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BonHair posted:Doesn't Støjberg sagen mean that a minister saying stuff like that is legally speaking a directive that should be followed? As an economist I always get a bit pissed off when people lump in finance with economics Stock markets are fundamentally flawed and a detriment to the economy. Finance is an education where you learn to exploit it for personal gain
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Congratulations to Denmark for bringing back blasphemy laws. Stellar work.
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Alhazred posted:Congratulations to Denmark for bringing back blasphemy laws. Stellar work. Thanks, but while I fully support their right to secession, the Faroes have maintained their "blasphemy law". This new law is not a reimplementation of the former mainland "blasphemy law", which among other things was used to penalize antisemites who claimed the Talmud allowed for the rape of goyim women, however; its purpose is not to prevent "blasphemy", its purpose is to prevent petulant nazis from instigating diplomatic conflicts with foreign powers. It can be likened to the law against flag desecration. It's by no means perfect, but then you'd be hard pressed find such legislation from the current crop of legislators. It has borne some weapons-grade salt, though, which is a bonus.
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Alhazred posted:Congratulations to Denmark for bringing back blasphemy laws. Stellar work.
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Alhazred posted:Congratulations to Denmark for bringing back blasphemy laws. Stellar work. Congratulations to Danes for making a new blasphemy law necessary for the Danish state to have some semblance of good international relations My instructor for mass handling equipment posted:We wouldn't need laws if it weren't for idiots
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Some people really need to be protected lest their feelings ger hurt.
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Jack Trades posted:Some people really need to be protected lest their feelings ger hurt. As yet there's no legislation being considered for people butthurt that they can't reenact NSDAP's greatest hits, I'm sorry.
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SplitSoul posted:As yet there's no legislation being considered for people butthurt that they can't reenact NSDAP's greatest hits, I'm sorry. Are you saying there should be or what?
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SplitSoul posted:As yet there's no legislation being considered for people butthurt that they can't reenact NSDAP's greatest hits, I'm sorry. If it makes you feel any better, Sweden and Finland were still quarreling over some phrenologist's study materials this past October. Skulls for the skull throne, etc.
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Dec 8, 2023 19:30
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It's a law where all involved parties are kinda poo poo. Religious zealots, aggressive atheists/racists and free speech fanatics. But the racism angle means that it's probably good to have the new law
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Dec 8, 2023 19:33
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I'm not happy with the law but its better than all the alternatives I came up with, if only because they all involve committing human rights violations on that fucker
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Rappaport posted:If it makes you feel any better, Sweden and Finland were still quarreling over some phrenologist's study materials this past October. Skulls for the skull throne, etc. I prefer retrophrenology; the science of modifying a person's characteristics by altering the shape of their skull. For example with a hammer.
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Dec 8, 2023 20:49
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Fruits of the sea posted:I'm not happy with the law but its better than all the alternatives I came up with, if only because they all involve committing human rights violations on that fucker The better alternative is to not make burning of religious texts a crime.
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Dec 9, 2023 09:26
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Fucker should have been institutionalized a decade ago, preferably no later than during his spree of criminal stalking and harassment. sucks that that's apparently legal if you're a lawyer, someone should look into that
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Dec 9, 2023 12:44
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Can anyone who has really strong opinions on this include some of the legal text, because I'm pretty sure it's more nuanced than the headlines
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Anders posted:Can anyone who has really strong opinions on this include some of the legal text, because I'm pretty sure it's more nuanced than the headlines quote:Det foreslås, at der indføres en bestemmelse i straffelovens § 110 e, stk. 2, som gør det strafbart offentligt eller med forsæt til udbredelse i en videre kreds at behandle et skrift med væsentlig religiøs betydning for et trossamfund eller en genstand, der fremstår som en sådan, utilbørligt.
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Extremely cool
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The real issue is that desecrating religious text is just a tool to step on minorities for some people. What we* actually want is for assholes not to be allowed to harass minorities for racist reasons, but removing a tool in the racist toolkit is a good thing, even if there's technically some legitimate uses for it. *We the posters, not we the people, we the people want to sell cheese and chicken offal to the middle east.
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Dec 9, 2023 19:52
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The real, real issue is that it's impossible to overstate the fat cowardice of the pastry eating Dane, and their language is the second dumbest in the world after the Dutch. It's now more vital than ever for the Schleswig referendum to be amended, so the border may be moved to its proper place some 368 kilometres to the north.
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Crespolini posted:The real, real issue is that it's impossible to overstate the fat cowardice of the pastry eating Dane, and their language is the second dumbest in the world after the Dutch. I will remind you that the Danish king did try to basically give the country to Bismarck, but he cleverly refused because gently caress the Danish, they're too much trouble.
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Dec 9, 2023 21:40
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Crespolini posted:The real, real issue is that it's impossible to overstate the fat cowardice of the pastry eating Dane, and their language is the second dumbest in the world after the Dutch.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Reminder that the Danish population of Slesvig-Holstein were the targets of a policy of ethnic cleansing/cultural genocide perpetrated by the German Empire, resulting in 300k Danes leaving the territory. Please do kindly gently caress off with this poo poo. Oh for sure dude
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BonHair posted:gently caress the Danish Would if I could, better chicks than sweden.
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Alhazred posted:The better alternative is to not make burning of religious texts a crime. OK mr. Hitchens
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Reminder that the Danish population of Slesvig-Holstein were the targets of a policy of ethnic cleansing/cultural genocide perpetrated by the German Empire, resulting in 300k Danes leaving the territory. Please do kindly gently caress off with this poo poo. Free Slesvig-Holsten! Also Skåne, Halland og Blekinge.
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BonHair posted:The real issue is that desecrating religious text is just a tool to step on minorities for some people. What we* actually want is for assholes not to be allowed to harass minorities for racist reasons, but removing a tool in the racist toolkit is a good thing, even if there's technically some legitimate uses for it. We, the posters believe that the end justifies the means.
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BonHair posted:Free Slesvig-Holsten! Also Skåne, Halland og Blekinge.
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BonHair posted:The real issue is that desecrating religious text is just a tool to step on minorities for some people. What we* actually want is for assholes not to be allowed to harass minorities for racist reasons, but removing a tool in the racist toolkit is a good thing, even if there's technically some legitimate uses for it. ulvir posted:OK mr. Hitchens Pretty weird to see people defend blasphemy laws which in Norway has solely been used to stop people from criticizing the majority religion, christianity.
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i think there’s a pretty big difference between Øverland’s “kristendommen, den tiende landeplage” and deliberately standing outside of a youth centre where a majority of the children are minorities, just to smirk at a phone camera while you burn the quran and yell something incoherent about “replacement” and “scandinavia will never be a sharia state! go home!”, but what do I know
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The thing is, if you persecute Paludan (because he's the main character of blasphemy laws) for racism, you end up with a mess of subjective judgements about what is and isn't racist. And then he gets to go on a whole thing about the woke mob being in charge and so forth. If there's a clear law saying he can't do his signature move, we can hopefully skip some of the birth sides crap.
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What? That's not even possibly how this will pan out. Everyone knows what this law is and what specifically it's in response to.
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ulvir posted:i think there’s a pretty big difference between Øverland’s “kristendommen, den tiende landeplage” and deliberately standing outside of a youth centre where a majority of the children are minorities, just to smirk at a phone camera while you burn the quran and yell something incoherent about “replacement” and “scandinavia will never be a sharia state! go home!”, but what do I know imho maybe threatening children on racist/religious grounds could be the crime instead of the blasphemy
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there are genuine problems posed by the activity of someone like paludan, but none that i can see which could not be practicallty solved by just not giving him police protection for his stupid provocations
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if i insisted on wearing a full Brann outfit and standing outside of the RBK supporters' pub in trondheim shouting that everyone with a moustache is intrinsically a paedophile, i would 1) not get police protection and 2) get physically and enthusiastically removed to the nearest bin in a way which would probably discourage me from being quite that much of an rear end in a top hat
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It's important to keep in mind that the racist Danish government doesn't give a single fraction of a gently caress about harassing religious and ethnic minorities. That's pretty much its entire raison d'être next to funnelling public funds into private coffers. The law, which, again, is not a "blasphemy law", is intended to curtail diplomatic conflicts with foreign governments. https://www.retsinformation.dk/eli/ft/202312L00065 quote:Den seneste tids koranafbrændinger har betydet, at Danmark i store dele af verden i stigende grad ses som et land, der faciliterer forhånelse og nedgørelse af andre lande og religioner. Handlingerne må antages at have haft som deres primære formål at forhåne og fremprovokere reaktioner.
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BonHair posted:The thing is, if you persecute Paludan (because he's the main character of blasphemy laws) for racism, you end up with a mess of subjective judgements about what is and isn't racist. And then he gets to go on a whole thing about the woke mob being in charge and so forth. If there's a clear law saying he can't do his signature move, we can hopefully skip some of the birth sides crap. It is not impossible to get people convicted for saying racist poo poo: https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/76Jkg8/kvinne-doemt-for-hatefulle-ytringer https://www.dagsavisen.no/fremtiden/nyheter/2019/11/08/sian-leder-domt-til-betinget-fengsel-i-oslo-tingrett/ SplitSoul posted:It's important to keep in mind that the racist Danish government doesn't give a single fraction of a gently caress about harassing religious and ethnic minorities. That's pretty much its entire raison d'être next to funnelling public funds into private coffers. The law, which, again, is not a "blasphemy law", is intended to curtail diplomatic conflicts with foreign governments.
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V. Illych L. posted:if i insisted on wearing a full Brann outfit and standing outside of the RBK supporters' pub in trondheim shouting that everyone with a moustache is intrinsically a paedophile, i would 1) not get police protection and 2) get physically and enthusiastically removed to the nearest bin in a way which would probably discourage me from being quite that much of an rear end in a top hat At most you'd risk an ørtæv or two. Unless, lmao, you're actually a bergenser in which case you'd get to compete in the Nidelva 100 meters freestyle
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V. Illych L. posted:if i insisted on wearing a full Brann outfit and standing outside of the RBK supporters' pub in trondheim shouting that everyone with a moustache is intrinsically a paedophile, i would 1) not get police protection and 2) get physically and enthusiastically removed to the nearest bin in a way which would probably discourage me from being quite that much of an rear end in a top hat
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Alhazred posted:But you see that that makes the law even worse? Right? No, it makes the government worse, which is pretty impressive in its own right.
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Nice piece of fish posted:At most you'd risk an ørtæv or two. i thought we knew each other better than this mr fish  Alhazred posted:Unless someone is lobbying towards making wearing specific footnall shirts illegal then this analogy doesn't work. i'm not entirely sure how you're parsing that post, but i suggest you try again and perhaps also read my previous post directly above the one you're quoting for added context
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