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Krispy Kareem posted:poo poo. I'm actually considering a Volkswagen and that Jim Ellis location is closest VW dealership to me. Even after the emissions cheating fiasco?
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NancyPants posted:Even after the emissions cheating fiasco? I mean every other car manufacturer was doing the exact same thing. 
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May 29, 2016 06:37
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NancyPants posted:Even after the emissions cheating fiasco?  if you've ever trusted vw after what stories your grand (great grand?)) father has told you.(If you have a family like mine also count mitsubishi)
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May 29, 2016 09:13
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Lol yeah cause I def thought VW was a 'good' company at any point  Is there some super secret reasoning to intentionally buy an expensive car that now has even shittier resale value, may have its performance crippled, and/or will get terrible MPG to comply with emissions standards? And to consider this before the consequences of the cheating are even known?
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May 29, 2016 10:48
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NancyPants posted:Lol yeah cause I def thought VW was a 'good' company at any point ~*~gErMaN eNgInEeRiNg~*~ I get how BMW's and Mercs are luxury cars and how that appeals to some people, but the decision to purchase a modern VW has always mystified me.
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May 29, 2016 13:05
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Nitrox posted:I just want to remind everyone, thinking of buying a VW, that it's a vile company that will cheat, lie, steal and sue it's customers for internet posts. No, seriously. VW NA corporate office had fully backed Jim Ellis in lawsuit against a customer, who posted negative experience on a message board, circa early 2000's. You can guess as to what happened. quote:Does Vortex need legal representation? Not yet, becuase JE sued the wrong company! There is a small company in Alpharetta called "Vortex Media" that received this summons. However, this is not the company that runs the Vortex web site! So, in order for JE to sue the "real" Vortex Media, they would have to file in Federal Court, a Cobb County court can make no ruling against a company entirely outside of Georgia Oh boy Thanks for this, I needed something fun to read at work today.
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blugu64 posted:
I don't have any grandfathers, so you're just gonna have to tell the stories for them 
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May 29, 2016 13:56
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NancyPants posted:Even after the emissions cheating fiasco? ESPECIALLY after the emissions fiasco. prices are lower
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May 29, 2016 14:43
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Krispy Kareem posted:ESPECIALLY after the emissions fiasco. prices are lower I mean, of you're looking for the cheapest, then there is Chrysler and Mitsubishi. While paying less may be better with money, how much is the extra headache worth?
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May 29, 2016 16:04
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Pompous Rhombus posted:~*~gErMaN eNgInEeRiNg~*~ They sell cars that are virtually interchangeable on size, options, and price with Honda Accord, Civics Fits and Toyota Camry, Corolla, and Yaris, so I guess it's probably the same reasons as those just a matter of whichever car you happen to like a tiny bit more??
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May 29, 2016 16:30
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From someone stuck in the middle of this dieselgate bullshit, don't buy a vw.
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May 29, 2016 16:39
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Nitrox posted:The cars and corporate did not suddenly get better. My first car was a VW SuperBeetle, so the brand has a soft spot in my heart/head. The fact the most convenient dealership to me is the one that sued a customer for Internet postings probably hurts more than cheating emissions though.
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May 29, 2016 16:45
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As a gti owner all I can say is its great and probably still the best hot hatch around.
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BraveUlysses posted:From someone stuck in the middle of this dieselgate bullshit, don't buy a vw. C'mon, I wanna sell this golf
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BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:They sell cars that are virtually interchangeable on size, options, and price with Honda Accord, Civics Fits and Toyota Camry, Corolla, and Yaris, so I guess it's probably the same reasons as those just a matter of whichever car you happen to like a tiny bit more?? A golf is 20k and a Honda fit is 16k.
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May 29, 2016 18:51
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BraveUlysses posted:From someone stuck in the middle of this dieselgate bullshit, don't buy a vw. At this point, I really don't understand why anyone would buy a VW. One of my buddies recently bought a new (financed) Tiguan, because "The whole scandal means I'm getting a good deal on it!" And he bought it because he's having his first kid, and insists that "We just need a bigger car for the baby, you know?" Nothing like loading up your newborn baby into a car that's manufactured by a scandal-plagued company. 
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May 29, 2016 19:16
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I got a Corolla because the half hour bits of fun don't make up for the hours and dollars I'd spend sitting in a mechanic / dealer lobby sipping bad coffee or with a rental car. Aside from some premature wearing of belts and the numerous assholes that scraped my car and ran from parking lots I'm pretty happy with how things are at 120k miles on the odometer. If I want to drive a super car for fun / status BS, I can just pay for a membership and pay maybe $20k / yr for access to all sorts of crazy poo poo and it'd be both more enjoyable and cheaper than actually owning one and dealing with depreciation. On the other hand, I get the impression BWM : Personal Edition actions are exactly what being actually wealthy is supposed to mean half the time.
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melon cat posted:At this point, I really don't understand why anyone would buy a VW. One of my buddies recently bought a new (financed) Tiguan, because "The whole scandal means I'm getting a good deal on it!" It's amazing what people will let an incoming baby talk them into. I had a coworker lecture me for a good 15 minutes about how I need to buy a bigger house now before we add a baby in December.
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May 29, 2016 19:28
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defectivemonkey posted:It's amazing what people will let an incoming baby talk them into. I had a coworker lecture me for a good 15 minutes about how I need to buy a bigger house now before we add a baby in December. Living in an expensive area and working with low income families has really taught me the truth about how many kids one can fit in a space. Thank god for the nice climate in the Bay Area - just send all the kids outside most of the day and you can fit 4 in a closet sized bunk room. I was very proud of a friend of mine for resisting family pressure to move when she had her baby in March. They have killer rent on a nice one bedroom and now a corner of the living room has a bassinet and baby swing and they are coping just fine.
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May 29, 2016 19:42
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The emissions scandal is kinda nice for VW in that everybody forgot about the cars spontaneously combusting.
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From a pregnancy message board: quote:Hey everyone.My name is Claudia, and am 30 and going to be a first time mom. After a 2 1/2 year long distance relationship, I finally moved in with my boyfriend. The move itseld, me bying into this (now our) townhouse and getting a new (preowned) car and the fact that I also support a horse and a large dog, all is taking a huge toll on my line of credit. I am working full time at a hospital as a technician and I took an additional job mucking out stalls at a barn for 15$/h, which I do every day I am not at the hospital (doing 12 hour shifts there). I am exhausted and tired and still don't feel that I am making much progress in paying my 10K off. I don't want to give up my horse but I also need to start shopping for baby equipment. There is not a real question involved here, only hoping for a few kind words and maybe others stepping forward in a similar situation. "I don't have a question, just please tell me how I can be 10K in credit card debt and have a baby and keep paying for my horse tia!"
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May 29, 2016 20:14
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defectivemonkey posted:From a pregnancy message board: quote:I also support a horse and a large dog Makes it sound like she was in a polyamorous marriage with the horse/dog and is now paying horse alimony.
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May 29, 2016 20:30
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defectivemonkey posted:It's amazing what people will let an incoming baby talk them into. I had a coworker lecture me for a good 15 minutes about how I need to buy a bigger house now before we add a baby in December. Without their own home office, your child will be impossibly behind the curve at Pre-K
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May 29, 2016 20:32
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GWM: abandoning your dead horse in the woods and never looking back
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El Mero Mero posted:GWM: abandoning your dead horse in the woods and never looking back To be fair there is no especially practical way to remove an injured or dead horse from a trail. I have to express great appreciation for the effort someone went through to post that sign, though
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They literally use a dump truck with a winch for cows. Think flatbed tow truck with dump truck bed.
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blugu64 posted:They literally use a dump truck with a winch for cows. Think flatbed tow truck with dump truck bed. Not on a trail they don't.
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How many horses would it take to haul off the dead horse? You could quarter it and do it with less horse power!
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SiGmA_X posted:How many horses would it take to haul off the dead horse? You could quarter it and do it with less horse power! Depends, bringing the other horses could cause one of them to have an issue and then you are in a worse place than before, with two dead horses!
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crazypeltast52 posted:Depends, bringing the other horses could cause one of them to have an issue and then you are in a worse place than before, with two dead horses! Horse meat is really tasty. Especially raw. I'd chow down on that second, fresh dead horse and consider it a blessing.
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Just fuckin burn it. Get a fire permit, a can of gas, and have at it.
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What the gently caress. How is leaving a horse carcass acceptable on a trail? They should at least attempt to bury it, or somehow quicken the decomposition. I hope they stuck a few holes in the beast so it doesn't explode on someone.defectivemonkey posted:From a pregnancy message board:  Owns 2 horses . Heavenly lord, this is goooooold. I love the words she uses "supporting", like theyre disabled, or you're in a relationship with them.What have the other moms posted in response? Suspicious Lump fucked around with this message at 02:38 on May 30, 2016 |
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TLG James posted:A golf is 20k and a Honda fit is 16k. I know you weren't the one that made the comparison, but they're not really equivalent cars. Not saying it is worth the additional money, but the Golf is a bigger car with more space. VW has been getting a lot of hate in this thread, both for reliability and the emissions scandal (among other things), and perhaps rightfully so, but I think it is also important to note that reliability of cars across the board is amazing these days when compared to older vehicles, especially considering how much more complicated they are. On the other hand, there has been a steady stream of news about other automakers also cheating or otherwise cutting corners on emissions, but VW was first.
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Suspicious Lump posted:What the gently caress. How is leaving a horse carcass acceptable on a trail? They should at least attempt to bury it, or somehow quicken the decomposition. I hope they stuck a few holes in the beast so it doesn't explode on someone. It's just another dead animal. People just need to avoid riding their mountain bike into the bloated carcass. Nothing quite like taking on an extra job just to pay for horses. It must make riding them once a month or less so satisfying. 
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Steve French posted:I know you weren't the one that made the comparison, but they're not really equivalent cars. Not saying it is worth the additional money, but the Golf is a bigger car with more space. No there hasn't. There's been no evidence that any other company has cheated on emissions. In fact, the original road test that caught VW, which was performed independently by a group of US professors, included a BMW diesel car as part of the test. In total it was 2 VW cars and one BMW. Both VW cars had emissions that were literally off the charts (so unbelievable that the testers thought their equipment was broken), while the BMW emissions were excellent. VW is poo poo and you're doubly dumb for trying to downplay their criminal cheating.
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Zo posted:No there hasn't. There's been no evidence that any other company has cheated on emissions. o rly Mitsubishi admits manipulating emissions data Mercedes-Benz, Honda, Mazda and Mitsubishi’s cars are shown to emit significantly more NOx pollution on the road than in regulatory tests Diesel cars made by Renault, Nissan, Hyundai, Citroen, Fiat and Volvo among others emitted far more NOx in more rigorous tests, research shows Dr. Eldarion fucked around with this message at 03:15 on May 30, 2016 |
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Read: emissions. Anyway Mitsubishi is a similarly poo poo company with three huge scandals in recent memory. I wouldn't defend them either.
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As for your edit, 2-4 times the test standard is not evidence of cheating. Test benchmarks are set more or less arbitrarily and vehicles will always perform worse in road tests. For reference, VW emissions were 15-40 times higher.
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Owning a car is BWM. Take public transportation.
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Pureauthor posted:Owning a car is BWM. Take public transportation. Despite working peripherally in the auto industry this is what i do. With the occasional rental for vacations etc 
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