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robotsinmyhead
Nov 29, 2005

Dude, they oughta call you Piledriver!

Clever Betty

nsaP posted:

That's been my experience so far as well. Any that are close are all fairly new and out of my range, and all the 05/06s are a long way away.

Could you post the link to his ad that you saw tho? Just wondering if there is anything else there.

I can't find it now. Looks like he took it down.

edit: Found It

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Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

nsaP posted:

Thanks for the advice, I'd been waiting on a z3n post :).

I might not have been clear between the copy/pastes between the two threads. Originally I was looking for a 250 for my sister, and I'm still doing that. I had planned to trade one FZ6 and keep the other one. I just happened to have this guy offer me a DRZ, so it looks like I might trade the 2nd fz6 for that.

What should I look out for in terms of looking at the bike? Is there a guide earlier in the thread or just drz specific things to look out for? Valve checks and such?

Well, differences between the FZ6 and the DRZ aside, there's not really much specific that goes wrong with DRZs. Make sure it still has oil in it, as thumpers have a tendency to burn oil under freeway use, and sometimes people won't check, and that'll really kill the engine life as they only have 1.8 liters of oil anyways. Valve checks are every 15.5k, so most of the time a first owner bike won't make it to that. Flatslides are good, big tanks are good, all other mods are marginal.

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


Z3n posted:

all other mods are marginal.

Brake upgrades are very welcome

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Spiffness posted:

Brake upgrades are very welcome

Supermoto: Because honestly, if you need 2 fingers to do a stoppie you should probably just do it right and get a big brake kit.

epix
Aug 7, 2004
Picked up a lightly used supermoto setup for my DR650, came with quite a bit of extra's. Haven't installed anything yet but the package included:

Sun supermoto wheels (4.25" rear/3.5" front)
Kenda K270 knobbies (PO had these installed when I bought them 4.70 front/5.10 rear)
Michelin Power Race tires (160 rear/120 front - 70% tread left)
Cush Drive & Sprocket
EBC 320mm Rotor and relocation bracket
Rear stock rotor

I'm thinking of putting the Michelin's on but are the Power Race too much for just plain street/commute use? Thinking of selling them off and picking up the Power Pilots instead after I wear out the Kenda's.

What street tires do you guys like, would like to have a little bit of dual sport use left if possible incase I hop on a gravel road or light trail occasionally. For more heavy duty offroad use I have a dedicated offroad tire on my stock wheelset.






Just playing around:


Also got a new rear shock; Cogent rebuild:


cmorrow001, you still in Kzoo? I'm down in Sturgis.

epix fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Jun 21, 2011

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Which power races are they?

epix
Aug 7, 2004

Z3n posted:

Which power races are they?

Not sure, didn't know they made different sub-models, but they look just like these:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/28/394/6168/ITEM/Michelin-Power-Race-Rear-Tire.aspx

I threw them in my storage unit so don't have immediate access to them right now.

soy
Jul 7, 2003

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Speaking of mods/wrenching. I need some kinda cargo solution for the DRZ.

Also, it came with a pretty cool looking LED rear light attachment but I need to install it... and it didn't some with anything that looks like it mounts the OEM rear turn signals... Do those mount on something separately?

Also came with a MOTY design battery pre installed and the CA emissions thing removed. The battery is pretty nice, its like the size of an RC car battery.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?

Phat_Albert posted:

When you see the PO of a sumo wheelieing it in a picture, that just means they cared about it.

I know, that's what I'm sayin'. I even told him that in email correspondance haha. Something along the lines of "if it way any other bike I'd immediately cease communication, but since it's a DRZ you're up a notch in my book.

I keep excitedly talking to my dad about the potential DRZ, he keeps telling me about how all them "dual sports" did everything but nothing well and were slow on the highway and the "dirt bike motors wear faster".

He's like a record on repeat that restarts every time I say "It's not a dirtbike." For the love of god the old man rode in the 70s until he picked it up again a few years back.

"Newer motor than the ones you ran dad, street suspension, smaller wheels, street tires, strong front brake, street gearing"

He pops in: You can't really ride on the highway tho, I mean you can but your pinned.

"I don't ride on the highway."

I don't know what to do with him, haha. He seems gutted I'm trading bikes but all his reasons are wrong or reasons /he/ wouldn't want one.

They'll be one in the drive soon enough if all goes well regardless, and I think he'll turn around when he realizes it's not a loving '78 dual sport.

My goal is to get the old man to wheelie. All of us should try for it.

nsaP fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Jun 21, 2011

henne
May 9, 2009

by exmarx
New pads in and bedded, bike stops like a motherfucker now. Quite a bit more brake drag though. Anyway to get the pistons to retract farther? I had issues when installing the pads because the pistons wouldn't stay retracted long enough to get the pads in and on the rotor. They'd sit 1/16-1/8" out of the housing.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


nsaP posted:

I know, that's what I'm sayin'. I even told him that in email correspondance haha. Something along the lines of "if it way any other bike I'd immediately cease communication, but since it's a DRZ you're up a notch in my book.

I keep excitedly talking to my dad about the potential DRZ, he keeps telling me about how all them "dual sports" did everything but nothing well and were slow on the highway and the "dirt bike motors wear faster".

He's like a record on repeat that restarts every time I say "It's not a dirtbike." For the love of god the old man rode in the 70s until he picked it up again a few years back.

"Newer motor than the ones you ran dad, street suspension, smaller wheels, street tires, strong front brake, street gearing"

He pops in: You can't really ride on the highway tho, I mean you can but your pinned.

"I don't ride on the highway."

I don't know what to do with him, haha. He seems gutted I'm trading bikes but all his reasons are wrong or reasons /he/ wouldn't want one.

They'll be one in the drive soon enough if all goes well regardless, and I think he'll turn around when he realizes it's not a loving '78 dual sport.

My goal is to get the old man to wheelie. All of us should try for it.

My Dad was the same way until I made him ride the DRZ. He came back into the driveway in a wheelie and said I was right.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




epix posted:

Also got a new rear shock; Cogent rebuild:


Nice, Rick from cogent does good work.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

henne posted:

New pads in and bedded, bike stops like a motherfucker now. Quite a bit more brake drag though. Anyway to get the pistons to retract farther? I had issues when installing the pads because the pistons wouldn't stay retracted long enough to get the pads in and on the rotor. They'd sit 1/16-1/8" out of the housing.

Have you checked that the reservoir isn't overfull?

soy
Jul 7, 2003

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

NitroSpazzz posted:

My Dad was the same way until I made him ride the DRZ. He came back into the driveway in a wheelie and said I was right.

I don't get what people are saying all this poo poo about the DRZ on the highway. I rode close to 50 miles just after buying the thing at 75-80mph... and I was one below top gear. It wasn't bad at all.

Maybe it's because I'm 6'5" and 240lbs, could be stabilizing the bike a bit. The guy who owned before me complained about highways but he was a pretty small person.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
I think it's just people pointing out the weaknesses of different bikes as if you aren't already aware.

"You know you have lean way forward on those crotch rockets"

"That cruiser is nice but it can't keep up in the twisties"

Anyway, I've been chatting the guy up more and feeling pretty good about it. He seems to be a trustworthy guy and is even willing to come to me since I have two potential bikes. Excitement rising....

def snow leppard
Sep 12, 2010

Holy poo poo, after over a year of watching classifieds, there's finally a DRZ for sale in my area!
Here's the ad:
http://manitoba.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-motorcycles-dirt-bikes-motocross-for-sale-2008-Suzuki-DR-Z400sm-street-legal-W0QQAdIdZ292250013

The only problem is I can tell by the way he describes the bike that he's gonna want way to much for it.

Edit: Emailed him and he replied back. Says he wants $5500 but is open to offers. Any opinions?

def snow leppard fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jun 21, 2011

jdonz
Jan 4, 2004

Be careful, Canadian DRZs that have been modded have been known to explode.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Clank posted:

Holy poo poo, after over a year of watching classifieds, there's finally a DRZ for sale in my area!
Here's the ad:
http://manitoba.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-motorcycles-dirt-bikes-motocross-for-sale-2008-Suzuki-DR-Z400sm-street-legal-W0QQAdIdZ292250013

The only problem is I can tell by the way he describes the bike that he's gonna want way to much for it.

Edit: Emailed him and he replied back. Says he wants $5500 but is open to offers. Any opinions?

Isn't your market horribly inflated?

cmorrow001
Feb 22, 2003
apparently I shouldn't ask about pirating Windows

epix posted:


cmorrow001, you still in Kzoo? I'm down in Sturgis.

Yeah, my DRZ is having starting issues right now but I'm hopnig to have it up and running in a week or 2. Shoot me a email, I'd be down for a ride. username @ gmail

Kenny Rogers
Sep 7, 2007

Chapter One:
When I first saw Sparky, he reminded me of my favorite comb. He was missing a lot of teeth.
Until I have the money for a 17/17 setup, what would be the go to tires for 100% street use on an 18/21 DRZ?

Synonamess Botch
Jun 5, 2006

dicks are for my cat
Been working backing it in on my way to work. I've only done it a half dozen or so but I haven't felt anything like skipping, just smooth gliding. Is squealing OK? Alternatively is rapid off-on squealing OK if the back tire still feels like it's moving smoothly?

FuzzyWuzzyBear
Sep 8, 2003

Synonamess Botch posted:

Been working backing it in on my way to work. I've only done it a half dozen or so but I haven't felt anything like skipping, just smooth gliding. Is squealing OK? Alternatively is rapid off-on squealing OK if the back tire still feels like it's moving smoothly?

Squealing is going to happen since you're spinning up your rear, so that's fine. It's hard to say whether "rapid on-off" squealing is normal or not, but if it feels alright then it probably is okay. In my experience backing it in without a slipper clutch, I get pretty consistent squealing and it feels smooth unless i let out the clutch too slow.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Synonamess Botch posted:

Been working backing it in on my way to work. I've only done it a half dozen or so but I haven't felt anything like skipping, just smooth gliding. Is squealing OK? Alternatively is rapid off-on squealing OK if the back tire still feels like it's moving smoothly?

Sounds about right. How far out of line are you getting? It'll only hop when its nearly in line.

def snow leppard
Sep 12, 2010

Z3n posted:

Isn't your market horribly inflated?

Yes, infact I've seen one other DRZ for sale, totalled, and they still wanted $5000 for it.

MrZig
Aug 13, 2005
I exist onl because of Parias'
LEGENDARY GENEROSITY.

Z3n posted:

Sounds about right. How far out of line are you getting? It'll only hop when its nearly in line.

What about the fact that when I rode a Husky 630 I could make the back tire squeal, yet with my super sticky SuperCorsas on the DRZ it never squeals? I definitely back it in but its more of a dragging sound.

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


MrZig posted:

What about the fact that when I rode a Husky 630 I could make the back tire squeal, yet with my super sticky SuperCorsas on the DRZ it never squeals? I definitely back it in but its more of a dragging sound.

That could be entirely tire types. On the KTM the Pirellis we're silent when sliding the rear, but the Maxxis tires I ran would make all sorts of noise, while the feel between the two was the same.

When you do it full on, it sounds sort of like a laser. ZzzzZztzzztzzzztzzzz

Zool
Mar 21, 2005

The motard rap
for all my riders
at the track
Dirt hardpacked
corner workers better
step back

Spiffness posted:

When you do it full on, it sounds sort of like a laser. ZzzzZztzzztzzzztzzzz

In your case, yes. For the rest of us it's more like, how we thought lasers sounded when we were eight.

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


Zool posted:

In your case, yes. For the rest of us it's more like, how we thought lasers sounded when we were eight.

You can take your "pew pew pew!" and march straight the gently caress out of here, weirdo.

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!
Finally sold my loving jeep! I shall join the ranks with you soon, my future motard buddies.

ninjaedit: added a word. Had to type fast because the wife was entering the room. I closed that poo poo like a preteen closes a porn window.

ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib

Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

I closed that poo poo like a preteen closes a porn window.

Easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission, ey? ;)

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

I closed that poo poo like a preteen closes a porn window.

This is the general attitude that supermoto riders have at all times.

soy
Jul 7, 2003

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Hey z3n where did you get/what is the name of your hard luggage thing?

Also it seems like you can re-mount the rear blinkers on different parts of the frame... I'm probably going to do move them this weekend and install the LED rear light. I think I need some extra mounting hardware though, so maybe not. I need to do it sooner than later though as it looks like the rear OEM license/light assembly is pretty hosed up.

I think the engine is pretty much fine as it is, stock. Not like I'll have any cash to mess with it for some time anyways. All these pipes/headers/etc sound expensive, and I'm mechanically retarded, so I think I'll stick to just changing the oil for now.

I noticed on the front LED headlight/HID thing the description says that poo poo is not DOT approved. Is that a wink wink nod nod sort of thing?

soy fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jun 22, 2011

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Clank posted:

Yes, infact I've seen one other DRZ for sale, totalled, and they still wanted $5000 for it.

Around here, a good condition, nicely modded DRZ goes for around 4kish, maybe a bit more. I'd say if you can get it for anything in the 4k range, roughly judging inflation in your market, you'd be good. Other option is seeing if you'd be better off converting a DRZ400S model to SM...you can get wheelsets, brand new, for $1000-1500. Maybe a bit less thanks to the strength of your dollar vs. ours right now. You can find used ones ranging from $500-1000, depending.

soy posted:

Hey z3n where did you get/what is the name of your hard luggage thing?

Also it seems like you can re-mount the rear blinkers on different parts of the frame... I'm probably going to do move them this weekend and install the LED rear light. I think I need some extra mounting hardware though, so maybe not.

I think the engine is pretty much fine as it is, stock. Not like I'll have any cash to mess with it for some time anyways. All these pipes/headers/etc sound expensive, and I'm mechanically retarded, so I think I'll stick to just changing the oil for now.

The hard tailbag? It was a Givi E36 tail bag mounted to a stock rear rack drilled for the givi universal mounting plate.

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!

ReelBigLizard posted:

Easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission, ey? ;)

Haha, well she actually knows I'm wanting one. I just get a dramatic rolling of the eyes when she hears me talk about it. I've proved to her that it's more economical to ride a bike to work. You know, for the MPG (because that's all I'm really concerned with).

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

Haha, well she actually knows I'm wanting one. I just get a dramatic rolling of the eyes when she hears me talk about it. I've proved to her that it's more economical to ride a bike to work. You know, for the MPG (because that's all I'm really concerned with).

I had to give up supermoto commuting due to a threat of arrest and impound.

Enjoy it while you can!

Kenny Rogers
Sep 7, 2007

Chapter One:
When I first saw Sparky, he reminded me of my favorite comb. He was missing a lot of teeth.

Jabs posted:

Until I have the money to spring for a 17/17 setup, what would be the go to tires for 100% street use on an 18/21 DRZ?
Seeing how this its the closest we have to a dedicated DRZ thread...anyone?

needknees
Apr 4, 2006

Oh. My.

Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

Haha, well she actually knows I'm wanting one. I just get a dramatic rolling of the eyes when she hears me talk about it. I've proved to her that it's more economical to ride a bike to work. You know, for the MPG (because that's all I'm really concerned with).

Supermotos are fantastic for economically priced transport, if only for conservation of tires... It's hard to wear them out when there's only one on the ground at any given time! :haw:

needknees fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Jun 23, 2011

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Hmmm..contrary to that, the guy I might be buying one from described his as "the odo died at 8k miles, i'd estimate it at 12k based on the rear tires i've replaced."

Granted the set on there only have 300 he says but I was scared to ask is "tires" was 2 or 3...

:q:

ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib

Jabs posted:

Seeing how this its the closest we have to a dedicated DRZ thread...anyone?

I really like the Avon Distanzias. Good, predictable performance wet or dry and great wear characteristics (no other rear has lasted this long on my 690). They're also good if you do take it off road at some point. On top of it all they look pretty boss.

needknees posted:

Supermotos are fantastic for economically priced transport, if only for conservation of tires... It's hard to wear them out when there's only one on the ground at any given time! :haw:

The rear is the wear tyre. I've got a full wet on the front of mine that has done 3k+, the same tyre on the rear lasted less than 1.5k. The trick is using a sticky front that's good in the rain and finding a reasonably priced, hard wearing rear.

ReelBigLizard fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Jun 23, 2011

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needknees
Apr 4, 2006

Oh. My.

ReelBigLizard posted:

The rear is the wear tyre. I've got a full wet on the front of mine that has done 3k+, the same tyre on the rear lasted less than 1.5k. The trick is using a sticky front that's good in the rain and finding a reasonably priced, hard wearing rear.

That was more a joke alluding to wheelies and stoppies but you're definitely right, they are easy on fronts.

I have a hell of a time keeping heat in front at the track (full road course not sumo track) on my 625 because you just don't need to brake that much. I got about 3500 miles out of a rear Contiforce SM including 4 trackdays and it was TOAST. The front is still going strong.

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