being able to quickly aim at things. Even in an action / adventure game the mouse makes it so easy to center your view instantly on what you want, or enemies or objects you need to get to. Controllers will always be clunky beasts that I will suck at using. I guess that's what I get for growing up without consoles and just PC games though. And don't get me started on FPS games on Console. I recently started the Uncharted series and I can't for the life of me get through sections on Normal without intense effort to shoot the baddies. It is soo hard to aim and it doesn't seem like the game has any aim assist. TheShrike has a new favorite as of 21:19 on Dec 16, 2016 |
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Boofchicken posted:I am doing literally everything you can possibly do in the open world and then shelving it until they fix this. I want to finish the game on a high note and just don't feel like that will be possible after all the complaints about the last few chapters. Doing the same - I feel like if I play beyond the 9th chapter right now then I'm going to end up hating the game. I guess I'm willing to wait for it.
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muscles like this! posted:I had heard that Chapter 13 of FFXV sucked and my god does it ever loving suck. You don't have any party members, they take away your weapons and gives you a new weapon that sucks and can only kill weak enemies and doesn't hurt strong ones at all. There are also stealth elements which the game really isn't designed for. I kept hearing this and thought "Well how bad can it actually suck". I just played it and let me tell you boy howdy does it ever loving suck. People are not exaggerating at all. XV started strong but after beating it I think it's my second least favorite mainline FF after XIII. The combat is pretty shallow, 85% of the stuff you can do at the end is already present at the beginning. I hear the combat compared to Kingdom Hearts a lot but contemporary Kingdom Hearts games are much deeper. There's probably more worldbuilding in the first 5 hours of FF X or XII than the entirety of XV. It's supposed to be focused on the main 4 characters but I don't really know anything about their backstories or motivation, apparently that's all in movies that don't come with the game. The entire "Small kingdom being invaded by a giant evil empire" plot turns out to be a red herring, more or less. The world feels a lot emptier than, say, XII or the Xenoblade games. I'm kind of annoyed that they're adding story content who knows how long after launch because the odds of me playing a meh JRPG again are pretty drat low.
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After being disappointed with the game I rewatched the Lego Movie and realised just why the cutscenes are so lifeless despite being taken directly from the film - they aren't directly from the film. They are remade, but with no background music whatsoever so all you have is the dialog, and without the music to add emotional context the dialog just falls flat. Even certain scenes with a lot of people - in hte movie you hear Emmett greeting the city, but at the same time you hear all his neighbours saying the exact same thing to show how in sync the city is - in the game you hear Emmett, and maybe 2 other people and it's staggered so it seems like just 3 weirdos. Similarly with the "Everything is Awesome" sequences - they only work due to escalation - first Emmett listening to it in his car, then the entire street full of cars singing it, then the construction site singing it while working, building to a ludicrous climax with dancing bulldozers and diggers do-se-doing with each other. In the game you get a muted clip of the bulldozers and that's it. No build up. It's really poorly presented. Compare to Lego City Undercover - a dumber, much more basic story but with some amusing twists that are fairly well presented despite the bad jokes and weird camera angles/closeups.
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Chapter 13 is a metaphor in how in the series of Final Fantasy the 13th one sucked.
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I'm completely stuck on the boss in Portal Stories: Mel. It has a time limit and the characters repeat the same dialogue every time. It's driving me mad so much I have to play it muted.
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Leal posted:Chapter 13 is a metaphor in how in the series of Final Fantasy the 13th one sucked. 13 was a thoroughly okay battle system dragged down by every other decision in the game. I went in having a decent idea what to do and was reasonably thorough with what little exploration there was and it still took me 18 hours to get to the point where I could freely choose my party from the 6 characters. Even then there's really only two viable configurations and the one that uses the shittier characters seems like it's just better. Also a 1-2 hour level that has kalxons going loving constantly. Fighting the higher end mutants in call of pripyat is nowhere near as fun as fighting enemies that shoot you, burers (gravity controlling dwarves) especially. They can try to yank your gun out of your hand, but they'll fail if your stamina isn't already low. The problem is one yank is enough to bottom out your stamina and they'll keep trying as long as they have LoS. They're pretty tough as well. Thankfully they're quite rare.
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Gitro posted:13 was a thoroughly okay battle system dragged down by every other decision in the game. I went in having a decent idea what to do and was reasonably thorough with what little exploration there was and it still took me 18 hours to get to the point where I could freely choose my party from the 6 characters. Even then there's really only two viable configurations and the one that uses the shittier characters seems like it's just better. Also a 1-2 hour level that has kalxons going loving constantly. But yeah the rest of the game tends to be a mess, I love the art design though. The only major difference between characters is attack speed and style, and their super moves. Even then the only one that really matters is Vanille's broken as gently caress death super which can kill all but like three or four things in the game instantly. I just used Lightning, Snow and Sazh forever once the game actually let me choose my party. Which, yeah, is a huge problem. When it first came out people said poo poo like "Give it 20 hours, it gets good then!" Because the game is basically a super linear 20 hour long intro where you can't go backwards half the time and you have no control over your party. FFX was never that bad at its worst, and until then it had been the most linear of the FF games.
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Nuebot posted:I really liked 13's battle system and feel that a lot of complaints bout it specifically come from people that didn't understand it. A lot of people give poo poo to the auto-battle system claiming it took out strategy, when it didn't really. Once you learned an enemy weakness, the game would target it. If you had to manually input commands, once you learned an enemy's weakness, you would target it. Basically all the game did, was remove the step of manually selecting the commands in favor of giving you more active control over when your guys were attacking, defending or healing as opposed to having to wait until the next turn to react to a big attack the enemy was going to bust out because you just told your healer to cast holy or something and now you have to hope the ATB is fast enough. I found that I really needed two medics if I wanted to be able to out-heal enemies, and since I wanted at least one of each role in my party that meant dumping a bunch of cp into sazh or sticking with the game's favourite garbage trio of lightning/hope/fang. Maybe I was just doing it wrong but it seemed like that was the best way to finish fights. The massive cp cost of the three roles the characters didn't have by the time you hit space australia was like one final gently caress you to party customisation. Also Snow's blitz stops being a grenade and that's loving bullshit.
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Gitro posted:I found that I really needed two medics if I wanted to be able to out-heal enemies, and since I wanted at least one of each role in my party that meant dumping a bunch of cp into sazh or sticking with the game's favourite garbage trio of lightning/hope/fang. Maybe I was just doing it wrong but it seemed like that was the best way to finish fights. The massive cp cost of the three roles the characters didn't have by the time you hit space australia was like one final gently caress you to party customisation. I think I only used one healer and had the others swap to a defensive formation whenever I needed to heal, IIRC going sentinal or whatever buffed healing effects? Something like that. Keeping your dudes buffed is important too. The worst two fights in the game if you didn't know the party system well were easily the Odin fight, because they don't explain poo poo to you and just toss you into a solo battle against a fuckoff boss, which the first time I fought it I thought you had to lose. And the giant airship you fight towards the later half of the game where you dismantle it bit by bit.
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Mad Max: how the hell was it decided that the bad guy should be named "Scrotus?"
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