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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Sieg Heil deja vu? Understanding the extreme right's global rise

quote:

Just a few years ago, the idea that the extreme right would come to power in what were regarded as stable liberal democracies would have been dismissed not only by liberals but by progressives.

Yet, in just 8 years, 2010-2018, the world has seen the extreme right move from being outside the corridors of power to the center of power itself.

There is, of course, Donald Trump, but before his surprise electoral victory in November 2016, Viktor Orban had come to power again in Hungary in 2010, this time reincarnated as a man of the hard right instead of the liberal democrat he was in the late nineties; Narendra Modi’s Hindu nationalists achieved a smashing electoral victory in India in 2014; and Rodrigo Duterte’s tough law-and-order line carried him to the presidency of the Philippines in May 2016.

And after Trump, the Alternative fur Deutschland won 94 of the German Bundestag’s 630 seats in the September 2017 elections, the first time the far right has gained a presence in that body, and the anti-immigrant Northern League came to power in alliance with the Five-Star Movement in Italy in the aftermath of the March 2018 elections.

In France, it took an informal electoral alliance of the center right, center, center left, and left to fend off the presidential bid of the National Front’s Marine Le Pen in the electoral runoff of May 2017.

How do we explain this sudden resurgence of the authoritarian right?

First, a few words on the rise of the extreme right in the North.

I don’t like quoting Barack Obama but one must bring up an observation that he recently made in Johannesburg that “challenges to globalization first came from the left but then came more forcefully from the right, as you started seeing populist movements… [that] tapped the unease that was felt by many people…”

We may not like the bearer of these words but Obama was right: the extreme right expropriated the anti-globalization critique from progressives. They ate our lunch.

'New look'

In fact, the extreme right not only took over the independent left’s critique of globalization, it also spoke out more loudly than the left about the European Union’s democratic deficit – with Marine Le Pen opportunistically calling the troika’s disregarding the results of the 2015 Greek referendum that rejected the terms of the latest austerity program a case of “Euro-dictatorship.”

Moreover, as the broad left was paralyzed by the Social Democrats’ continued adherence to the neoliberal ideology that unleashed the financial crisis in Europe and the United States, right-wing parties in Europe gradually deemphasized the anti-tax, anti-big-government, and free-market concerns of their original petit bourgeois base and opportunistically embraced an anti-neoliberal agenda and the welfare state.

The strategy has paid off.

In France, the “new look” bestowed on the National Front by Marine Le Pen, who succeeded her father, the notorious racist Jean-Marie Le Pen, evoked this observation from a French socialist senator: “Left-wing voters are crossing the red line because they think that salvation from their plight is embodied by Madame Le Pen…They say ‘no’ to a world that seems hard, globalized, implacable. These are working-class people, pensioners, office workers who say, ‘We don’t want this capitalism and competition in a world where Europe is losing its leadership.’”

The extreme right has now married these traditionally left-wing concerns to a vicious racist, chauvinistic, and anti-immigrant agenda that is reminiscent of the platform that the fascists and Nazis offered to people during the volatile 1930’s: a defensive program that involves strong state management of the economy but leaving the capitalist mode of production largely intact (along with its class inequalities), though with discriminatory privileges for whole communities based on ethnicity, blood, and race, and with borders sealed to migrants. A welfare state but only for members of the dominant racial and cultural group.

This is a tremendously appealing program that will take all the energy and imagination of the European left to effectively counter.

Counterrevolution in Asia

Turning to Asia, there is also a counterrevolution going.

In India, we have a Hindu right that scored a massive victory in the 2014 elections and aims to consolidate its hegemony in the elections next year. The counterrevolution is a bloody one. Lynching of Muslims, Dalits, and Adivasis, murder or prominent intellectuals, arrest of activists, are now commonplace.

This is perhaps not unexpected since the Prime Minister Narendra Modi was chief minister of the state of Gujarat in 2002, when over a two-month period, some 2000 people, the vast majority of them Muslims, lost their lives in what many regard as a pogrom.

The right controls cyberspace, from which they create false news that trigger anti-Muslim riots, as in the city Muzzafarnagar in 2013, or spread hate speech, like advocating tying Indian author Arundhati Roy to an army jeep as a human shield in the Kashmir. I think it is fair to say that liberal intellectuals and progressive activists in India still have not fully grasped what has happened, much less figure out how to counter it.

But who am I to speak?

In my own country, the Philippines, a serial killer, who has taken over 7000 lives (a figure regarded by many as a gross underestimate) in a little over two years, is head of state, and he is as popular today as when he was elected.

The opposition still has to find a firm footing, with the two main forces being a discredited liberal elite opposition and an equally discredited extreme left.

In the meantime, there appears to be little in the way of President Duterte’s scrapping the liberal democratic constitution and instituting an authoritarian system masquerading as federalism.

There is little to be cheerful about elsewhere.

In Thailand, the military shows no urgency of returning to the barracks because the middle class would rather have them in power than a democracy supported by the lower classes.

In Cambodia, Hun Sen has shed the last vestiges of democracy by unilaterally dissolving the main opposition party.

In Myanmar, the military is carrying out genocide with strong support from the Buddhist majority and the acquiescence of the elected civilian government of Aung San Suu Kyi.

Common features

Looking more closely at some of these countries, where authoritarianism is on the rise, several things become clear.

First of all, there is a rebellion against liberal democracy that is going on, though the nuances are different in the different cases.

In India, the revolt is against the secular character of liberal democracy, against its championing of diversity, and against the protections it accords to the minorities vis a vis the majority.

One might say that what is emerging is a majoritarian regime, that is democratic in the narrow sense of promoting majority rule at the expense of the minority rights and individual liberties, pretty much like Hungarian strongman Viktor Orban’s regime of “illiberal democracy.”

In the Philippines, the insurgency against liberal democracy is a response to the elites’ hijacking of the electoral process to compete with each other while cooperating to perpetuate their class rule and to the failure of the country’s 32 year old liberal democratic system to deliver social and economic reform.

In Thailand, it is against the failure of liberal democracy to preserve the privileges of the minority against a poor majority that is characterized as ignorant and corruptible.

Second, racism, ethnocentrism, and a cultural superiority complex are central drivers of some of these extremist movements.

In India, Europe, and the United States, these movements have adopted the narrative of a fall from some mythical “Golden Age” unspoiled by aliens like Muslims and non-white people in the case of the European right-wing movements, Muslims and Christians in that of Hindu nationalists, and blacks and Hispanics in that of the American right.

Third, the extremist movements in the Asia, while benefiting the elites, enjoy the support of the middle classes.

In India, its most enthusiastic backers are what one observer called “a rising middle class that is hungry for religious assertion and fed up with the socialist, rationalist legacy of Jawaharlal Nehru.”

In Thailand, fearful of the masses of poor rural people mobilized by former Prime Minister Thaksin, the middle class, including most of academia, supports measures that would thwart the rule of the majority and would much rather have a military regime than a genuine one-person, one-vote system.

In the Philippines, people from the middle class are the most avid supporters of President Duterte’s bloody war on drugs, where due process has been thrown out of the window.

As for the North, it is simply a fact that large sectors of the white working class have joined the middle classes as a base for the extremist parties, falling for the right-wing promise of a welfare state, but only for the so-called native population, i.e., whites.

Fourth, in the Philippines and India, there is an eliminationist rationale for the regime’s brutal acts.

In India, Muslims and Christians, are seen as alien grafts into what is seen as the Hindu body politic, and while tactical considerations dictate that for the moment, they must be treated as second class citizens, these communities must be excised, by pogroms or forced displacement, when the opportunity presents itself, as it did in Gujarat in 2002.

In the Philippines, drug users are the equivalent of the Nazi era Jews in President Duterte’s universe. Duterte has all but written off these people out of the human race. Bottom of Form Drug users are consigned outside the borders of “humanity” since their brains have allegedly shrunk to the point that they are no longer in command of their faculties to will and think.

In his speeches justifying the killings “in self-defense” by police, Duterte said that a year of more of the use of “shabu”—the local term for meth or metamphetamine hydrochloride – “would shrink the brain of a person, and therefore he is no longer viable for rehabilitation.” These people are the “living, walking dead” who are “of no use to society anymore.”

What is to be done?

First of all, progressives must squarely face the fact that these movements are either in power or on the threshold of power, and once they get power, through elections or other means, they have no intention of relinquishing it.

If there is one key lesson that these movements have learned from Hitler, who came to power via democratic elections in 1932-33, this is it. Amit Shah, the president of the BJP, has boasted that his party will be in power for the next fifty years.

Second, even as we continually call for respect for human rights, we must at the same time realize that these might have less purchase now among people influenced by leaders who dismiss human rights as a western ideology spread by what BJP ideologues call “sikular libtards.”

Moreover, the times call for a progressive politics that goes beyond calling for a return to the old discredited elite democracy, where equality was purely formal, to one that has as its centerpiece the achievement of genuine economic and social equality, whether one calls this socialism or post-capitalism.

This program must call for stronger state and civil society management of the economy, one that moves it beyond capitalism, with a strong dose of radical income and wealth redistribution, while championing democratic processes, secularism, diversity, and the rights of minorities, including migrants.

Third, while a great many of the middle classes have what we might call, following Gramsci, an ”active consensus” behind authoritarian politics, a great many of the poorer and more marginalized classes either keep the right at arms length or limit their support to passive consensus.

We must focus our counter-mobilization on these sectors, without, however, giving up on the middle class or the white working class for that matter. Also central to this coalition must be racial, ethnic, and cultural minorities.

Fourth, right-wing parties and personalities are strongly misogynist at a time that women’s struggles for their rights are on the ascendant throughout the word. So it is very critical that women in great numbers play a central role in the politics of the anti-fascist movement. Women, when mobilized, are one of the strongest bulwarks against fascism.

Fifth, many progressive and liberal personalities and parties that played key roles in the old liberal democratic political arena have been discredited, along with the liberal democratic system.

Thus while we must construct broad coalitions, it is imperative that new faces, new political formations, and new ideas come to represent the progressive response to fascism.

The youth, one must emphasize, are a central battlefield in this conflict, and we are losing ground among them.

Déjà vu?

Where we are in today is one that is pretty much the same as in the 1930’s, when forces of the extreme right are on the offensive and the fate of progressive democratic politics hangs in the balance.

The last few years have buried Francis Fukuyama’s deterministic idea that liberal democracy was every country’s future, just as before Fukuyama momentous events buried the equally deterministic notion that socialism was the wave of the future.

The future emerges from the clash of movements and ideas, one that is marked by great uncertainty and contingency.

There is no guarantee that our side will prevail, but we will certainly lose unless we resist in a way that combines determination, passion, and wisdom.

(Walden Bello is currently the International Adjunct Professor of Sociology at the State University of New York at Binghamton. A member of the House of Representatives of the Philippines from 2009 to 2015, he made the only recorded resignation on principle in the history of Congress owing to principled differences with the administration of former president Benigno Aquino III. He is the author of 23 books, including the forthcoming The Fall of China? Preventing the Next Crash (London: Zed Books, 2019) and State and Counterrevolution: Explorations into the Global Rise of the Right (Halifax: Fernwood, 2019).

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Slow-Scan Shep
Jul 11, 2001

i say swears online posted:

lmao

my login still works but yeah i haven't posted since about early 2012

i don't remember it being that bad. it was postgarden that was slashie's fiefdom
Even less is known about Postgarden, but the few old Rhizzone posts that mention it are even less flattering. I have no idea when it split off WDDP but the place violently imploded roughly around the same time that WDDP purged itself. It was reformed later at a fraction of it's previous size as Postplace and appears to have dwindled into nothing as the domain doesn't even resolve anymore.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

freckle posted:

that means she's a cop

Ok I completely misremembered it. Fusako Shigenobu founded the JRA, but went abroad to establish international branches according to world revolutionary doctrine. Almost as soon as she left Japan she split with the Japanese Red Army Faction led by Mori Tsuneo, which is the guy who turned it into a terrorist group and murdered 12 members while they were hiding out in the mountains. She lived in the middle east for 30 years due to her ties to Palestinian liberation, and they arrested her when she returned to Japan in 2000. She's still in prison.

So actually the JRA was cool, and the JRAF was the self-struggling suicidal splinter group.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

papa_november posted:

Even less is known about Postgarden, but the few old Rhizzone posts that mention it are even less flattering. I have no idea when it split off WDDP but the place violently imploded roughly around the same time that WDDP purged itself. It was reformed later at a fraction of it's previous size as Postplace and appears to have dwindled into nothing as the domain doesn't even resolve anymore.

good. it was awful

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Whatever else you think of BSA this is lovely

https://twitter.com/Sire_26/status/1047014146888409088?s=19

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

GalacticAcid posted:

Weed nerds make me want to get liquored up and start fights

Weed is better than booze in every way

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

cut the price by 75% and let's talk

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


papa_november posted:

Even less is known about Postgarden, but the few old Rhizzone posts that mention it are even less flattering. I have no idea when it split off WDDP but the place violently imploded roughly around the same time that WDDP purged itself. It was reformed later at a fraction of it's previous size as Postplace and appears to have dwindled into nothing as the domain doesn't even resolve anymore.

slashie/tb destroyed postgarden, after she got lf kicked off of wddp. she was friends with the main admin who let her run her struggle sessions endlessly until people were being run off the forum for the most mundane poo poo. eventually she harassed some teenager so much for not liking anime (not liking anime was a sign of racism or something) that he had a mental breakdown and the forum finally turned on her, and the admin rather than ban her shut down the forum. it was incredibly dumb poo poo.

at that point though the only good thread was the economic meltdown thread.

Sheng-Ji Yang fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Oct 2, 2018

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Lmao

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

last i checked wddp a few years ago it was peenworm talking about bikes which is cool

i remember his bug posts in gbs circa 2005

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

slashie/tb destroyed postgarden, after she got lf kicked off of wddp. she was friends with the main admin who let her run her struggle sessions endlessly until people were being run off the forum for the most mundane poo poo. eventually she harassed some teenager so much for not liking anime (not liking anime was a sign of racism or something) that he had a mental breakdown and the forum finally turned on her, and the admin rather than ban her shut down the forum. it was incredibly dumb poo poo.

at that point though the only good thread was the economic meltdown thread.

without knowing anything about the anime liker lady, I'm gonna chalk this up as another example of PC Language Running Wild

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Larry Parrish posted:

without knowing anything about the anime liker lady, I'm gonna chalk this up as another example of PC Language Running Wild

she was a white/black/Proud Sephardi bigshot hollywood producer. i literally have no idea what's true there

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
she's completely insane based off her SA posting and got permabanned for repeatedly telling people to kill themselves because they disagreed with her

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Jose posted:

she's completely insane based off her SA posting

that's aliens, i'm describing the plot of alien here

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

slashie/tb destroyed postgarden, after she got lf kicked off of wddp. she was friends with the main admin who let her run her struggle sessions endlessly until people were being run off the forum for the most mundane poo poo. eventually she harassed some teenager so much for not liking anime (not liking anime was a sign of racism or something) that he had a mental breakdown and the forum finally turned on her, and the admin rather than ban her shut down the forum. it was incredibly dumb poo poo.

at that point though the only good thread was the economic meltdown thread.

in the grand tradition of victim blaming i'd just like to say that any forum that saw her posts and didn't shoot on sight deserved what it got

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

https://twitter.com/TheRedRoar/status/1047113198300749824

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


i say swears online posted:

she was a white/black/Proud Sephardi bigshot hollywood producer. i literally have no idea what's true there

she is straight up a billionaire heiress

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

is this a different rich heiress shitposter than red kahina

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
need a rich heiress poster wife

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
She my post queen, yeah baby

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Postoyevsky posted:

I agree

I didn't mean to imply that a large scale cooperative can't exist, I meant more that you can't have large swaths of the economy consisting of coops

But I agree that Project Jackson is good. More because it's an expansion of the coop model to an entire community

capitalism is better than feudalism

and coops are better than corporations

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

Top City Homo posted:

capitalism is better than feudalism


*citation needed

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
can you imagine having to listen to Kahina

this is what she writes like:

quote:

[Žižek’s] “mittel-European philosopher” persona is capable of little dissident enunciation beyond kvetching about “hedonistic” kids today and hippie-punching “the identitarian left”, but he will – and this is the crowd-pleasing shtick – also thrill his downwardly mobile petty bourgeois audience by dropping the mask of bourgeois civility to voice their ressentiment in naughty ways that rile them up. This usually involves ventriloquism or “sock-puppetry”, often of a very sophisticated kind where the position of enunciation is always shifting. The tactic is not original, and among the inspirations for Žižek’s signature abuse and obscenity we can almost certainly number “Nightwatch”, a regular Sunday feature in Delo, the major Slovene daily, consisting of the latest sensational headlines (crime, atrocity, scandal) stirred into the weekly complaints of “the Barflies” – Archie Bunker s/Alf Garnetts of Ljubljana’s popular classes…

The barflies themselves and the liberal persona of the author who conveys their brutish opinions are equally fictional constructs, (albeit not equally avowedly) and the interplay of their points of view generates the varied desired effects of normalizing, demonizing, disavowed articulation, etc.; the liberal authorial persona, creature and creator of tolerance and civility, perplexed by the task of managing a world with barflies in it, is himself an illusion far more effectively created indirectly, by implied contrast to the barflies, than he could be as the result of positive portraiture. Žižek is especially deft at the management of multiple voices to produce these illusions, on a much more elaborate scale. Like “Nightwatch’s” author, while his remarkably frequent (and repetitive to self-plagiarizing) publications “incorporate ever newer current events and popular cultural phenomena” Žižek often is compelled to express at length repugnant sentiments he frequently attributes to a range of conjured stereotypes, sympathy with whom he (unconvincingly) disavows as he relishes the enunciation of effrontery or the pleasure of contemptuous caricature…

One example of the dissemination of reactionary content equipped with this type of alibi, deploying “fetishistic disavowal” to facilitate the function of the Barfly ventriloquism, ought suffice:

In a recent comment in Le Point, Jacques-Alain Miller pointed out how Sarah Palin, contrary to Segolene Royal’s masculinity, proudly displays her femininity and motherhood. She has a “castrating” effect on her male opponents not by way of being more manly than them [sic], but by using the ultimate feminine weapon, the sarcastic put-down of a puffed-up male authority – she knows that male “phallic” authority is a posture, a semblance to be exploited and mocked. Recall how she mocked Obama as a “community organizer,” exploiting the fact that there was something sterile in Obama’s physical appearance, with his diluted black skin, slender features, and big ears.

The “superego’s” proper public enunciation here is to condemn the odious celebrity Barfly Sarah Palin of course. Under cover of this condemnation of the genuinely condemnable figure, Žižek provides the “obscene” pleasure for his white audience of a rather shocking revival of the lurid phantasmagoria of biologistic racism and the image of the future US President as a “sterile” mule/mulatto whose blackness envisioned as a kind of essence is “diluted.” That the mechanism by which this racist pleasure is blamed on Palin is transparently absurd (“community organizer” may be belittling and “castrating” – the violent image around which Žižek constructs his grotesquely obscene dog-whistle – but does not conjure the myth of mulatto sterility, and even if it did it cannot account for Žižek’s positive assertion of all the evocative imagery of 19th century race theory in his insistence on “the fact that there is something ….diluted black skin”) underscores the deftness of Žižek’s operations. Although his motions here are obvious as can be, as is his delectation in exposing this unsightly conception, they are still protected from criticism or objection from the “leftist” readers, who would be implicating themselves in “defending Sarah Palin” and even “defending Sarah Palin’s racism” if they were to challenge Žižek’s obscene flashing here. This is very clever, canny rhetorical manipulation, proceeding under the flaunted shield of ad hoc, spontaneous associations and disorganization. And this overt racist aggression, in public but behind this forcefield of his always-granted benefit of the doubt, is the thrill with which Žižek seduces and converts a segment of imperial core “lefts”; the very flimsiness of the cover story, and yet its adequacy, is part of the ecstasy of the bullying, evoking the fantasy of a Jim Crow environment.

who is this for? the 1% of the 1%?

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

the Japanese Red Army? their leader is still alive and I think walking free, even though she was basically responsible for every single murder.

I saw that someone is translating a manga that someone made about those guys and it's pretty grim how the artist puts numbers near the young student's head (represents the order which they died).

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Found it

https://mangadex.org/title/29749/red

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

slashie/tb destroyed postgarden, after she got lf kicked off of wddp. she was friends with the main admin who let her run her struggle sessions endlessly until people were being run off the forum for the most mundane poo poo. eventually she harassed some teenager so much for not liking anime (not liking anime was a sign of racism or something) that he had a mental breakdown and the forum finally turned on her, and the admin rather than ban her shut down the forum. it was incredibly dumb poo poo.

at that point though the only good thread was the economic meltdown thread.

Seeing people loudly bat for that lunatic's rereg account on QCS was harrowing. I wish I had that kind of cult leader charisma.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ShriekingMarxist posted:

can you imagine having to listen to Kahina

this is what she writes like:


who is this for? the 1% of the 1%?

She sound a like a butthurt idpol 'leftist' who's ideology never evolved past 'racial supremacy is bad so if we really hate on all these loving WHITE MALES but offer no solution to any systemic or cultural problem it'll all work out in post'

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Which, you know, obvious, but offering no critique of capitalism for it's creation and reinforcement of divides in society is the ultimate white privledge

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

Autism Sneaks posted:

*citation needed

karl marx

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Larry Parrish posted:

She sound a like a butthurt idpol 'leftist' who's ideology never evolved past 'racial supremacy is bad so if we really hate on all these loving WHITE MALES but offer no solution to any systemic or cultural problem it'll all work out in post'

It's impossible to even tell what Red Kahina believes because she's an egomaniac, and everything is a self-aggrandizing exercise in political correctness (I mean this in the original Stalinist sense of the term).

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

ShriekingMarxist posted:

can you imagine having to listen to Kahina

this is what she writes like:


who is this for? the 1% of the 1%?

"this" loving "sucks"

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's impossible to even tell what Red Kahina believes because she's an egomaniac, and everything is a self-aggrandizing exercise in political correctness (I mean this in the original Stalinist sense of the term).

it's great watching her crew slowly disintegrate over time though. even ostensible "tankies" have shunned them for the most part

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Probably mostly due to the islamophobia / antisemitism and transphobia

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ShriekingMarxist posted:

Probably mostly due to the islamophobia / antisemitism and transphobia

as everyone knows a corner stone of egalitarian materialist ideology is hating people for being different

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
A People's History of the United States is very good

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Graphic posted:

"this" loving "sucks"
"mods" won't ban me for my "shitposts"

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

ShriekingMarxist posted:

Probably mostly due to the islamophobia / antisemitism and transphobia

No a lot of tankies are fine with that too. She really pisses people off because she can't help but step on peoples' toes and emotionally abuse her followers for no apparent reason. Her slap fights with Phil Greaves are worse than pointless.

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

No a lot of tankies are fine with that too. She really pisses people off because she can't help but step on peoples' toes and emotionally abuse her followers for no apparent reason. Her slap fights with Phil Greaves are worse than pointless.

my limited interactions with the children of obscene wealth leads me to believe that viscerally repellent ways of interacting with people in general, but especially your peers and hangers-on, is typical rich girl behavior

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

"mods" won't ban me for my "shitposts"

that must feel great, there's not many leftist spaces on the internet you can post dengist poo poo without getting laughed at

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Graphic posted:

that must feel great, there's not many leftist spaces on the internet you can post dengist poo poo without getting laughed at

stop being a whiny bitch

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