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That would be like Geralt turning into a Bond villain. I recommend finding the witcher mutation lab close to Kaer Morhen, Geralt has nothing but some insane brutal memories to share there. Also the big point in the game is how witchers are a dying breed and it's not for no reason. The world is changing and there's no place for witchers in it. What's more important is that witchers understand it and accept it. It's like one of the Kurosawa movies that was about a ronin traveling from town to town looking for odd jobs in a world that is on the brink of being taken over by the discovery of firearms - an outdated job that is just about to become obsolete. I think both Sapkowski's books and games took a lot from those samuari/western movies when it comes to the witcher profession - those guys are still there clinging to every moment where they can prove that they're still useful but it's not for long. Palpek fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Sep 12, 2015 |
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I know Lambert is a bro and everything, but between his "hilarious" bandit story, and his willingness to kill innocent(ish) trolls, it seems to me he's only maybe two pitchfork incidents away from ending up like Cat School guy.
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Sep 12, 2015 18:04
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I'm reluctant to kill trolls because I don't want to act out the fantasy version of the ending of "Of Mice and Men", but to be fair, they do eat people.
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Sep 12, 2015 18:12
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Well, it's not like monsters are going away. If Witchers don't kill them then who will? We don't see groups of solders hunting them down.
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Sep 12, 2015 18:17
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GreenNight posted:Well, it's not like monsters are going away. If Witchers don't kill them then who will? We don't see groups of solders hunting them down. Isn't that exactly what's happening, though? As the world becomes more civilized, developed, and controlled by strong governments, monsters are displaced or killed. It's not like groups of soldiers can't kill monsters, remember during what's essentially the monster hunt/contract tutorial in White Orchard, the Nilfgaardian soldiers actually had killed the female griffin, which is what caused its mate to start terrorizing the area. Witchers are better at monster hunting, obviously. If you're a bunch of miserably poor villagers in Velen, you pool some gold to hire a Witcher to deal with monster problems. Or make diabolical pacts with the local supernatural powers. But asking the army or local lord for help is not going to get you anywhere and in fact you're likely to get hung or burned at the stake. I imagine if you're a village in the heart of Nilfgaard, you just call up the local garrison and they take care of your monsters.
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Sep 12, 2015 18:27
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Other people have been doing most of the monster hunting for a long time, be they mages, hunters, knights, or specialists like the Crinfrid Reavers.
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Sep 12, 2015 18:29
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I need to read the rest of the books. I've only read the first one that was translated, which was a short story collection. I was put off by the bad translation.
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Sep 12, 2015 18:42
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You'll never be able to read the fan translations then. They're way worse. The translation of the second book is far higher quality than the first, if that helps. Then the third is back down again, because it was the first book David French translated.
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Sep 12, 2015 18:43
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Geralt complains multiple times about knights who do a witchers job killing monsters and ruin the market by not taking money for the work. Contrary to the games, there's barely monsters left. Touissant is the only exception.
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Sep 12, 2015 19:24
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Well it's hard to say, there are a few lands that aren't ever talked about. There is no world map.
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Sep 12, 2015 19:39
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GreenNight posted:Well it's hard to say, there are a few lands that aren't ever talked about. There is no world map. There's a "funny" bit in The Last Wish where someone (Foltest, maybe) asks Geralt a common myth about monsters that he wishes he could dispel, and Geralt says "That there are fewer and fewer monsters". Later, in Geralt's internal monologue, he bemoans "there are fewer and fewer monsters". Now, this makes sense because Geralt considers many men to be monsters, which is what he's referring to in the first instance.
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The continent where most of the stories take place makes up 90% of the landmass of this planet, so there's much room for more. Take the southern desert for example and the creatures that Ciri meets there.
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Sep 12, 2015 19:44
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We don't actually know how big this continent is. Humans supposedly originally came from somewhere west, which is now lost. Also that huge eastern desert Ciri ends up in is only full of monsters because there's nothing worth clearing it out over. Whole world used to be like that.
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Right, Avallac'h just says 90%. I understood that the conjuction of the spheres brought humans to the continent...from somewhere else. The first guy to discover magic was one of the people who first set foot on the continent. It's odd that Ciri can understand the knight in the Lady of the Lake, but not the other people in the places where she jumps to?
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I guess Elder Speech and whatever weird proto-Celtic language Galahad was speaking have a lot of cognates.
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Either that, or more likely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO_1dEOkb_U
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Sep 12, 2015 22:02
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I did it, I got all the Gwent cards.
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So do I buy Hearts of Stone, or do I buy the expansion pass?
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Literally Esoteric posted:So do I buy Hearts of Stone, or do I buy the expansion pass? Wait for the expansion pass to be on sale, then buy it?
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As I once promised here are 3 saves for each ending if anybody wants to play through the different epilogues themselves. The saves are just before Ciri teleports to fight the White Frost: That last save is also good for a NG+ if anybody needs one as it has all the top witcher sets crafted and everything in the game done (except for looting every smuggler cache in Skellige because gently caress that). Also I was surprised by the "bad" ending because while Geralt says that Ciri dies - the final ending screen states that actually nobody knows what happened to Ciri as she just hasn't been seen after the White Frost showdown. That's a pretty big sequel hook because they could have easily written something that makes it definite or simply not mention anything at all leaving the matter with how Geralt viewed it where we presume he somehow confirmed that she was dead. The fact that the devs consciously created that final screen in that form opens up a different perspective. Palpek fucked around with this message at 12:00 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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I didn't play gwent during Triss' manor thing, what do?
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Palpek posted:Also I was surprised by the "bad" ending because while Geralt says that Ciri dies - the final ending screen states that actually nobody knows what happened to Ciri as she just hasn't been seen after the White Frost showdown. That's a pretty big sequel hook because they could have easily written something that makes it definite or simply not mention anything at all leaving the matter with how Geralt viewed it where we presume he somehow confirmed that she was dead. The fact that the devs consciously created that final screen in that form opens up a different perspective. Geralt being such a lovely dad that Ciri decides to never come back is even more depressing, in a way.
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The Sharmat posted:Geralt being such a lovely dad that Ciri decides to never come back is even more depressing, in a way. I must say though that the bad epilogue is pretty loving great. That little side plot with the warewolf, the trapped wolf and the wolf cubs that Geralt asks the Warewolf to save (if you choose so) was a really grand thing that added another layer to the story. Then the scene where Geralt holds Ciri's medallion and allows for monsters to come for him was one of my favorite scenes in the entire game, period. Basically CDPR is at its best when writing miserable and tragic stories.
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I'd think the Crones being wrapped up makes it less likely to be a canon for a sequel. But yeah it's a pretty heart wrenching sequence.
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ilifinicus posted:I didn't play gwent during Triss' manor thing, what do? You won't be able to get the Dandelion card. Not a huge deal, unless you're going for the get-all-the-gwent-cards achievement.
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Is it a common sentiment among people to not enjoy the exploration or combat of this game? Seems like a pretty common complaint around here, but having played quite a few open world games and being 15 or so hours into this, I can't really agree that the exploration or combat isn't top notch compared to something like dragon age inquisition, skyrim or the like. I guess there isn't dungeons but you never really get poo poo from dungeons in those games anyways. All your best gear in skyrim is crafted from an anvil, and all your best gear in inquisition is crafted as well.
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Bob NewSCART posted:Is it a common sentiment among people to not enjoy the exploration or combat of this game? Seems like a pretty common complaint around here, but having played quite a few open world games and being 15 or so hours into this, I can't really agree that the exploration or combat isn't top notch compared to something like dragon age inquisition, skyrim or the like. I guess there isn't dungeons but you never really get poo poo from dungeons in those games anyways. All your best gear in skyrim is crafted from an anvil, and all your best gear in inquisition is crafted as well. I found the exploration to be much, much better because you're often stumbling on something that's relevant to world-building or has its own self-contained and interesting plotline. I found DA:I to be incredibly dull by comparison, looking back on it. Witcher 3 does open world right. Maybe the best I've ever played. For what it's worth, I loved RDR for that, too.
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Bob NewSCART posted:Is it a common sentiment among people to not enjoy the exploration or combat of this game? Seems like a pretty common complaint around here, but having played quite a few open world games and being 15 or so hours into this, I can't really agree that the exploration or combat isn't top notch compared to something like dragon age inquisition, skyrim or the like. I guess there isn't dungeons but you never really get poo poo from dungeons in those games anyways. All your best gear in skyrim is crafted from an anvil, and all your best gear in inquisition is crafted as well. I've posted before I think this is the best "open world RPG" ever made, it does a fantastic job of exactly that. The consensus seems to be everyone loves the writing, character interactions, animations, world building stuff. The combat is a bit divisive, personally I think it's decent and mostly fun, I like it better than Inquisition or Skyrim. It's not really comparable to the Souls series, I dunno if I'd recommend W3 as an "action RPG" as that is not its strength. Good (as in Best Ever): writing, world building and immersion, character dialogue and animations. Bad (for some): combat, particularly movement and target lock-on seem to be common complaints. Weird XP/level progression. Ugly: inventory and crafting UI are hot garbage
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Complaints about exploration aren't common, some of them come from reviewers who apparently judged the game based on the prologue which tells a lot about their professionalism. Complaints about combat come up more often though. However both of those things are still better than what Skyrim or Dragon Age:Inquisition did and even most of people complaining agree with that so it's basically theorizing about "what would the game be like if it had better combat like in some games that focus mainly on it and we don't mean Skyrim or Dragon Age".
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They fixed some of the targeting and movement issues and the alternate movement is a good option for a lot of players that weren't feeling the combat movement before. For me it's really the UI that's dragging it down for me. The strength of Witcher combat is the variety of tools at your disposal, but I feel like it's a bit of a chore to actually use them a lot of the time due to how lovely the UI is. I seriously should not have to memorize the icon colors of my most-used alchemy stuff, what the gently caress? Edit: that is, the alchemy items should have icons that indicate their effect, or just give me a drat list. It's a huge pain to have to scroll through your inventory, mouse over each little bottle until you find the ones you want, then swap them into your quickslots or use them. Pellisworth fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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Maybe after TW3's success CDPR will finally have the money to hire some UI designers for Cyberpunk.
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Woah I completely missed out on this Cave of Dreams quest my first run through the game. This poo poo is trippy as gently caress.
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Zaggitz posted:Woah I completely missed out on this Cave of Dreams quest my first run through the game. This poo poo is trippy as gently caress. Planning on doing a full NG+ just because of things like this. So much great stuff in this game. I really hope CD Projeckt can keep this up and not get swallowed by the soullessness that killed Black Isle, Bioware, etc.
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Zaggitz posted:I did it, I got all the Gwent cards. 
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So do noticeboard contracts show up on your map as the question marks? Also, as far as crafting goes, do recipes scale in level with you or something or do I have to find new ones? I just did a quest to find some sick rear end serpentine swords and crafted them up, and I'm wondering if I can craft them again at a higher level or what the system is with that
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Bob NewSCART posted:So do noticeboard contracts show up on your map as the question marks? Also, as far as crafting goes, do recipes scale in level with you or something or do I have to find new ones? I just did a quest to find some sick rear end serpentine swords and crafted them up, and I'm wondering if I can craft them again at a higher level or what the system is with that Recipes output what they have in them, exactly, and don't change. Witcher gear has a few tiers that upgrade into a better level (though the viper swords have no upgrades), but regardless you need to find the diagram for the better gear before you can craft it. Just remember: Blacksmiths for weapons, Armorers for wearable gear. Random drops will scale to your level. Noticeboards are the exclamation marks (usually yellow) on the map. Question marks are just "places of interest" and can be anything from hidden treasure to a place of power--you have to visit it to get more info. Sounds like you're still in White Orchard, so I'd encourage you to investigate everything (the area isn't that big, comparatively).
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I am still in white orchard I believe. So there is no higher tier of these viper swords then? It's weird, I've accepted tons of noticeboard quests but haven't seen any yellow exclamation marks on the map, only question marks for points of interest
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Bob NewSCART posted:I am still in white orchard I believe. So there is no higher tier of these viper swords then? It's weird, I've accepted tons of noticeboard quests but haven't seen any yellow exclamation marks on the map, only question marks for points of interest There aren't many exclamation marks in White Orchard, it's a tiny tutorial area. Usually they are just "encounters" where some NPCs are arguing and you stumble into their disagreement or similar, sometimes leading to larger side quests but often just a bit of world-building dialogue. Nope, no upgrades for the viper swords. The Emerald Dust is the hardest bit, it drops from wraiths and you may find enough to craft them before you leave White Orchard. Gear in this game doesn't have a huge impact; the Viper swords would last you a good while and probably worth crafting, but if you don't you're not missing out much. I've never felt undergeared or seen a post about that on here. If something is loving you up, you aren't using the right tactics or you are underleveled, because enemies a certain level threshhold above you get a skull icon and are artificially difficult to kill. The Witcher gear sets are the best options in the game and aren't very expensive, plus there isn't really anything to spend money on other than crafting gear and alchemy items.
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Bob NewSCART posted:I am still in white orchard I believe. So there is no higher tier of these viper swords then? It's weird, I've accepted tons of noticeboard quests but haven't seen any yellow exclamation marks on the map, only question marks for points of interest White Orchard is basically the tutorial zone so just get your poo poo done (do the side-quests anyway because there are a couple of neat little stories and you want to get a few levels before moving on), kill the griffin and move onto Velen. Viper swords will do for a start, you'll come across some better swords along the way, once you get to about level 10 you start chasing up the other witcher school stuff. The silly thing about the Wolf School stuff from the free DLC is you can't get at them until about halfway through the game, though they're still worth chasing up (not least because that's Geralt's school and they look  ).
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I'm still mostly avoiding the thread because I don't want to accidentally spoiler myself any more than I have done, but I just romanced Triss, and by comparison I can see no reason to pick Yennefer ever. Triss all day.. I loved the scene, I thought it was really well written and I dug it. My only, only complaint about the game so far in general is it feels a LITTLE MMO Theme-Parky at times; Like some things are clearly just standing around waiting for you to turn up. The main plot certainly isn't, it feels really immersive and like you're one part of something else big going on, but a lot of the side content does.
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