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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Sports Illustrated was busted publishing articles attributed to fake authors with AI-generated bio photos: https://futurism.com/sports-illustrated-ai-generated-writers

Apparently they bought the 'content' from a third party which didn't even bother to cover their tracks at all, the site where they got the fake bio photos still had them featured:


For a while there every time someone found a fake author and called them out the magazine would just delete their name from the article and sub in a replacement fake person, lol

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tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Sports Illustrated was busted publishing articles attributed to fake authors with AI-generated bio photos: https://futurism.com/sports-illustrated-ai-generated-writers

Apparently they bought the 'content' from a third party which didn't even bother to cover their tracks at all, the site where they got the fake bio photos still had them featured:


For a while there every time someone found a fake author and called them out the magazine would just delete their name from the article and sub in a replacement fake person, lol

gonna modify this tech to create AI generated D&D posts so nobody can know for sure if a syq is a human or one of my many troll bots

when one of them gets modded I'll ban everyone

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

tokin opposition posted:

gonna modify this tech to create AI generated D&D posts so nobody can know for sure if a syq is a human or one of my many troll bots

when one of them gets modded I'll ban everyone

execute calm underscore hitler dot pickle

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

tokin opposition posted:

gonna modify this tech to create AI generated D&D posts so nobody can know for sure if a syq is a human or one of my many troll bots

when one of them gets modded I'll ban everyone

chatD&D

TehSaurus
Jun 12, 2006

The Oldest Man posted:

execute calm underscore hitler dot pickle

this is me

Rodney The Yam II
Mar 3, 2007




Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

tokin opposition posted:

thank you, it was, and i apologize

i accept your apology


maybe with the text: THE FUTURE IS SO EXCITING!

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

tokin opposition posted:

gonna modify this tech to create AI generated D&D posts so nobody can know for sure if a syq is a human or one of my many troll bots

when one of them gets modded I'll ban everyone
lol

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat

Lpzie posted:

ai is the future. consume

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Oh poo poo it happened again


https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/12/michael-cohens-lawyer-cited-three-fake-cases-in-possible-ai-fueled-screwup/

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009


That should be grounds for disbarment.

TehSaurus
Jun 12, 2006

Sorry I don’t keep up with this thread much, but I wonder if there’s been discussion about the potential use of AI generated models in advertising, media, and social media? I’m imagining a world where instead of women being traumatized by their inability to meet impossible beauty standards set by the most attractive people on earth, enhanced by image editing, standard is raised even higher by flooding media with people who don’t even exist? I feel pretty confident that this is where we are headed and I just feel bad for young people :smith:

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Pretty sure we're already well past explicitly fake instagram models, much less the ones that hide it.

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012


Anyone else count the fingers on that pic?

Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

But have you considered whether the child murdered by the driver of that truck was riding an oversized bike?!?! Children riding oversized bikes are the scourge of our roadways!!

TehSaurus posted:

Sorry I don’t keep up with this thread much, but I wonder if there’s been discussion about the potential use of AI generated models in advertising, media, and social media? I’m imagining a world where instead of women being traumatized by their inability to meet impossible beauty standards set by the most attractive people on earth, enhanced by image editing, standard is raised even higher by flooding media with people who don’t even exist? I feel pretty confident that this is where we are headed and I just feel bad for young people :smith:

Can beauty be faked? We are about to find out for the first time!

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

TehSaurus posted:

Sorry I don’t keep up with this thread much, but I wonder if there’s been discussion about the potential use of AI generated models in advertising, media, and social media? I’m imagining a world where instead of women being traumatized by their inability to meet impossible beauty standards set by the most attractive people on earth, enhanced by image editing, standard is raised even higher by flooding media with people who don’t even exist? I feel pretty confident that this is where we are headed and I just feel bad for young people :smith:

There was a case here in Australia during the Indigenous Voice To Parliament referendum where some random guy on Facebook created "Vote No" ads which featured AI-generated models which had indigenous features: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/aug/07/indigenous-voice-to-parliament-no-campaign-ai-facebook-ads
He got called out on it pretty hard but tried to claim he didn't realise people might interpret it that way. Sure, buddy. :rolleyes:

Online porn is already flooded with AI generated images and high school kids are spreading deepfake porn of their classmates and not only traumatising their victims but getting also arrested on some pretty serious charges: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/deepfake-nude-images-teen-girls-action-parents-lawmakers-ai-pandemic/

It's a problem here in Australia as well, to the extent that the government has introduced new guidelines specifically to tackle malicious deepfake porn: https://www.smh.com.au/technology/australia-launches-world-first-crackdown-on-deepfake-porn-20231119-p5el1v.html
A guy just got charged in Australia for creating deepfake porn of several teachers and female students from a local school and posting them on his website: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-06/qld-deepfake-images-court-charge-antonio-rotondo-school-students/103195578
Surprise twist: he was already in jail for creating malicious deepfake porn of female celebrities

Also a dude in Japan got arrested a couple years ago for using AI technology to unpixelate the genitals in porn and then sell it, which not only broke their obscenity laws but also copyright laws: https://gizmodo.com.au/2021/10/deepfaking-genitalia-into-blurred-porn-leads-to-mans-arrest-in-japan/

It's real hosed up!

Snowglobe of Doom has issued a correction as of 16:29 on Dec 14, 2023

TehSaurus
Jun 12, 2006

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

It's real hosed up!

wow that is super hosed up. I can’t believe I knew so little of that. Especially the kids doing deepfake porn of each other Jesus.

Thanks for sharing these references. Real glad most of my career has been spent on making this stuff cheaper and more accessible.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1735057007613284352?t=a9iR5G93tVmV0ouTul162w&s=19

I wonder if removing the illicit-ness of the thing is going to cause people to lose interest, but good on her I guess for tapping into monetization that other people would have otherwise made at her expense?

TehSaurus
Jun 12, 2006

that’s definitely the least worst choice available to her. Hope it pans out for her

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/calebgamman/status/1735472635696537878?t=dDWhBqJYiU2Nf66XFZoc4A&s=19

TehSaurus
Jun 12, 2006

look Caleb just count yourself lucky that there is still music made by real humans because that’s going to be gone too before you know it!

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005


yep I hate it. why are people like this



1080p:



4k:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

TehSaurus posted:

look Caleb just count yourself lucky that there is still music made by real humans because that’s going to be gone too before you know it!

If we only count singers who don't use autotune as "real human voices" then music made by real humans is already getting pretty rare :v:

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

If we only count singers who don't use autotune as "real human voices" then music made by real humans is already getting pretty rare :v:

nah. just recorded music. most music on earth that happens every day isn't recorded

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

TehSaurus posted:

look Caleb just count yourself lucky that there is still music made by real humans because that’s going to be gone too before you know it!

I like to work to ambient music, and that genre on Spotify is filling up with no-name artists with no online presence other than their empty Spotify profiles. I assume it's all AI generated content now.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

webcams for christ posted:

yep I hate it. why are people like this



1080p:



4k:



Ooh that's fun. Adding a bit of noise to an upsized image is a good way to hide the loss of clarity/stretched pixels. I do that in photoshop all the time to sharpen up a picture.
They probably should have made sure it was on actual film before applying that as a blanket approach though

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Ooh that's fun. Adding a bit of noise to an upsized image is a good way to hide the loss of clarity/stretched pixels. I do that in photoshop all the time to sharpen up a picture.
They probably should have made sure it was on actual film before applying that as a blanket approach though

no the noise is from the film scans themselves. the 4k in this instance is higher fidelity to the original medium

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

webcams for christ posted:

no the noise is from the film scans themselves. the 4k in this instance is higher fidelity to the original medium

Right, I think we're talking the same thing. Let me explain what I mean though with an example.
(And by no means am I saying this is the technique they used, but it seems like it could be likely because my results end up similar)

So super tiny Citizen Kane picture. Purposely small for the sake of example, there's barely any detail.


upscaled 4x we end up with weird distortions and it's very evidently not a natural image of a person


so you take that upscaled image, overlay over the original image just with a normal algorithmic enlargement, sharpen some poo poo and add some noise


It's by no means perfect (especially since this example is intentionally exaggerated to show the algorithmic effects) but you're closer to an approximation of something the human eye will accept as a picture of a human being.

The problem is, upscaling works super well just by itself on line art.



But you're on a deadline, you've got a batch process running through all the old cartoons and it worked on the movies so just slap that same grain overlay and oops

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

I'm under the impression that the Charlie Brown stuff is a new scan of the 35mm film, not an upscale:

quote:

Again approaching the Holiday Season, Warner Brothers Home Entertainment has released the TV classics: "A Charlie Brown Christmas" (1965), "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown" (1966), and "A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving" (1973), all remastered in 4K, scanned from the 35mm camera negative, or a second generation print when needed, and released for the first time on 4K Ultra HD.

and it's funny and sad the redditor I posted above is lamenting that it doesn't look like fake-smooth upscaled 4k animation

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Ah well that's definitely digital noise in the 4k shot so I suppose it could also possibly be a compression and decompression algorithm trying to pull off the same trick in the other direction (shrinking the 4K master a bit and then stretching it back out app side to save a bit of data)

Which is a damned shame

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Ah well that's definitely digital noise in the 4k shot so I suppose it could also possibly be a compression and decompression algorithm trying to pull off the same trick in the other direction (shrinking the 4K master a bit and then stretching it back out app side to save a bit of data)

Which is a damned shame
Wait why is it definitely digital noise and not just film grain from scanning old 35mm film?

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

WrasslorMonkey posted:

Wait why is it definitely digital noise and not just film grain from scanning old 35mm film?

if you blow it up you can see the chunking


If it was just a raw image quality issue you'd expect a uniform distribution for the noise but you can definitely tell this is a byproduct of compression or upscaling or some poo poo they didn't take into account.

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

if you blow it up you can see the chunking


If it was just a raw image quality issue you'd expect a uniform distribution for the noise but you can definitely tell this is a byproduct of compression or upscaling or some poo poo they didn't take into account.

I mean it was a photo of a TV streaming 4k on plex, uploaded to reddit image hosting, downloaded onto my phone, and uploaded to imgur

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Any resolution past 1080 is bourgeois decadence anyway

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

projecthalaxy posted:

Any resolution past 1080i is bourgeois decadence anyway

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique


What the gently caress?

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

if you blow it up you can see the chunking


If it was just a raw image quality issue you'd expect a uniform distribution for the noise but you can definitely tell this is a byproduct of compression or upscaling or some poo poo they didn't take into account.

I don’t think film grain is uniform. It may look that way when zoomed out, but when you zoom in it seems pretty random and chunky.

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Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

WrasslorMonkey posted:

I don’t think film grain is uniform. It may look that way when zoomed out, but when you zoom in it seems pretty random and chunky.

Right, uniform is the wrong word there. I meant you'd expect it to be... dispersed uniformly, not in those blocks. That's indicative of compression.
And that's what I'm seeing on the 4k version from apple tv as well, though it's not quite as pronounced.


And now I'm downloading a blu ray rip just to see where this went wrong in remastering because it does really look a lot worse than it ought to.

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