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P-Mack posted:What's the upside to being a cf carrier? some bacteria depend on thin mucus to successfully proliferate and one copy of the cf mutation still thickens your mucus noticeably
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Tunicate posted:Most noticable individual adaptations are probably CF, Sickle Cell, and lactose tolerance, just because the first two come with a very obvious downside when on both chromosomes. Wait, what the hell comes of two copies of the gene for lactose tolerance?
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xthetenth posted:Wait, what the hell comes of two copies of the gene for lactose tolerance? "The first two" Comedy option: Annihilation reaction on contact with cheese.
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xthetenth posted:Wait, what the hell comes of two copies of the gene for lactose tolerance? OwlFancier posted:"The first two" like that pi mod who farted so much that her parrot started to make farting noises
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OwlFancier posted:"The first two" Looks like I got two of the loving tired chromosome!
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I've been listening to some lectures on the Black Death and never knew that about 10% of Europeans have a resistance to HIV from a mutation that some of the survivors passed on, and a smaller percentage are immune. Nobody knows why that would be selected for, but it's one of the arguments made by those who think it wasn't/wasn't exclusively the plague bacillus that caused the pandemic.
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Disinterested posted:IIRC Africans likewise have adaptations against osteoporosis Europeans don't. Africans south of the Sahara also have a much higher resistance to malaria. Which is why slavery really took off in the Americas since while indentured servants where much cheaper they just kept dying working the plantations while most African slaves were resistant from childhood, 1493 goes into details about it.
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:Africans south of the Sahara also have a much higher resistance to malaria. Which is why slavery really took off in the Americas since while indentured servants where much cheaper they just kept dying working the plantations while most African slaves were resistant from childhood, 1493 goes into details about it. Indentured servants also would run and blend into society much easier. It's a small but important part of it.
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Probably a dumb question, and may have already been asked. Did the Romans say "gently caress" or the equivalent? Like would a Centurion be heard telling one of his guys "keep your loving head down!" But in Latin?
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Jul 25, 2017 02:52
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HEY GAIL posted:it's gossip and high-school level drama One of my favorite anthropological anecdotes comes from Colin Turnbull's ethnology of the Mbuti hunter-gatherers of central Africa. A married couple in his village got in a terrible row screaming and yelling at one another. It was so bad the wife started taking down the thatch from their roof and packing her things to go home to her parents, the traditional symbolic gesture for an irreversible divorce. But right then at the last moment both of them clearly started to have second thoughts, both weeping, but both were too proud to put the house back together and make up. Until one of the village women suddenly cried out "Oh! I see you are taking the thatch down to wash out the ants. Let us help  " and the whole village took the thatch down to the river and fassidiously washed out the fictional ants before putting it back together and pretending that was all anyone ever intended 
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MrMojok posted:Probably a dumb question, and may have already been asked. Romans certainly cursed, and probably quite a lot -- they had a proud tradition of obscene poetry. "gently caress" ("futuo") was well used and had a number of interesting derivatives, just like English "gently caress", but as far as I know the general intensifying adjectival sense that English has was not among them. They didn't have any equivalent to the "gently caress you" sense of the word either, again as far as I'm aware (Catullus, when poetically threatening to assfuck and facefuck his critics Aurelius and Furius, uses the more specific verbs "pedicabo" and "irrumabo"). I don't have any source to confirm this but I suspect a centurion haranguing a soldier would have called them a oval office (cunnus) or dick (mentula or verpa).
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Wow, thank you for the detailed (and quick) response!
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MrMojok posted:Probably a dumb question, and may have already been asked. Also, they haven't been able to un-fuse the audio tapes from Herculaneum. Our evidence for what the average Roman would have said is really really spotty.
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homullus posted:Also, they haven't been able to un-fuse the audio tapes from Herculaneum. Our evidence for what the average Roman would have said is really really spotty. You can just use pottery as a natural record right? 
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oval office and gently caress are two of the hardest expletives to deal with in translation, I find. gently caress because it's such a versatile word in English, and oval office because it's so vile in English but often the best equivalent in another language isn't nearly as bad as the English word. poo poo, on the other hand, tends to be the same sort of mild curse across languages.
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fishmech posted:
Is this from an academic source or a publically-available one? Translated graffiti would make for a great work or bathroom read.
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Jul 25, 2017 08:23
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Just google Pompeii graffiti, there's all kinds of lists with translations.
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Squalid posted:One of my favorite anthropological anecdotes comes from Colin Turnbull's ethnology of the Mbuti hunter-gatherers of central Africa. A married couple in his village got in a terrible row screaming and yelling at one another. It was so bad the wife started taking down the thatch from their roof and packing her things to go home to her parents, the traditional symbolic gesture for an irreversible divorce. But right then at the last moment both of them clearly started to have second thoughts, both weeping, but both were too proud to put the house back together and make up. Until one of the village women suddenly cried out "Oh! I see you are taking the thatch down to wash out the ants. Let us help That sort of extremely involved thing makes me wonder whether it's a known face-saving formula or if it was just a clever idea by the other villager in the spur of the moment. Though I suspect most of the former start as the latter.
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Grand Fromage posted:oval office and gently caress are two of the hardest expletives to deal with in translation, I find. gently caress because it's such a versatile word in English, and oval office because it's so vile in English but often the best equivalent in another language isn't nearly as bad as the English word. Only American English, I think. Maybe Canada too, but on the British Isles and in Australia you can't survive for five minutes unless you call someone or something a oval office.
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Kemper Boyd posted:Only American English, I think. Maybe Canada too, but on the British Isles and in Australia you can't survive for five minutes unless you call someone or something a oval office. Hello hi British person here that is very much uh situational especially in writing 
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Squalid posted:One of my favorite anthropological anecdotes comes from Colin Turnbull's ethnology of the Mbuti hunter-gatherers of central Africa. A married couple in his village got in a terrible row screaming and yelling at one another. It was so bad the wife started taking down the thatch from their roof and packing her things to go home to her parents, the traditional symbolic gesture for an irreversible divorce. But right then at the last moment both of them clearly started to have second thoughts, both weeping, but both were too proud to put the house back together and make up. Until one of the village women suddenly cried out "Oh! I see you are taking the thatch down to wash out the ants. Let us help
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Kemper Boyd posted:Only American English, I think. Maybe Canada too, but on the British Isles and in Australia you can't survive for five minutes unless you call someone or something a oval office. as an australian with english relatives who has spent a fair bit of time with them and with other poms i can say for sure they drop waaay less c bombs than an australian
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Yes oval office is basically punctuation in Australia but there's only like three Australians anyway.
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Grand Fromage posted:oval office and gently caress are two of the hardest expletives to deal with in translation, I find. gently caress because it's such a versatile word in English, and oval office because it's so vile in English but often the best equivalent in another language isn't nearly as bad as the English word. "gently caress" being so versatile is a fairly recent thing, isn't it? Isn't it only in the 19th century that it starts being used to mean something other than "have sex with"? Something I think interesting is one of the first appearances of the word in print is from a medieval manuscript as marginalia. The writer is talking about an abbot who broke the vow of celibacy, and writes that he's a "d- loving abbot". He writes out "loving", but considers "damned" too obscene to write out, whereas now, you'd more expect to see the opposite. Epicurius fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Jul 25, 2017 |
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Epicurius posted:"gently caress" being so versatile is a fairly recent thing, isn't it? Isn't it only in the 19th century that it starts being used to mean something other than "have sex with"?
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Epicurius posted:"gently caress" being so versatile is a fairly recent thing, isn't it? Isn't it only in the 19th century that it starts being used to mean something other than "have sex with"? Modern English curses are newish, yeah. David Milch talked about how in the original Deadwood pilot he had characters using period-appropriate foul language and it just sounded absurd and everyone was like Yosemite Sam. Lots of Christianity-based stuff, not as much body functions. So he changed it to inauthentic words like gently caress and cocksucker that would have the appropriate effect on the modern ear.
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the worst thing in the world that one seventeenth-century german soldier can call another is "dog's oval office." "bird" is also up there.
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Apparently one of the rudest words to Romans was "landica". Even the poets don't use it, but when Caesar Divi Filius besieged Antony's wife Fulvia in Perugia, one of his soldiers wrote it on a sling-ball as part of the message "I seek Fulvia's clitoris".
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HEY GAIL posted:the worst thing in the world that one seventeenth-century german soldier can call another is "dog's oval office." This term (hundsfott in german) still exists in Finnish as "hunsvotti", which is an extremely mild phrase meaning "rascal, unruly child"
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Grand Fromage posted:Modern English curses are newish, yeah. David Milch talked about how in the original Deadwood pilot he had characters using period-appropriate foul language and it just sounded absurd and everyone was like Yosemite Sam. Od's blood, what are you talking about?
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I can't take a picture at a better angle because I don't wanna invade the guy's privacy, but I swear that my Uber driver is wearing a modern form of a Phrygian cap. If you would see it from the front there is no doubt about it. Is this a thing that is making a comeback, or is in use in certain cultures? I travel the world and I hadn't seen one before. The guy looks Southeast Asian.
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I think a modern form of a phrygian cap is called a beanie.
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Animal posted:I can't take a picture at a better angle because I don't wanna invade the guy's privacy, but I swear that my Uber driver is wearing a modern form of a Phrygian cap. If you would see it from the front there is no doubt about it. Is this a thing that is making a comeback, or is in use in certain cultures? I travel the world and I hadn't seen one before. The guy looks Southeast Asian. hmm to me it looks like a Sikh guy with his hair tied up in a patka or something instead of a turban, but sure, it could be the thing you said
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Jamwad Hilder posted:hmm to me it looks like a Sikh guy with his hair tied up in a patka or something instead of a turban, but sure, it could be the thing you said No I know Sikhs and this was not that, it was a cap like what a Smurf would wear but black
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Ras Het posted:This term (hundsfott in german) still exists in Finnish as "hunsvotti", which is an extremely mild phrase meaning "rascal, unruly child" Kinda like bugger. HEY GAIL posted:the worst thing in the world that one seventeenth-century german soldier can call another is "dog's oval office." "bird" is also up there. Does "bird" mean a homosexual?
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Black Leaf posted:Does "bird" mean a homosexual?
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HEY GAIL posted:the worst thing in the world that one seventeenth-century german soldier can call another is "dog's oval office." "bird" is also up there. "Dog's oval office" got some spelling upgrades over the centuries, but it's still something which can get you murdered if you say it in the wrong part of town. Strangely enough, calling someone "bird" is also still around, nowadays it's more like calling someone an idiot, though. HEY GAIL posted:good guess, but unlike late 19th century yiddish, surprisingly not! it means a lightminded person, someone who doesn't take things seriously and can't be relied upon. It still means the same! Just looks like people back then took being called dumb really, really serious! Black Leaf posted:Does "bird" mean a homosexual?  Ha ha, oh wow. As a German, seeing someone aiming that far off target is kind of funny, even if it's not your fault.
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Libluini posted:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/feygele#English
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HEY GAIL posted:yiddish and german are related but not identical, it seems Also, my personal knowledge of yiddish is zero, so everything related to that will just pass me by. Like, it will orbit Earth over my head, so far away is it from my personal experience.
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