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The fact that this thing you're supposed to operate while driving has no physical controls that you could easily operate hands-free really pisses me off. I'm aware that they have voice commands and steering wheel controls for some things but I just really feel like this entire situation is incredibly stupid e: i'm MAD about car radios (does anyone else remember the "i'm MAD about ___" tags?) InediblePenguin has a new favorite as of 00:24 on Aug 17, 2018 |
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InediblePenguin posted:So far this month alone we've seen two vehicles that wouldn't start and wouldn't shift, respectively, and the solution was replacing the radios -- but at least the fuckin doors still opened, Christ Grounding's fun. I had an iPac USB board hooked up to an arcade cabinet and it wouldn't actually work with the monitor unless I plugged in the standard PS/2 keyboard cable to ground the signal.
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Aug 17, 2018 00:34
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Plinkey posted:Standard DIN radios in cars are obsolete, that's why replacing stuff is a bitch now. You'd be surprised how many cars have kits available. A dash kit used to be a trim ring and a couple of brackets but now you basically get a new center panel with a din hole. Not for my stupid car though. Check this poo poo out.  That's my actual car. The top set of controls is the radio and the auto climate control is below that. You'd think it would be pretty simple to pop in a new head unit but nope. Not with that climate control. The electronics for everything are in the actual stereo part. It's possible to do but you have to import the dash kit from Japan and buy a special wiring harness that some dude on the Subaru forums makes. $300 for the kit and $50 for the wiring. gently caress that. If you got the standard 3 knob HVAC controls crutchfield will give you the kit for free.
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Aug 17, 2018 06:23
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Lots of cars are like that now. If you think yours is bad check out mine  The audio controls are down near the gear shifter and the same system deals with settings for all sorts of stuff. Even if you could sort that there isn't anywhere to physically install a normal DIN sized stereo.
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Aug 17, 2018 07:13
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I have a 20 year old Opel with a tape deck. It's amazing.
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Aug 17, 2018 07:20
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Grumbletron 4000 posted:You'd be surprised how many cars have kits available. A dash kit used to be a trim ring and a couple of brackets but now you basically get a new center panel with a din hole. Not for my stupid car though. Check this poo poo out. You just aren't trying hard enough - I did a dash swap from series 1 commodore to series 2 the hard way (and didn't find the completely obvious goggle result for a modding forum pretty much dedicated to this particular task)
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Aug 17, 2018 09:38
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InediblePenguin posted:e: i'm MAD about car radios Thank you sir for that flashback, five golden manbabies etc.
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Aug 17, 2018 10:10
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It's amazing how, in 2018, our most advanced technology looks like a crappy third-party theme for Windows XP. I'm not sure how I'm able to survive right now without being able to check my email using my car.
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Aug 17, 2018 18:47
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pretty soon they'll just offload all the car's electronics to an app for your phone
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Aug 17, 2018 18:54
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InediblePenguin posted:The fact that this thing you're supposed to operate while driving has no physical controls that you could easily operate hands-free really pisses me off. I'm aware that they have voice commands and steering wheel controls for some things but I just really feel like this entire situation is incredibly stupid While you are driving you shouldn't be operating anything but the steering wheel, turn signals, headlights, windshield wipers, accelerator or brakes.
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Aug 17, 2018 18:57
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boar guy posted:pretty soon they'll just offload all the car's electronics to an app for your phone  I'm sorry sir, but it's against the law to use your car while driving. 
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Aug 17, 2018 19:15
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boar guy posted:pretty soon they'll just offload all the car's electronics to an app for your phone I actually can't wait for cars that unload the whole infotainment poo poo into either a USBc or Bluetooth connection from my phone to my car stereo.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:16
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Shifty Nipples posted:While you are driving you shouldn't be operating anything but the steering wheel, turn signals, headlights, windshield wipers, accelerator or brakes. Do you honestly believe the majority of drivers would take seriously an injunction to never change the radio station without pulling over first
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Aug 17, 2018 20:13
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InediblePenguin posted:Do you honestly believe the majority of drivers would take seriously an injunction to never change the radio station without pulling over first They still text and drive after how many years of warnings and laws against it?
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Aug 17, 2018 20:18
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Pingiivi posted:I have a 20 year old Opel with a tape deck. It's amazing. I don't think there's anything amazing about a 20 year old Opel
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Aug 17, 2018 20:59
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Ruflux posted:I don't think there's anything amazing about a 20 year old Opel You don’t think the longest running Opel ever isn’t amazing? I have no idea if Opels are bad cars. I had a Saturn that was a rebadged Opel and I liked it. But you know...GM...
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Aug 17, 2018 21:03
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Shifty Nipples posted:While you are driving you shouldn't be operating anything but the steering wheel, turn signals, headlights, windshield wipers, accelerator or brakes. Got it. I'll stop using the clutch, gearshift lever, cruise control, windshield squirters, window defrosters, and rear-view mirror dimmer switch immediately.
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Aug 17, 2018 21:06
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Powered Descent posted:Got it. I'll stop using the clutch, gearshift lever, cruise control, windshield squirters, window defrosters, and rear-view mirror dimmer switch immediately. You'll be joining about 80% of the people on the roads already.
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Aug 17, 2018 21:13
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Krispy Wafer posted:You don’t think the longest running Opel ever isn’t amazing? I dunno about bad in the sense of being bad to drive, but they were ugly, extremely spartan when it came to standard equipment and horribly unreliable, plagued with electrical issues especially. There's a reason the brand has such a poor reputation, they made some terrible-rear end cars in the 90s when every other manufacturer was making better and more reliable ones. I mean, not that I wouldn't take a 90s Opel over an equal age Toyota because reliability doesn't really matter if the driving characteristics of the alternative are downright hazardous, but still.
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Aug 17, 2018 21:13
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Iron Crowned posted:They still text and drive after how many years of warnings and laws against it? good point. but it's not even illegal to turn the radio on while driving so like what definition of "supposed to" are we even using though
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Aug 18, 2018 00:53
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Once again, Techmoan finds some weird-rear end electronic device I've never heard of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ll-o4JttQk
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Aug 18, 2018 00:56
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Plinkey posted:Just for fun I looked up replacement units for my car. Does the adapter cost nearly/as much as the head unit you want to use with it?
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Aug 18, 2018 02:13
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Ruflux posted:I dunno about bad in the sense of being bad to drive, but they were ugly, extremely spartan when it came to standard equipment and horribly unreliable, plagued with electrical issues especially. There's a reason the brand has such a poor reputation, they made some terrible-rear end cars in the 90s when every other manufacturer was making better and more reliable ones. All I know is that nearly every single Opel that's rebadged and brought to the U.S. winds up becoming a flop. The Opel Omega that was rebadged into a Cadillac turned out to be one of those.
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Aug 18, 2018 02:13
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Were they really that bad? My parents had a bunch of Opels in the 90's and I don't remember too much trouble with them - but I was a kid so what do I know. I think they had a couple Kadetts, a Vectra, and an Omega throughout that decade.
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Aug 18, 2018 02:34
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Geoj posted:Does the adapter cost nearly/as much as the head unit you want to use with it? The whole bottom unit is like 389.99 shipped from China. It has bluetooth built in so it should be able to nativly hook up to my ODB2 BT adapter. The ODB2 bluetooth things are cheap, like $10 or so. https://www.amazon.com/Panlong-Blue...GWKAPMMTHTGY1QC
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Aug 18, 2018 02:41
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pseudorandom posted:It's amazing how, in 2018, our most advanced technology looks like a crappy third-party theme for Windows XP. I wanted a double DIN touchscreen thing for my car, but literally every one of them has an interface designed by the same guy who did your Winamp skins in 1999. Look at this clusterfuck: 
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Aug 18, 2018 04:08
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RC and Moon Pie posted:There was one good thing about the car. Ford used to include a demo cassette to show off the speakers' capabilities. It was a pretty good selection of songs and they continued to hold on to it after the car was dumped. I'm fairly certain we got this demo tape when we got a Taurus wagon in like 88 or 89. https://www.discogs.com/Various-Ford-Audio-System-Demonstration-Tape/release/8152802 Kind of a downgrade but I remember thinking holy poo poo, smart fast forward? Automatic side switching? The future is HERE, baby
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Aug 18, 2018 07:36
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TotalLossBrain posted:Were they really that bad? My parents had a bunch of Opels in the 90's and I don't remember too much trouble with them - but I was a kid so what do I know. I think they had a couple Kadetts, a Vectra, and an Omega throughout that decade. They weren't bad, they were cheap and simple cars. Every model line usually had a fun sporty model available with a (for Europe) big engine. They had a real serious motorsport pedigree, and performance parts were easily available. They would develop huge rust holes quickly no matter what you did, and the people who bought them were mostly senior citizens who had driven Opel all their life, or young people who wanted the sporty models. Nobody aged between 28-59 drove an opel. And then there was the Lotus Omega.
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Aug 18, 2018 22:14
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Horace posted:I wanted a double DIN touchscreen thing for my car, but literally every one of them has an interface designed by the same guy who did your Winamp skins in 1999. Look at this clusterfuck: PREACH. Trying to find head unit that's not loving embarrassing is an exercise in futility. I posted in the AI Car Audio Q&A thread when I was trying to replace the AM/FM Radio Cassette unit in my 2000 Jaguar - which left the factory looking like this:  I gave up. The solution is a lovely Pioneer head unit, and I'm designing a 3D printed bracket to replace the stock one which will accommodate a little walnut burl door that flips down to cover it up.
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Aug 18, 2018 23:15
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sarcastx posted:PREACH. Is that phone keypad how you called people if you were rich in the year 2000? Back when people actually remembered each other's telephone numbers.
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Aug 18, 2018 23:21
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sarcastx posted:PREACH. And it’s been hosed for a long time and never gets better. I posted on these very forums in 2005-ish about my fruitless quest to find a non-Tokyo-by-night-looking stereo for my ‘95 Cadillac, with no resolution then, either. Like, with all the vehicles out there, there’s not a single car audio company that can make even one or two sedate-looking head units? It seems ridiculous to me, since there’s obviously a demand for it.
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Aug 18, 2018 23:27
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JnnyThndrs posted:And it’s been hosed for a long time and never gets better. I posted on these very forums in 2005-ish about my fruitless quest to find a non-Tokyo-by-night-looking stereo for my ‘95 Cadillac, with no resolution then, either. I'm sure I've posted it before but Blaupunkt head units were the most sedate thing I could find for my old Crown Vic. It didn't look too out of place, even in the fake woodgrain dash. That was about 5 years ago, though, so I don't know what their current lineup is like.
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Aug 18, 2018 23:33
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https://www.continental-automotive.com/en-gl/Trucks-Buses/Interior-Cabin/Infotainment/Radios/DAB-Radio-with-CD-USB-Bluetooth This is the best looking sedate radio nowadays. Expensive, but still available.
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Aug 18, 2018 23:38
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Give me one of those with RGB adjustable back lighting and Bluetooth connectivity and I wouldn't care if it's expensive.
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Aug 19, 2018 00:18
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Krispy Wafer posted:Is that phone keypad how you called people if you were rich in the year 2000? Remember when car phones came with a sim slot? I was never sure if you were supposed to a) pay for a second, expensive phoen contract and deal with people never knowing which number to call you one and having 2 sets of phonebooks to keep updated or b) have to turn off your phone, remove sim, insert into car for every journey, then do the reverse at the destination.
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Aug 19, 2018 00:21
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All the phones I used in that period had "Call Divert" as a prominent menu option, maybe for that purpose.
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Aug 19, 2018 03:23
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You can (and could) duplicate Sim cards. Just can't have both sync at once, so powering one off was an option.
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Krispy Wafer posted:My kid’s new radio wouldn’t boot up and I was all pissed at Crutchfield and they were like, “maybe it’s the ground. Attach it this other part of the car.” And I’m bitching the whole time I’m disassembling the head unit again about how there’s no way the ground is causing this and sure enough it was. Speaking of grounding. (For reference, I was driving a '94 Dodge Neon. ) Once, in the middle of winter, I drove to the gas station on my way to work. When I went to start the car again, it did nothing. When I turned the key, high beams indicator came on. When I hit the brake, the high beams indicator came on. When I pressed any switch in the car, the high beams indicator came on. That was the only thing it would do. Even the radio just turned on the high beams indicator. I checked the chassis ground, the engine ground, and cleaned the terminals. No dice. I walked back to my apartment, about a half mile away, and called my mechanic in my home town. He said, "You know, I did a head gasket the other day and I had a car do the same thing. It was a secondary ground wire for the computer that connects to the body at the front of the chassis near the battery. It doesn't look like anything, but I cleaned it and tightened it and the car started." I walked back, and fixed non-running car with just a Phillips head screw driver. Always check your grounds. Even if they look meaningless. Not sure why Chrysler made it work that way, but they had to actively put in a relay that doesn't allow anything to work without a secondary computer ground. Headlights did work fine. At least that was still a pure mechanical connection. But seriously... Disable the starter? I'm cool with it not firing, but at least let the starter turn over.
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evobatman posted:They weren't bad, they were cheap and simple cars. Every model line usually had a fun sporty model available with a (for Europe) big engine. They had a real serious motorsport pedigree, and performance parts were easily available. They would develop huge rust holes quickly no matter what you did, and the people who bought them were mostly senior citizens who had driven Opel all their life, or young people who wanted the sporty models. Nobody aged between 28-59 drove an opel.
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The Calibra was just a Vectra coupe and every bit as dreary - it did look cool from the outside but drove just the same and had exactly the same interior. Current Astras are actually pretty good, I think I'd take one over a Focus.
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