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weg posted:So did Putin smell dissent in the air and have Prigozhin do a false flag coup so he could round up any collaborators? one of the many theories being floated for events that seem to defy any rational explanation..
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Jun 28, 2023 21:46
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Tai posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_United_States_Air_Force_aircraft Thats only the Air Force. Not the Army, Navy, Marines, and National Guard units.
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Jun 28, 2023 21:48
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Starsfan posted:one of the many theories being floated for events that seem to defy any rational explanation.. It makes more sense for them to be very tight and working closely together, with Prigozhin doing this rebellious act to see who goes along with him and report it back to Putin. You think he really gives as much of a poo poo about his men as he does the insane amount of money the Russian government is paying him? Probably not.
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Jun 28, 2023 21:50
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weg posted:So did Putin smell dissent in the air and have Prigozhin do a false flag coup so he could round up any collaborators? It'd be one of the first competent things Putin has done in a while
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Jun 28, 2023 21:52
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weg posted:So did Putin smell dissent in the air and have Prigozhin do a false flag coup so he could round up any collaborators? I sincerely doubt Putin is capable of any kind od plotting and scheming anymore.
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Jun 28, 2023 22:02
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Starsfan posted:one of the many theories being floated for events that seem to defy any rational explanation.. “These guys are all loving stupid” is a rational explanation. If you really believe ROSSIYA is a gas station run by mobsters everything we have seen thus far is perfectly rational because what differentiates mobsters is not that they are smart or strategic it is that they are willing to use violence when others are not. Why start a coup and then just give up? You’re stupid and your stupid co-conspirators ditched you. Why didn’t Putin just kill them all? Either he can’t or he’s stupid.
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Jun 28, 2023 22:06
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weg posted:So did Putin smell dissent in the air and have Prigozhin do a false flag coup so he could round up any collaborators? probably prighozin is a major part of the russian propaganda/disinfo/psyop machine and has been for decades, he's been doing way more than running wagner & id assume subterfuge or misdirection over anything else any time he's involved at all
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Jun 28, 2023 22:13
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weg posted:So did Putin smell dissent in the air and have Prigozhin do a false flag coup so he could round up any collaborators? Putin didn't need an elaborate, weird false coup to do anything He could've rounded up the collaborators, and did so previously without an issue, by firing or sidelining them Like every time Putin shits his pants and the country shows signs of falling apart someone comes in with -- Ah the pants making GBS threads false flag to make himself even stronger... Genius...
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Jun 28, 2023 22:19
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I don't think letting 6 helicopters and a plane get blown up by Wagner and fleeing Moscow would be part of the plan, if it existed at all
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Jun 28, 2023 22:21
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throwing away several irreplaceable helicopters as a feint
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Jun 28, 2023 22:22
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Somaen posted:Like every time Putin shits his pants and the country shows signs of falling apart someone comes in with -- Ah the pants making GBS threads false flag to make himself even stronger... Genius... Seriously. No one is playing a 5D chess game, least of all Putin.
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Jun 28, 2023 22:25
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mobby_6kl posted:I don't think letting 6 helicopters and a plane get blown up by Wagner and fleeing Moscow would be part of the plan, if it existed at all I still like the theory that Putin triangulates all his henchmen and when they have a fallout he fucks off until they hash it out then arrests the losers.
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Jun 28, 2023 22:26
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poverty goat posted:throwing away several irreplaceable helicopters as a feint I was googling Russian helicopter production because I'd be surprised if they literally can't make any more but then I remembered that helicopter isn't heli copter, it's actually helico (spiral) pter (wing) and I was so delighted by that recollection I stopped caring
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Jun 28, 2023 22:28
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tiaz posted:I think you'll find that no aircraft restricted to a 200 meter runway gets its full combat effectiveness, and no turbine aircraft (especially military) tolerates lack of spares or maintenance for long. it's cool that they can do it at all, but if you're employing that capability you're losing. Sweden’s entire air doctrine revolves around operating decentralized, using the road with, and with small mobile ground crew - so I think a Swedish fighter designed to operate decentralized, using the road network, and small mobile crews will be able to do that
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Jun 28, 2023 22:31
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poverty goat posted:throwing away several irreplaceable helicopters as a feint
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Jun 28, 2023 22:32
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weg posted:So did Putin smell dissent in the air and have Prigozhin do a false flag coup so he could round up any collaborators? No
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Jun 28, 2023 22:35
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Sashimi posted:Don't forget the IL-22 airborne command center too! The fuselage probably dropped on a daycare or old folks home somewhere, so according to Russian doctrine, Mission Accomplished!
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Jun 28, 2023 22:37
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weg posted:So did Putin smell dissent in the air and have Prigozhin do a false flag coup so he could round up any collaborators? Probably not, but there's never a bad opportunity to purge.
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Jun 28, 2023 22:38
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sebmojo posted:I was googling Russian helicopter production because I'd be surprised if they literally can't make any more but then I remembered that helicopter isn't heli copter, it's actually helico (spiral) pter (wing) and I was so delighted by that recollection I stopped caring bus is short for omnibus car is short for motor carriage boat is short for bouyant automobile
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Jun 28, 2023 22:40
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People spent years doing the stupid "this is actually good for Trump!!" thing so we shouldn't be surprised when it gets applied to another stupid boomer leader that shits his pamps daily
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Jun 28, 2023 22:42
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FirstnameLastname posted:bus is short for omnibus Taking notes
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Jun 28, 2023 22:43
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Sashimi posted:Don't forget the IL-22 airborne command center too! That's fine actually, Russia doesn't have as much stuff to command as it used to, it was redundant
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Jun 28, 2023 22:43
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beer_war posted:Seriously. No one is playing a 5D chess game, least of all Putin.
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Jun 28, 2023 22:45
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FirstnameLastname posted:bus is short for omnibus Car comes from Middle English carre. Boat comes from Middle English boat/bat/boot. The bus thing is correct. sebmojo posted:I was googling Russian helicopter production because I'd be surprised if they literally can't make any more but then I remembered that helicopter isn't heli copter, it's actually helico (spiral) pter (wing) and I was so delighted by that recollection I stopped caring Common misconception, it actually comes from helios(sun) and copt(pre-Islamic Egyptian). No further explanation necessary. Kevin DuBrow fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Jun 28, 2023 |
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Jun 28, 2023 22:45
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Kevin DuBrow posted:Car comes from Middle English carre. sorry, these are folk etymologies. OP was correct.
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Jun 28, 2023 22:48
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Anders posted:Sweden’s entire air doctrine revolves around operating decentralized, using the road with, and with small mobile ground crew - so I think a Swedish fighter designed to operate decentralized, using the road network, and small mobile crews will be able to do that To be clear I don't mean to say the Gripen is a bad aircraft or that it can't perform as designed. I wasn't able to find hard numbers but I would be very surprised to hear that the published 600-800m takeoff distance (which is impressive for a fighter!) is with full fuel, drop tanks, missiles, etc. That isn't to say that capability is useless, but that it isn't directly comparable: the F-16's (and others') published takeoff distance is full load, a "clean" configuration wouldn't take 10kft to get off the ground. I take back "if you're using your STOL capability you're losing", that was a little spicily framed but was meant to refer to NATO doctrine. If F-16s are trying to operate from improvised strips its NATO operators are probably on the back foot because we emphasize defending our (richly appointed, with their 10kft runways and whatnot) airbases. If you're able to do that then making the tradeoff in other areas of the aircraft to achieve STOL capability might not be worth it, like the F-35B throws away a ton of internal volume and fuel capacity to get the fan that enables vertical takeoff in there but accordingly is not desired by the USAF. I dug a little bit but I'm not trying to go hard in the paint against you here and those kinds of second-order details can be tricky to find if they're even public. I did find this video but you can see there's no external stores at all apart from a drop tank.  sebmojo posted:I was googling Russian helicopter production because I'd be surprised if they literally can't make any more but then I remembered that helicopter isn't heli copter, it's actually helico (spiral) pter (wing) and I was so delighted by that recollection I stopped caring I'd be surprised at total inability too but they certainly can't make them anywhere near as fast as they're losing them.
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Jun 28, 2023 22:50
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Gripen dis dick
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Jun 28, 2023 22:53
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Gripens are a non starter mostly because there's 96 active Gripens in Swedens air force and there's just not really any spares to give.
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Jun 28, 2023 22:58
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HonorableTB posted:Gripens are a non starter mostly because there's 96 active Gripens in Swedens air force and there's just not really any spares to give.
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Jun 28, 2023 23:04
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:“These guys are all loving stupid” is a rational explanation.
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Jun 28, 2023 23:04
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the holy poopacy posted:sorry, these are folk etymologies. OP was correct. It is actually an acronym, apparently, since there is absolutely nothing better than messing about in boats it stands for Best Of All Things
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Jun 28, 2023 23:06
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When I found out "taxi cab" was an abbreviation for "taximeter cabriolet" it was the end of my innocence
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Jun 28, 2023 23:12
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Dr. Quarex posted:When I found out "taxi cab" was an abbreviation for "taximeter cabriolet" it was the end of my innocence 
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Jun 28, 2023 23:15
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What's taximeter cabriolet an abbreviation of e: omnitaxippatory encabriolaturement
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Jun 28, 2023 23:16
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HonorableTB posted:Gripens are a non starter mostly because there's 96 active Gripens in Swedens air force and there's just not really any spares to give. They got 95 spares but a Gripen ain't one!
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Jun 28, 2023 23:16
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FirstnameLastname posted:bus is short for omnibus Bike is short for Bichael. I do enjoy how different languages went through the same process of having a cumbersome word for cars and then shortening it down as they became commonplace. English did carriage or carre ,ok. German got Auto from automobil [selfmoving], which admitttedly is the stand-out feature. The Scandinavian languages had the same idea, but shortened it to "bil" instead. That said, I looked through the other language pages on Wikipedia to see what else different languages have come up with. There are a lot of automobiles or short forms (Auto, bil, mobil, and one tomobil), some variants of motorcar/motor, and a few variants of machine. There are just a few I can't place, like Diné and (Irish) Gaelic. Half points to Polish for translating automobil to Samochód [self-going]. (If you want to take a look, I had more luck going to the Italian page and looking at their "other languages" list; their editors seem to have dug up more small language wikis.) Computer viking fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jun 28, 2023 |
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Jun 28, 2023 23:19
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quick! take this remedy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_sAHh9s08
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Jun 28, 2023 23:19
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a condition of any jet donations to ukraine should be mandatory waifu skins and paint jobs from ace combat 7.
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Jun 28, 2023 23:20
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Shakespeare uses 'car' as short for chariot so it is impossible to day what is real or fake
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Jun 28, 2023 23:23
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Tunicate posted:Shakespeare uses 'car' as short for chariot so it is impossible to day what is real or fake carre/car/cart/carriage/chariot are all derivations from the same Latin root (carra) in various languages, so I don't think it really matters. It's not a 1:1 correspondence.
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