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Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Augment is basically a way cooler version of auras that only work on certain creatures.

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Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

The real rules question for this set is "What happens if an augment creature gets put onto the battlefield by itself?"

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
Augment is amazing and I'm really sad it isn't an official Simic mechanic.

The Shortest Path posted:

The real rules question for this set is "What happens if an augment creature gets put onto the battlefield by itself?"

They covered that in the rules article. It goes to the graveyard.

Tainen
Jan 23, 2004

Necronomicon
Jan 18, 2004


holy poo poo this is amazing

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Hey guys did you hear that tomorrow they're dropping a masters set with a modern frame Mana Drain and a reprint of Horizon Can--

Holy poo poo the new joke set lets you meld two cards to make a DINOSAUR SHARK?

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Some Numbers posted:

They covered that in the rules article. It goes to the graveyard.

Sounds like a state-based action to me! :v:

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay



I would be unashamed to admit that I would probably play an MTG-inspired 18xx, with dinosaurs.

mossyfisk
Nov 8, 2010

FF0000

810.8b If a player concedes, his or her team leaves the game immediately. That team loses the game.

Something to bear in mind.

I just want to see how many times I can resolve that spell in a single game.

80s James Hetfield
Jan 20, 2004

METAL UP YOUR ASS
Will the novelty of this seat wear off by the 3rd or 4th time you draft it?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Unless I'm missing something, Better than One seems like mostly downside TBH. You now have two boards to defend and take twice as much hurt from "each opponent suffers $badthing," and benefit basically only from double card draw. You can't augment eachother's creatures (probably?) and your steamflogger boss doesn't help his riggers. :v:

mossyfisk
Nov 8, 2010

FF0000

80s James Hetfield posted:

Will the novelty of this seat wear off by the 3rd or 4th time you draft it?

Yes.

You meant Ixalan, right?

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Some Numbers posted:

Augment is amazing and I'm really sad it isn't an official Simic mechanic.


They covered that in the rules article. It goes to the graveyard.

Except if the host was killed in response to augment, then it never leaves your hand. Not sure why, except they just say so, probably because it's more fun to not get 2 for 1'd trying to play these.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



Pac-Manioc Root posted:

Unless I'm missing something, Better than One seems like mostly downside TBH. You now have two boards to defend and take twice as much hurt from "each opponent suffers $badthing," and benefit basically only from double card draw. You can't augment eachother's creatures (probably?) and your steamflogger boss doesn't help his riggers. :v:

double card draw is good

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Pac-Manioc Root posted:

Unless I'm missing something, Better than One seems like mostly downside TBH. You now have two boards to defend and take twice as much hurt from "each opponent suffers $badthing," and benefit basically only from double card draw. You can't augment eachother's creatures (probably?) and your steamflogger boss doesn't help his riggers. :v:

Your teammate gets a draw step during their turn.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Don't you get double land drops as well? There is some 2HG awkwardness but it seems pretty strong for a 2 mana card.

It seems like a weird set to draft because there are 2 cards in every pack that you can't put in your deck and there's a lot of cards that don't really do much or which are situational like the Augments. You might have a lot of trouble getting enough playables.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Elyv posted:

double card draw is good

It is very good, but IMO not worth having to defend two boards that will both likely be at best half as developed as your opponent's.

But it is fun and funny, in this, the joke set.

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

little munchkin posted:

it's a real card in Eternal

Specifically:

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



Pac-Manioc Root posted:

It is very good, but IMO not worth having to defend two boards that will both likely be at best half as developed as your opponent's.

But it is fun and funny, in this, the joke set.

I mean, you could just give them half your deck and nothing else. If they die quickly, no big deal. If they don't, then you'll pull ahead real fast

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

Your teammate will be very uswful in subgames.

mossyfisk
Nov 8, 2010

FF0000

Rigel posted:

Except if the host was killed in response to augment, then it never leaves your hand. Not sure why, except they just say so, probably because it's more fun to not get 2 for 1'd trying to play these.

701.14b Revealing a card doesn’t cause it to leave the zone it’s in.

If the activated ability has no valid target upon resolution, it counters itself and so never moves the card out of your hand.


Pac-Manioc Root posted:

It is very good, but IMO not worth having to defend two boards that will both likely be at best half as developed as your opponent's.

In Two Headed Giant creatures can be blocked by either player, which helps.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

80s James Hetfield posted:

Will the novelty of this seat wear off by the 3rd or 4th time you draft it?

For the judges or the players?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Elyv posted:

I mean, you could just give them half your deck and nothing else. If they die quickly, no big deal. If they don't, then you'll pull ahead real fast

You don't share a life total?

I haven't played any 2HG. Maybe I should.

FreelanceSocialist posted:

For the judges or the players?

The Judge who is gonna be there for our game day is, perhaps appropriately, most fretting Rule Lawyer.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



It says they become your teammate, I didn't realize that meant in the 2HG sense. I guess that makes sense flavorfully

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Don't you get double land drops as well? There is some 2HG awkwardness but it seems pretty strong for a 2 mana card.

It seems like a weird set to draft because there are 2 cards in every pack that you can't put in your deck and there's a lot of cards that don't really do much or which are situational like the Augments. You might have a lot of trouble getting enough playables.

As far as "playables" go, I've noticed that the power level is very, very low. Probably by design, so there may be more playable cards in your pool than you might think. They couldn't make a set this low-powered in black-border.

mossyfisk
Nov 8, 2010

FF0000
Can't wait to see someone give their teammate a pittance of library and lose to them milling out.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
Does Better Than One require a player's consent?

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

Star Man posted:

Does Better Than One require a player's consent?

Effectively, yes. If they don't consent, they can immediately concede.

Sit on my Jace
Sep 9, 2016

Tainen posted:


excuse me?

Okay, the combine mechanic is great and all, but when I first saw this I sort of hoped that host, augment, and combine wouldn't appear on anything in the set to continue the joke from Steamflogger Boss.

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




Anil Dasharez0ne posted:

Okay, the combine mechanic is great and all, but when I first saw this I sort of hoped that host, augment, and combine wouldn't appear on anything in the set to continue the joke from Steamflogger Boss.

I like the way you think.

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:

Tainen posted:


excuse me?


Mistform Ultimus WHAT DID YOU DO?! :stonk:

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
Augments can get onto the battlefield pretty easily with things like elvish piper and then rules lawyer can make them stick around. If this were black border they'd need to cover what the hell happens there but it's silver so

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer

Anil Dasharez0ne posted:

Okay, the combine mechanic is great and all, but when I first saw this I sort of hoped that host, augment, and combine wouldn't appear on anything in the set to continue the joke from Steamflogger Boss.

I also thought this at first, but was disappointed the text was just a rehash of Steamflogger Boss's joke. The actual reason for the mechanic is even better though!

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
https://twitter.com/maro254/status/931225150640463872

anyways the augments are pretty cool cause they're the kind of tactile thing that doesn't really work in the digital space

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Augments are good as heck and I'm going to aggressively draft to be able to drop a half-kitten/half-kitten.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
First Pick is kind of sad :(

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



FreelanceSocialist posted:

First Pick is kind of sad :(

should be called tenth pick

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



I think that's :thejoke: , when you see it wheeled around the table.

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mbt
Aug 13, 2012

dragon enthusiast posted:

https://twitter.com/maro254/status/931225150640463872

anyways the augments are pretty cool cause they're the kind of tactile thing that doesn't really work in the digital space

huh? they could absolutely work, even better than physically because you could make the two cards lock together as one permanent entity instead of awkwardly layed on top

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