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peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
UBI$HAFT :argh:

That was another one I remember, it goes on like this

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sout
Apr 24, 2014

peter gabriel posted:

UBI$HAFT :argh:

That was another one I remember, it goes on like this

poobisoft

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle

Also as someone who has spent probably >$300 on RS DLC, get RS2014, it's good and fun and even better if you can get it on PC for the boatloads of customs out there.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

sout posted:

poobisoft

:thurman:

sout
Apr 24, 2014

Friend's asking me for good cheap amps, relatively small and preferably below about £100, so a practice amp I guess.
I'm really not much of a tech person, and mostly play casually: even tiny amps seem to go way louder than we'd ever need so it needn't be too powerful.

Any recommendations? I'm sure anything's a step up from that starter kit Fender thing.

edit: don't think multiFX stuff is strictly necessary

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Yeah my age and disposable income situation makes the thought of spending hours goofing around with a driver hack that may or may not ever work right much less attractive than just spending the extra $30

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


sout posted:

Friend's asking me for good cheap amps, relatively small and preferably below about £100, so a practice amp I guess.
I'm really not much of a tech person, and mostly play casually: even tiny amps seem to go way louder than we'd ever need so it needn't be too powerful.

Any recommendations? I'm sure anything's a step up from that starter kit Fender thing.

edit: don't think multiFX stuff is strictly necessary

Convince him to go up to around £150 and get a THR5. Sounds good, is versatile, has a headphone out. The little buggers are like the best quiet practicing thing

e: This thread probably sounds like we've been paid off by Yamaha to recommend that but I swear it's actually good

Shugojin fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Jun 29, 2016

Captain Apollo
Jun 24, 2003

King of the Pilots, CFI
Can confirm. Friend bought a THR and I loved it so much I bought a THR10.

LOVE.

spamman
Jul 11, 2002

Chin up Tiger, There is always next season...
Yep. Have had a THR10 for over two years. Fantastic.

Captain Apollo
Jun 24, 2003

King of the Pilots, CFI
The only thing I wish it had is a metronome. But I guess that's why i have a beat buddy pedal

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

90% of the time I don't even wait for my Orange to warm up, I just plug straight into the THR and jam. They're that good. Recommendation #527 here ya go.

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle

loving hell, I just added it up, and if you include RS1 and the import tool, I've actually spent over $500 on RS DLC. :suicide:

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
Dang for that kind of coin you could've just looked up tabs for their song list to jam along with pirated mp3s and spent the rest of the money on drugs.

It's effectively the same but with way better visual accompaniment.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

comes along bort posted:

Dang for that kind of coin you could've just looked up tabs for their song list to jam along with pirated mp3s and spent the rest of the money on drugs.

It's effectively the same but with way better visual accompaniment.

Today I figured out about 75% of this song on my own, by ear and vague knowledge death metal scale tropes. It gets a little tricky when they do chromatic poo poo but once I figured out it was sorta in F harmonic minor (on a baritone guitar) it fell into place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnzhb0XIK1U

Feels good, man.

ColonelJohnMatrix
Jun 24, 2006

Because all fucking hell is going to break loose

Been out of the computer recording game for quite awhile as I didn't have a pc for the longest time, but recently got a nice desktop setup again so I'm looking for something to plug my guitar into with headphones and wail away/do some light recording. 10 years ago I had a Line6 UX system and used the included software to model a shitload of amps and download presets. What's the ticket nowadays? My budget is 150-200ish. Thanks

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Focusrite scarlette 2i4 for the interface

https://www.amazon.com/Focusrite-Sc...te+scarlett+2i4

For amp modelling the software du jour is Bias from Positive grid but amplitube is also really nice.

If you want to watch a dude talk more in depth about it, there's tons of videos on youtube. (which is where I got nearly all my information)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwjC5Xjb5Go

ColonelJohnMatrix
Jun 24, 2006

Because all fucking hell is going to break loose

Spanish Manlove posted:

Focusrite scarlette 2i4 for the interface

https://www.amazon.com/Focusrite-Sc...te+scarlett+2i4

For amp modelling the software du jour is Bias from Positive grid but amplitube is also really nice.

If you want to watch a dude talk more in depth about it, there's tons of videos on youtube. (which is where I got nearly all my information)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwjC5Xjb5Go

Thanks!

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
FWIW that's the exact setup I use and I couldn't be happier with it.

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

spamman posted:

Yep. Have had a THR10 for over two years. Fantastic.

You guys got me itching for one of these. I'm thinking about the 10x version. Anyone got one?

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
If anyone has amplitube and wants a neato preset I made combining a midheavy soldano tone and an HM2 monster I put it up on dropbox. You can likely swap out the second amp (the slash one) if you don't have it, but I thought it sounded beastly with it.

Edit: I think that's the right file.

Spanish Manlove fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Jun 30, 2016

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
Has anyone here used Bias and Amplitube? If so which one did you prefer?

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
I've used both a bunch, and the short version is you're going to get amazing results with either, so it's really just a UI shootout. I'd say if you're the kind of person who really likes fine tuning things and really deep diving into each component's settings, Amplitube is better set up for that. If you just want to turn it on and cycle through some presets and play around with the massive user submitted cloud database without getting super granular with things (though you can if you want), Bias FX is the way to go.

They're both great though. I use Bias exclusively now just because I'm bad at dialing in my own sounds so I prefer to browse the cloud and tweak from there and it's stupid easy to do that in Bias.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

fullroundaction posted:

I've used both a bunch, and the short version is you're going to get amazing results with either, so it's really just a UI shootout. I'd say if you're the kind of person who really likes fine tuning things and really deep diving into each component's settings, Amplitube is better set up for that. If you just want to turn it on and cycle through some presets and play around with the massive user submitted cloud database without getting super granular with things (though you can if you want), Bias FX is the way to go.

They're both great though. I use Bias exclusively now just because I'm bad at dialing in my own sounds so I prefer to browse the cloud and tweak from there and it's stupid easy to do that in Bias.

I learned a few tricks (like instead of turning down highs on the amp you move the mic on the cab, etc) in amplitube now so I prefer it over bias. But like you I agree that if you're not really keen on achieving that perfect balance of settings and like just plugging and playing, Bias is better. If you want to tweak poo poo forever and have a library of "high gain v1" "high gain v2" "high gain v3" settings where you reiterate on the same idea until it's perfect, then amplitube is perfect for you. It took me a month to get a tone I liked the first time and now I can get it in an hour (except bass which I'm still not really happy with, but I'm blaming my strings on that because I hate fat beams compared to hi beams).

Killsion
Feb 16, 2011

Templars Rock.
On the topic of home recording I feel like I'm missing something when my band decides to record something. The sound just never sounds particularly good, even after doing multiple tracks on it. We set up the mic fine, but it just never seems to record as clearly as I always hear on other tutorial/recording type videos.

Regarding amplitude and stuff, is it just me or does the whole amp modeling thing seem kind of cheap? I understand how it's easy and effective, but I feel like I'd rather actually just use my own amp and tone, not just try and model it, ya know?

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
Amp modeling pros: free or basically free, near infinite sounds, no physical gear required, can do it silently in any living situation without any concern for acoustic treatment, most people couldn't tell the difference between that and a real amp in a mix

Amp modeling cons: might not sound as good as a real amp if you're an experienced engineer

Real amp pros: might sound better in mix if you're an experienced engineer

Real amp cons: [the opposite of all of the amp modeling pros] + it's a pain in the rear end

E: For the record I don't disagree, I just think it's silly to write it off entirely unless you're doing stuff at a professional level that demands a specific sound.

Like, I wouldn't want to listen to a Joe Bonamassa record where he plugged into a USB direct box.

fullroundaction fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Jul 1, 2016

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Also don't forget you can mix in a real amp with modeling software to get the best of both worlds, your own special sound but supported by a bunch of expensive poo poo you're modelling.

(seriously the SLO100 is like $4000 and is my favorite amp in amplitube)

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
Hm that's tricky. I guess I could buy the other if I don't like one but I'd feel like I'm wasting money. I'll look into the interfaces for now.

Killsion
Feb 16, 2011

Templars Rock.

Spanish Manlove posted:

Also don't forget you can mix in a real amp with modeling software to get the best of both worlds, your own special sound but supported by a bunch of expensive poo poo you're modelling.

(seriously the SLO100 is like $4000 and is my favorite amp in amplitube)

How did you end up recording this?

https://soundcloud.com/lfranco321/office-space-hm2/s-R5VXv

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Serotonin posted:

You guys got me itching for one of these. I'm thinking about the 10x version. Anyone got one?

Me! I really like it. Great for metal and has a lot of versatility. The cleans are lovely. Anything you want to know about it?

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day

muike posted:

Hm that's tricky. I guess I could buy the other if I don't like one but I'd feel like I'm wasting money. I'll look into the interfaces for now.

Bias FX has a demo that's fully featured (it just cuts out for a few seconds every once in a while) and Amplitube seems to have something of a demo with its Custom Shop ... though I don't know much about that.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug

fullroundaction posted:

Bias FX has a demo that's fully featured (it just cuts out for a few seconds every once in a while) and Amplitube seems to have something of a demo with its Custom Shop ... though I don't know much about that.
Amplitube paid-version *is* the custom shop/demo version, with a bunch of stuff unlocked. With either version you can try out specific pieces of gear for a few days for free.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Long story short, I reamped two guitar takes I previously did straight into a USB interface by just swapping presets on amplitube. That preset is a clean boost tube screamer into a dimed HM2 (with the high slightly turned down) and that's plugged into an AFD100 (which is a slash branded copy of what I think is a marshall super lead according to this http://www.slashparadise.com/equipment/amps-slash.php ) that's going through an ampeg pb212h that's recorded with an sm57 and senn421.

Each take is on it's own track and is a distinct playthrough, the tracks are 75% L and R respectively. That helps add to it sounding bigger. Also that ampeg cab is the best sounding one for the HM2 for some reason.

Edit: Oh, the guitar is a gibson SG with EMGs and tuned to B standard. Her name is antonia la negra.

Second edit: I've since figured out an HM2 tone I like better where I have two tracks using that preset, then copying them with a reamp of the soldano model I normally use and having that lower in the mix. So in total it's four distinct tracks of two takes; where each side gets two amps mixed together. Basically it adds a touch of cojones and fills out the HM2 tone where it hits like a truck rather than a buzzsaw.

Spanish Manlove fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Jul 1, 2016

ColonelJohnMatrix
Jun 24, 2006

Because all fucking hell is going to break loose

Per this thread's recommendation I picked up a Scarlett Solo last night (don't need the double input) and got it all hooked up. Works fine and the dry guitar signal (using my strat) is coming through my headphones perfect. Downloaded Bias (both the fx version and amp) and it's all jacked up. The guitar signal just repeatedly cuts in and out and there is horrendous lag.

Not sure what the hell is going on as the guitar input and cable are completely fine. Headphones sound great with the dry signal and anything else I play on the computer.

Frustrated with that, I downloaded GuitarRig 5 and can't figure out how to get the amp to receive any input. I'm apparently a dumb poo poo I guess.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Are you using ASIO drivers? How high do you have your input gain? You should have the input gain as high as you can go without it clipping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er9VhozNHNk

ColonelJohnMatrix
Jun 24, 2006

Because all fucking hell is going to break loose

Spanish Manlove posted:

Are you using ASIO drivers? How high do you have your input gain? You should have the input gain as high as you can go without it clipping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er9VhozNHNk

Yes, ASIO drivers and my input is right on the edge of clipping. Again, it sounds find coming through the dry output on the Scarlett Solo. That's what makes Bias sounding all hosed up even stranger. Back in the day when I used a Line6 UX box and their guitar software I was up and going in an evening, which makes this more frustrating.

As for GuitarRig, I figure I must be missing some dumb input/output setting to get it work.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
Guitar Rig can be a knobber about stereo input signal, put a plugin in front of it that makes your guitar mono before it hits GR5.

ColonelJohnMatrix
Jun 24, 2006

Because all fucking hell is going to break loose

NonzeroCircle posted:

Guitar Rig can be a knobber about stereo input signal, put a plugin in front of it that makes your guitar mono before it hits GR5.

Thanks I will try that out tonight.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
It's a little goofy but also try downloading reaper and running guitar rig through that. So have reaper handle the IO and guitar rig does the processing. Just set it on a track, press the "record" button on that track (but not the master record button), right click the track record button and select "monitor" so you can hear it.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Sometimes I can't even decide on which porn to watch for a quick rustle so I avoid most modeling amps thanks to option paralysis but I love reading and hearing what you guys can pull off with them. I'm still tied to my amp purist ways with the exception of the THR but not appreciating what can be done with software nowadays would be insane. It's also a bit silly since my focus is bedroom/studio play where software usually beats out the real thing for ease of use.

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NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
The Ignite Amps are all free (you need their Nadir IR cabinet thingy too and some IRs to load into it which can easily be found free and legit) and if you just want "an amp sim" without the total overload of options that say GR5 or Amplitube offer then they are well worth a go. Interestingly there were a couple of bands who liked their ampsim so much that they made a hardware version.

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