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PantsOptional posted:Was Blood of Iax any good? I tried to start it and felt like I couldn’t do it, but that may be because I had just finished Honour and Iron and was going into Ultramarines overdose. It was so boring I kept forgetting i hadnt finished it.
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MMAgCh posted:Apparently! The various Abnett-related omnibuses I own (Eisenhorn, Ravenor, The Founding/Saint/Lost) all have them, but they're 7+ years old. It's a shame if BL decided to drop them, they were fun little reads. Ah dang, this makes me sad too. I enjoyed reading his intro to the Ravenor series omnibus, but neither of the first two ghost omnibuses I have include intros. They were available new, so must be a newer version thing. I also don't like the paper quality of those newer ghost books compared to the used copies of Eisenhorn and Ravenor I bought, which is maybe a weird thing to complain about.
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Mar 6, 2019 19:05
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Another Horus Heresy humble bundle is up.
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Mar 6, 2019 20:34
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Just came here to ask, is it worth the $15? I haven't read any of the Horus Heresy and can't keep it straight what all you guys say is good or not.
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Mar 6, 2019 22:22
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Opentarget posted:Just came here to ask, is it worth the $15? I haven't read any of the Horus Heresy and can't keep it straight what all you guys say is good or not. I haven't kept up to date in years but First Heretic, Betrayer, Know No Fear and Legion are all unsurprisingly good and probably the best four books in the series (Abnett / ADB). You get the starting trilogy which sets the scene for everything so are required even if it goes from good to pretty weak. They've clearly skipped the widely thought awful books (Battle for the Abyss, the two Dark Angels books). There's another 5 or so books I haven't read so no idea about those. I'd say worth it, bit of a surprise that it's missing A Thousand Sons / Prospero Burns, but they're solid picks for what to buy after if you like the series. Fellblade fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Mar 6, 2019 |
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Mar 6, 2019 22:56
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A certain author who I don't want to get into trouble has sort of confirmed that Abnett will be writing the very last Siege book. Haven't read his more recent output, has he gotten better at ending properly? If any ending has to be done right, this would be it.
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Mar 6, 2019 23:13
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Senjuro posted:A certain author who I don't want to get into trouble has sort of confirmed that Abnett will be writing the very last Siege book. Haven't read his more recent output, has he gotten better at ending properly? If any ending has to be done right, this would be it. It turns out “the end” of the series is actually only the beginning of the 40k universe, though?
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Mar 6, 2019 23:16
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Senjuro posted:A certain author who I don't want to get into trouble has sort of confirmed that Abnett will be writing the very last Siege book. Haven't read his more recent output, has he gotten better at ending properly? If any ending has to be done right, this would be it. He closed off Anarch pretty well. Magos was also done well.
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Mar 6, 2019 23:17
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Senjuro posted:A certain author who I don't want to get into trouble has sort of confirmed that Abnett will be writing the very last Siege book. Haven't read his more recent output, has he gotten better at ending properly? If any ending has to be done right, this would be it. "The Emperor of Mankinds meets Horus, a wet leopard growl, ????, the end". I'd preferred ADB but Abnett is fine, too.
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Mar 6, 2019 23:30
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Anarch closed off lots better than usual but it sort of glossed over the big thing that happened like it was a note passed in a classroom.
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Mar 6, 2019 23:31
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Abnett started it, so was there much doubt he would finish it?
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Mar 6, 2019 23:35
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Angry Lobster posted:"The Emperor of Mankinds meets Horus, a wet leopard growl, ????, the end". choler
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Mar 6, 2019 23:37
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Plavski posted:Abnett started it, so was there much doubt he would finish it? I doubted it'd finish.
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Mar 7, 2019 00:14
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:I doubted it'd finish. Same I'd also prefer ADB but Abnett is great. The Chris Wraight guy is good too Looking forward to plantfall in Q1 2020 and hours and emps fighting in q4 2020 or q1 2021
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Mar 7, 2019 05:51
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Waroduce posted:Same Highly optimistic. E: lol the horus heresy apparently only lasted 7 or 8 years and according to my calculations theyve been publishing these books for over seven hundred years
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Mar 7, 2019 06:24
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Biplane posted:Highly optimistic. E: lol the horus heresy apparently only lasted 7 or 8 years and according to my calculations theyve been publishing these books for over seven hundred years If they stick to the planned 8 books it sounds about right.
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Mar 7, 2019 06:30
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Fellblade posted:I haven't kept up to date in years but First Heretic, Betrayer, Know No Fear and Legion are all unsurprisingly good and probably the best four books in the series (Abnett / ADB). To cover the later books Fellblade hasn't read. The First Heretic, Know No Fear, and Betrayer also work as an effective sub-trilogy within the series and are very good. Mark of Calth is also Ok. The short stories seem bad choices to me. They mostly seem to reference stuff from later books so would be a bit opaque if you hadn't read them. The dramas also are short and a bit random, but probably fine. The Primarchs books are (in my opinion) all bad. I haven't come across a single one I thought worth the trouble of reading. I'd say the bundle was a pretty good deal for the novels alone that we recommended between us.
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Mar 8, 2019 15:26
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Deptfordx posted:To cover the later books Fellblade hasn't read. the Jaghatai Khan book is pretty good I think.
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Mar 8, 2019 22:05
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Haven't read it, like I said your mileage may vary. I found the ones I've read a mixture of aggresively mediocre and eye-rollingly bland in different proportions.
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Mar 8, 2019 22:14
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Thanks for all the summaries, I'll probably pick it up then. I am just now finishing the last Humble Bundle so it's kind of convenient anyways. I do have Priests of Mars to read before diving into all of the Heresy books though.
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Mar 8, 2019 22:27
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Biplane posted:the Jaghatai Khan book is pretty good I think. Most of what Chris Wraight does is decent at least.
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Mar 8, 2019 22:49
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Granted I've only read Scars but he deserves a lot of credit for what he did with The White Scars and the Khan.
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Mar 8, 2019 23:35
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wiegieman posted:Most of what Chris Wraight does is decent at least. I put him right up there with ADB and Abnett. Emperor's Legion, Carrion Throne, and Lords of Silence are all top loving notch and also happen to be his latest books showing a marked improvement in what he is putting out. His various Space Wolves books like War of the Fang and Blood of Asaheim are much better than the average bolter porn GW puts out. His HH books about the Scars are decent to good, and his two Primarch novels (Russ and Khan) are probably the best of the admittedly not-great bunch. A lot of his short stories are good too. People sleep on Wraight, but after his last three I fully believe he will be considered one of the greats after he puts some more out. Like I said, I have read just about everything he has put out and you can clearly see a progression in skill over the years.
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Mar 9, 2019 06:28
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Laughing Zealot posted:Granted I've only read Scars but he deserves a lot of credit for what he did with The White Scars and the Khan. I'm not up to date with my White Scars fiction. Have they done anything to make them anything more than Space Mongols on Bikes? Out of all the Legions, they always seemed like the least inspired/interesting.
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Mar 9, 2019 09:03
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Big fan of John French. He has a style and quality level that is a notch above your average BL writer. And Graham McNeill I've loved too. The sad thing is that 40k gets all the good writers and with only a few exceptions, AoS gets the mid grade guys. Hopefully once the heresy ends they will get Abnett, French, et. al writing for Sigmar. It's a fantastic setting just waiting for more good writers.
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As the series goes on the Horus Hersey books keep on getting better. Just finished Heralds of the Siege, and just as the last few books have been well written and generally excellent, so too is this. It's probably the most focused collection of short stories I've read in the Horus Hersey so far - I generally haven't liked the other anthologies over much, but there's a real sense of pathos here that was missing before. I'm excited and dreading the finish in equal measure. Which really is exactly as it should be. Next lies Titandeath and the Buried Dagger, and from there the Siege of Terra awaits. It's been one hell of a ride for sure.
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Plavski posted:The sad thing is that 40k gets all the good writers and with only a few exceptions, AoS gets the mid grade guys. Hopefully once the heresy ends they will get Abnett, French, et. al writing for Sigmar. It's a fantastic setting just waiting for more good writers. Josh Reynolds is pretty solid, found the first Eight Lamentations book very enjoyable to read. Most of the BL AoS writers are also now writing for the upcoming AosRPG which is kinda neat.
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Cooked Auto posted:Josh Reynolds is pretty solid, found the first Eight Lamentations book very enjoyable to read. I've been flitting between AoS and 40k and I'm going through the Reynolds lamentation audio play now and it's amazing the difference between him and some of the other writers like French and Abnett. There's a quality to the dialogue that's just missed. It's really evident going up against other good AoS writers like Andy Clark or even Guymer. I've enjoyed Reynolds - Nagash the Undying King was great - but there is a noticeable quality difference against others.
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Plavski posted:Big fan of John French. He has a style and quality level that is a notch above your average BL writer. And Graham McNeill I've loved too. I like French a lot myself. His Horusian War series is excellent so far and I am eagerly awaiting the 3rd. Honestly it's an Inquisition story I believe is on the same level as Abnett's. His writing isn't quite as good as Abnett's but I've found the story to be as good as Eisenhorn and Ravenor. Slaves to Darkness was an excellent chaos focused HH book. The Iron Rose posted:As the series goes on the Horus Hersey books keep on getting better. Just finished Heralds of the Siege, and just as the last few books have been well written and generally excellent, so too is this. It's probably the most focused collection of short stories I've read in the Horus Hersey so far - I generally haven't liked the other anthologies over much, but there's a real sense of pathos here that was missing before. I'm excited and dreading the finish in equal measure. Which really is exactly as it should be. Next lies Titandeath and the Buried Dagger, and from there the Siege of Terra awaits. It's been one hell of a ride for sure. I agree. Titandeath is 100% the equivalent of bolter porn but for Titans. I liked it quite a bit. Be aware you need to slog through the first 10-15% of the book before it starts to get good. Before that it's a lot of Mechanicum technical and social minutae that is pretty boring to read. I typically like that stuff but it put me off for whatever reason until I get past it.
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Plavski posted:I've been flitting between AoS and 40k and I'm going through the Reynolds lamentation audio play now and it's amazing the difference between him and some of the other writers like French and Abnett. There's a quality to the dialogue that's just missed. It's really evident going up against other good AoS writers like Andy Clark or even Guymer. I've enjoyed Reynolds - Nagash the Undying King was great - but there is a noticeable quality difference against others. Agreed about Josh Reynolds. He's a solid B-Team member that can do a scene right but the dialogue just feels...meh. I'm wondering if he's ever written stage plays or something. The lines Bile and the Dark Elder in the Lukas book give just feel more like they're there to perform before an audience than to make a conversation feel that much more believable between depraved aliens or roided gun-nuts.
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D-Pad posted:I like French a lot myself. His Horusian War series is excellent so far and I am eagerly awaiting the 3rd. Honestly it's an Inquisition story I believe is on the same level as Abnett's. His writing isn't quite as good as Abnett's but I've found the story to be as good as Eisenhorn and Ravenor. Slaves to Darkness was an excellent chaos focused HH book. I took a quick break to read Paulo Coelho's The Alchemist which is beautiful and inspiring and about as far from 40k schlock as you can get so bolter porn for Titans sounds loving perfect. Cracking it open right now!
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The Iron Rose posted:I took a quick break to read Paulo Coelho's The Alchemist which is beautiful and inspiring and about as far from 40k schlock as you can get so bolter porn for Titans sounds loving perfect. Cracking it open right now! The Buried Dagger was excellent so you have another good one after that. If you haven't read Lords of Silence I would highly recommend you read it after The Buried Dagger. That way you get an excellent book about how the Death Guard fell to Nurgle and then an even better (seriously one of my top 3 40k books) book about the current state of the Death Guard in the 41st millennium.
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Azran posted:I'm not up to date with my White Scars fiction. Have they done anything to make them anything more than Space Mongols on Bikes? Out of all the Legions, they always seemed like the least inspired/interesting. It's funny; 'The Last Hunt' is the most recent White Scars novel (it came out like 7-8 months ago), and it almost felt like a step back in the fluff presentation on the Scars. They felt a lot more three dimensional in 'Scars' and 'The Path of Heaven'; I loved that they were the Legion that took a look at the Imperium pre-fall and were like 'Nah, we good, we gonna go over here'. I think there's a whole lot of space for interesting stories about the Scars, especially if they focus on the ton of successors who share their dad's wanderlust while being slightly less bound to their dangerously close to problematic ethnic themes.
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Looking at the new primaris models, I think the Mk X Phobos pattern power armor might be my favourite update they've ever done to the standard marine look. I could take or leave the armored calf-high boots, but they look fine even if I prefer the old style tree trunk legs.
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susan posted:It's funny; 'The Last Hunt' is the most recent White Scars novel (it came out like 7-8 months ago), and it almost felt like a step back in the fluff presentation on the Scars. They felt a lot more three dimensional in 'Scars' and 'The Path of Heaven'; I loved that they were the Legion that took a look at the Imperium pre-fall and were like 'Nah, we good, we gonna go over here'. I think there's a whole lot of space for interesting stories about the Scars, especially if they focus on the ton of successors who share their dad's wanderlust while being slightly less bound to their dangerously close to problematic ethnic themes. I agree with the Scars feeling more alive in those books, but Whatshisname Khan (the loyalist blood brother to this other guy that sided with the lodges in 'Scars') really pissed me off with his stubbornness towards the end of the book. Yeah, dude, I get it, you're pissed off at the atoning White Scars, and yes, they're supposed to stay away from the loyal Legion, roam the galaxy in kill-teams and not annoy you anymore, but Jesus gently caress, you're outnumbered and on the brink of being annihilated, and their sole purpose is die in suicide missions to redeem themselves, so loving use them, you big pissy manbaby. YEESH.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Looking at the new primaris models, I think the Mk X Phobos pattern power armor might be my favourite update they've ever done to the standard marine look. I could take or leave the armored calf-high boots, but they look fine even if I prefer the old style tree trunk legs. I'm entirely on the other end. They're turning the Space Marines into generic sci-fi tacticool poo poo, losing what makes them, and 40k in general, stand out. They're supposed to be space knights.
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Senjuro posted:I'm entirely on the other end. They're turning the Space Marines into generic sci-fi tacticool poo poo, losing what makes them, and 40k in general, stand out. They're supposed to be space knights.  The only thing you have to change is the lower leg and it's just a Marine with better proportions and a divot cut out of the pauldrons for more arm mobility.
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It's more than that. They have enough pouches to make Rob Liefeld blush, there's the grenades on their chest, the new bolt pistols that look a lot more like real guns. Why is designing their armor with more mobility in mind even a thing? 40k always was about style before function, it's what gave it its distinct look. This is the last setting that should be concerned with tactical realism. The fact that Space Marines have giant, impractical pauldrons is a feature, not a bug.
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Seems the young adult novels have been out for a while now and I didn't notice. Has anyone read them yet?
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Senjuro posted:They have enough pouches to make Rob Liefeld blush, This is closer to Liefeld than that, though. Other than that I guess you make a good argument. Older armor variants still have them looking like toys while this definitely comes off as practical. Not this though: Lead Psychiatry fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Mar 11, 2019 |
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