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Cat Hatter posted:So less than charcoal started with lighter fluid then? My parents growing up would start the grill with lighting fluid. My childhood was filled with the farting noises a can of nearly empty lighting fluid made. "HOW IS THIS SAFE OH GOD," I thought as flames licked the side of the house. When I bought my first house I bought an old fashioned kettle and a coal chimney and never looked back.
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I'm surprised anyone can tell the difference between propane and butane after combustion. Maybe it's actually that propane comes with mercaptan oderants in it that add that flavor, while butane is meant for lighters and chefs torches and doesn't include the same oderants?
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May 5, 2021 03:46
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It's totally the odorant that smells like rear end.
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May 5, 2021 03:55
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It’s only smellz.
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May 5, 2021 04:51
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Steakandchips posted:I'm in the UK. If you’ll have access to mains power, an electric heat gun is my preferred charcoal ignitor. Cheap, fast, and never runs out of fuel.
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May 5, 2021 06:08
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um excuse me posted:Hey it's not turd on your plate bad. More of essence of fart, a kiss of bare rear end, if you will. there's definitely room in my addled brain for the gas to have been something besides propane, but it was definitely always an ordinary looking click-start torch. i seem to recall the canister being yellow, which apparently means it was either mapp or "mapp substitutes" since mappgas hasn't been made in the us since 2008 and yeah all the places i worked were shitholes, but a couple were the sort of well-reviewed local institution shitholes with non-shithole-looking front of house so the tourists didnt know it was a shithole. i dont remember anyone complaining that the creme brulee smelled like fart gas but that doesn't mean it didnt happen lol Cactus Ghost fucked around with this message at 07:05 on May 5, 2021 |
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May 5, 2021 07:03
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I've never been entirely clear if mapp-substitute combustion products are fine to eat or not.
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May 5, 2021 17:37
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I've made creme brulee with a MAPP(ish) torch.
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May 5, 2021 18:47
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Pretty much every professional kitchen I've worked in (including Michelin star rated places) has used some flavor of the old reliable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0019CQL60/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_CMND348P5SDAKE5HKJK4 MAPP or Propane depending on which place it was. The little screw on torches were around as backups but everyone always wanted to use the big guy.
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May 5, 2021 18:59
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Krakkles posted:I've made creme brulee with a MAPP(ish) torch. Same. And it will get busted out here shortly to light up some charcoal. From plumbing to bolts to food its a versatile tool.
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May 5, 2021 19:17
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I looked up more about different torches used for cooking. The fart taste is formally called "torch taste". It is caused by incomplete, rich, combustion. It is independent of fuel...sorta. You see, them big plumber torches are commonly used in kitchens because they support a hotter flame which is always a good thing if the goal is searing. Problem is one of the most susceptible proteins for torch taste also happens to be one of the most commonly seared: beef. You probably won't use a brulee torch on a steak. Hence the misconception about fuel. Butane also contains the fart additive ethyl mercaptan. The reason you don't taste it as often, besides the correlation above, is because butane brulee torches have a much finer control over their fuel ratio since they are specifically designed for food. The flame is also smaller so it is harder to touch the still mixing gases to the food before they get a chance to combust. So I guess the takeaway here is use whichever you want, just make sure a Propane/MAPP torch doesn't have a lovely tip on it.
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May 5, 2021 19:42
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I have also seared steak with a MAPP(ish) torch. Tasted fine. (I inadvertently left this out of the earlier post, the creme brulee tasted fine too.) Neither tasted like rear end. Basically this: um excuse me posted:So I guess the takeaway here is use whichever you want, just make sure a Propane/MAPP torch doesn't have a lovely tip on it.
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May 5, 2021 19:47
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Thumposaurus posted:Pretty much every professional kitchen I've worked in (including Michelin star rated places) has used some flavor of the old reliable bingo, thats the one
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May 5, 2021 21:50
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Yep, if you need a propane trigger torch, the TS8000 is the only one worth getting. It's either that or oldschool brass and a sparker.
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May 5, 2021 22:14
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I have this little guy that lives in my tool bag and it’s been fine. I like that it resists getting pressed on while smashed in there and doesn’t fill my bag with butane.
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May 5, 2021 23:45
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I need to cut off some of the plastic running boards and front bumper on my SUV. The manufacturer for the half bumper recommends an angle grinder with a cutting wheel, but a few people have said an oscillating multi-tool works better with less hot plastic flying everywhere. Should the M12 multi-tool be able to handle this, or do I need to upgrade to the M18? I already have M12 batteries so that's a lot cheaper, however if I mess up the bumper while cutting because the M12 won't work well then it would be cheaper to just buy a M18 tool + battery. I'm not opposed to joining the M18 collection anyway, but I haven't needed to do it yet. Video of the cuts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU5wb1X6ZiA
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May 6, 2021 00:06
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I use my bosch 12v cutter all the time. I can't imagine an m12 wouldn't be plenty.
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May 6, 2021 00:18
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M12 OMT should do just fine there. The only time mine has protested was when I used it to flush-cut a bunch of screws (and burned through at least three blades in the process).
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May 6, 2021 00:21
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I recently bought the M12 OMT and have been cutting holes in a ton of plastic. The only thing I'd say - an angle grinder is going to be a fuckton faster, but the OMT is going to be much more likely to make a clean cut.
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May 6, 2021 01:48
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Torch chat: Here is my little torch I use for cooking. Pretty much exclusively for Creme brulee but also the odd other thing. It's butane but never noticed any weird taste. Might be a little small for starting charcoal but I suspect it could work. 6" OAL
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May 6, 2021 04:05
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slidebite posted:Torch chat: Here is my little torch I use for cooking. Pretty much exclusively for Creme brulee but also the odd other thing . It's butane but never noticed any weird taste. Oh yeah I forgot I have one for dabs.
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May 6, 2021 04:25
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Actual tool chat. Finally got to use my Ryobi cordless impact for the first time in like a year or so today. Forgot how much easier it makes a lot of jobs, though it always giving off a burnt electrical smell (since day 1). Cheap source for tool-only Ryobi 18V ONE+ stuff (refurb is fine - and I've been watching pawn shops + Goodwill), or should I just pull the trigger and switch to Kobalt? I can get an employee discount on Kobalt (10%), and the only Ryobi stuff I have so far is a 1/2" impact - but Ryobi seems a lot more common to find used. My immediate need is a cordless drill (primarily for polishing car lights for now - Matrix needs it bad, the JDM lights for Brokeback need both inside and outside of the covers done.... may just swap covers from the USDM halogens at this point). I don't know how long a cordless drill will last with that though. um excuse me posted:My parents growing up would start the grill with lighting fluid. My childhood was filled with the farting noises a can of nearly empty lighting fluid made. "HOW IS THIS SAFE OH GOD," I thought as flames licked the side of the house. When I bought my first house I bought an old fashioned kettle and a coal chimney and never looked back. At my last place, the first time I fired up the grill (in the backyard, which was nothing but dry grass - but I had a 8x8 concrete pad to use)...... and I probably used a bit too much lighter fluid - I may have lost some arm hair from the FWOOM. But I had it a safe distance from the house, had a hose next to me, steaks and burgers ready to go, etc. The fire department showed up. Neighbor behind me called 911 and claimed my house was on fire.  They at least were cool about it, and told me "she is most definitely NOT a frequent flier with bullshit complaints to both fire and PD, no sir  , but can we get your phone # to verify in case she calls again?". They complimented me on having water readily available if things got out of control.I made sure to do a few more pyro demonstrations for her (which always resulted in my phone ringing, FD asking if I was grilling, me saying yup) before just taking the grill to the front driveway. Which resulted in neighbors asking what I was cooking and if they could hang out.  (I learned from my stepdad... a whole bottle of fluid isn't enough, according to him - you haven't used enough until you burn your eyebrows off from tossing a match at the grill from 10 feet away) randomidiot fucked around with this message at 04:45 on May 6, 2021 |
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May 6, 2021 04:40
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No matter what size you buy, all lighter fluid comes in a single-serving container.
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May 6, 2021 05:58
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sweet, M12 OMT it is. I also like the idea of a cleaner cut, and speed is not an issue at all, I'd prefer a slower speed so I don't mess it up too bad.
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slidebite posted:Torch chat: Here is my little torch I use for cooking. Pretty much exclusively for Creme brulee but also the odd other thing. It's butane but never noticed any weird taste. I don't own a toaster, so I use mine for making toast sometimes. Also melting cheese if I want cheesey toast but don't feel like firing up a skillet
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May 6, 2021 16:20
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Comedy option, a tablespoon of gas from your motorcycles tank and a book of matches
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May 6, 2021 16:35
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Grainger just canceled my order for that m18 electric impact that got posted a while back.
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May 6, 2021 22:36
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fknlo posted:Grainger just canceled my order for that m18 electric impact that got posted a while back. FUCKERS
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May 6, 2021 22:46
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supposedly the super old-school european trained cooks used an iron sallamander that got kept under the broiler, but its easy to see how handling a five hundred degree piece of iron plate fell out of favor to a torch
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fknlo posted:Grainger just canceled my order for that m18 electric impact that got posted a while back.
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May 7, 2021 02:53
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If you were ever going to buy a set of Wera Jokers, I think this is the best price I've seen: https://www.kctoolco.com/tool-of-the-day/
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drat, already sold out. I have a single 10mm Joker and it's very nice.
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May 7, 2021 20:12
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You can still order them! They always allow backorders and generally still ship them pretty quickly.
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May 7, 2021 20:19
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oh right, it even says that on the page. I was looking for an add to cart button but you just have to click on the item name.
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May 7, 2021 20:53
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A small list that I'm interested if anyone can expand: tools that we buy cheap when we're young and realize we should spend more on because the expensive versions are worth it. Welding hoods Screwdrivers Ratchets And a lot of things that I think might be subjective.
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Ratchets - My bang/buck recommendation is Williams. They make the Snap on ratchets and can be had at a fraction of the price. They are excellent.
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StormDrain posted:A small list that I'm interested if anyone can expand: tools that we buy cheap when we're young and realize we should spend more on because the expensive versions are worth it. Pretty much any grinding/sanding consumable Tool storage (not saying buy a snap on box, just get better organized as things expand) Tiny spare parts. I have so many kits of plastic scrivets, o rings, zerks, etc as appropriate for what I have around that need them. Hardware. Just get a basic assortment of metric/imperial so you're not constantly going to the hardware store. Specialty tools: yes, you really do need 4 or 5 different kind of bolt extractors.
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Don't cheap out on miter saws. Double bevel slider 12 inch saw is what even a casual wood worker needs. I hate flipping boards to get that last inch or two and needing to sand until the cut lines are straight with each other. They cost a small fortune but are worth it since they also last forever.
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StormDrain posted:A small list that I'm interested if anyone can expand: tools that we buy cheap when we're young and realize we should spend more on because the expensive versions are worth it.  My list: consumables like sawzall blades and grinding discs that won't give you cancer. Or at least lesser cancers. tap and dies. My harbor freight set is downright awful and it's better to buy them individually as you need them. Drill bits. Holy poo poo I suffered with some awful big box store bits for way too long. slidebite posted:Ratchets - My bang/buck recommendation is Williams. They make the Snap on ratchets and can be had at a fraction of the price. They are excellent. Totally. Got 3/8" and 1/2" used ones from my dad from yard sale scores and they're excellent. Way better engagement than any old craftsman ones I'd used previously. My go to every time and they've been great for 10+ years now, plus however old they were when I got them 2nd (or 3rd+) hand. Suburban Dad fucked around with this message at 01:57 on May 8, 2021 |
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Suburban Dad posted:I've still yet to realize that my craftsman screwdrivers are less than "good enough." Probably when I hold a nice one for the first time I will, but I'm still too young I guess. OK well whomever is your secret Santa knows exactly what to get you. I mean you can't go full dad until you have a "good screwdriver". drat it Jimmy I told you to put the good screwdriver back where you found it! Oh poo poo this screw is hosed get me the good screwdriver. Plus you're looking at a $30 investment and who doesn't need extra screwdrivers. I should start a tool church. Or cult.
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