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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Raskolnikov38 posted:

we're like 1/6 of the country, we deserve input

California's primary was a total shitshow. Frankly none of you can be trusted to run your own primaries, and the Democratic Party should be organized according to Democratic Centralism.

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paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

MizPiz posted:

Just make it so that they have to go from deepthroating corndogs made from the finest meat paste to forcing down soul-food "inspired" vegan cuisines in the span of 24 hours, and I'm in.

oh poo poo i forgot about the corn dogs

photographs of politicians trying and failing to look dignified while eating bad carny food is an essential political institution

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Majorian posted:

It was a joke, you silly.

*after berating you to the point where you break down in tears* I'm just joking! C'mon, I'm just kidding around! Man, you need to not be so sensitive.

ShutteredIn
Mar 24, 2005

El Campeon Mundial del Acordeon
Did it come up here yet that Warren will be on the Armed Services Committee next year?

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

didn't know that. may signal a desire to get foreign policy chops in preparation for 2020

of course cory booker got on the Foreign Relations Committee so he's running in 2020 for sure and must be destroyed

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Raskolnikov38 posted:

we're like 1/6 of the country, we deserve input

californians have this retardedly inflated sense of self-worth

honestly as a new yoiker im enjoying being able to turn on my faucet and get running water

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Pollyanna posted:

also Obama has been a huge disappointment to me, I mean I didn't exactly expect the government to ever be useful or effective but you'd think the first black president would give more of a poo poo than he actually did

Why? Because he's black? Because that is a notion people need to drop.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
apparently wanting to actually matter in the presidential selection process in a capacity at least comparable to Iowa is now unreasonable

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Serf posted:

Elon Musk: *is a nerd who makes electric cars, does space stuff and wants UBI*

Elon Musk: *is also an anti-union billionaire*

Liberals: :swoon:

UBI would make unions almost pointless since it would no longer be a choice between, getting poo poo-on by your employer, or starving. Ideally we can live in a world where unions are obsolete.

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

UBI would make unions almost pointless since it would no longer be a choice between, getting poo poo-on by your employer, or starving. Ideally we can live in a world where unions are obsolete.

look at you, wrong yet again!

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:

look at you, wrong yet again!

Unions exist to combat a problem, not solve it. He's got a good point. Unions are good but what if we didn't need them?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
JFK banged Marilyn Monroe and had so many pre-existing health issues that he couldn't have gotten health insurance until the ACA passed if he was alive today

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Raskolnikov38 posted:

we're like 1/6 of the country, we deserve input

more that we should demand input rather than say we deserve input.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
like if Oswald hadn't emancipated his brains from his skull JFK would've probably literally fallen apart a couple years later anyway

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Look, no, once we have a guaranteed income and an all-robot work force, we can all live lives of idle luxury + volunteer work as people desire, and then the robots we've enslaved will rise up and murder us all and we won't need unions any more forever.

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

Segmentation Fault posted:

Unions exist to combat a problem, not solve it. He's got a good point. Unions are good but what if we didn't need them?

yeah, what if we had Full Communism now and lived in a classless, stateless society?

as long as capitalism exists, unions are necessary. as long as people work, unions are necessary. UBI is a good thing, but it's not the utopia-inducing panacea that Reddit nerds like to pretend it is

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
the california delegation demands that a commitment to hanging loose and catching gnarly curl be added to the platform

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
JFK was literally what you'd get if dominant/recessive genes worked the way that Liquid Snake thought they did

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

docbeard posted:

Look, no, once we have a guaranteed income and an all-robot work force, we can all live lives of idle luxury + volunteer work as people desire, and then the robots we've enslaved will rise up and murder us all and we won't need unions any more forever.

Eh, I can think of worse outcomes.

OWLS!
Sep 17, 2009

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
So is #calexit gaining any steam yet?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
if I owned a business I'd be happy to have a union work force tbqh, which is while I'll never be a business owner

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

JFK was literally what you'd get if dominant/recessive genes worked the way that Liquid Snake thought they did

lmao Metal Gear Solid 2 is the Cassandra of our generation

Serf
May 5, 2011


ate poo poo on live tv posted:

UBI would make unions almost pointless since it would no longer be a choice between, getting poo poo-on by your employer, or starving. Ideally we can live in a world where unions are obsolete.

I agree. Musk should use his vast fortune to start funding UBI

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Fidel Cuckstro posted:

I think we could nominate Levar Burton for president but I don't know if the Reading Rainbow kickstarter ever actually resulted in anything.

I got a fridge magnet

mugrim
Mar 2, 2007

The same eye cannot both look up to heaven and down to earth.

loquacius posted:

This is probably true, HRC considered Mark Zuckerberg as a running mate more seriously than she considered Bernie Sanders. She does not like being opposed. She'd probably have treated Obama like Sanders, meaning she'd have allowed him to campaign for her in the general if he wanted but would never have publicly given him any sort of endorsement or even acknowledgement.

HRCs MO in the organizing world is Loyalty > Sugar coating > Competence

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
if JFK had a smartphone that had gotten hacked there'd be so many pics of naked actresses taking his cripple dick that the porno industry would never recover

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

paranoid randroid posted:

the california delegation demands that a commitment to hanging loose and catching gnarly curl be added to the platform

once again the californian delegation is late to their own primary because, in their words, "we were layin' on the beach wondering what it all means, bra"

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Admiral Ray posted:

once again the californian delegation is late to their own primary because, in their words, "we were layin' on the beach wondering what it all means, bra"

"traffic is hosed, man. i had to take the 5 to the 110 to the 405 to the-"

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
the real secret of the Cuban Missile Crisis was that JFK didn't secretly agree to remove Jupiter missiles from Turkey, but that he spitroasted Marilyn Monroe with the Soviet ambassador

mugrim
Mar 2, 2007

The same eye cannot both look up to heaven and down to earth.

paranoid randroid posted:

"traffic is hosed, man. i had to take the 5 to the 110 to the 405 to the-"

Remember how the answer to Who framed Roger Rabbit? was effectively GM.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
The Californian delegation just can't stop talking about their startups

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Aurubin posted:

Eh, I can think of worse outcomes.

Yeah, I mean I'm not an accelerationist by any means but I reckon robot uprising is a better way to go out than ecological collapse or nuclear hellscape or fascist dystopia.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Segmentation Fault posted:

*after berating you to the point where you break down in tears* I'm just joking! C'mon, I'm just kidding around! Man, you need to not be so sensitive.

Teeeears of a clown...when there's no one around...

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Californians are absolutely really really far up their own asses but New Yorkers don't really have room to complain there because their arrogance house is made of the thinnest glass ever

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
still, JFK was no Joseph P. Kennedy, who after hearing that JFK had gotten all sorts of hero points for getting his torpedo boat rammed by a Japanese destroyer, said "oh yeah, Imma gonna volunteer to fly a heavy bomber stuffed full of explosives"

it didn't end well

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:

yeah, what if we had Full Communism now and lived in a classless, stateless society?

as long as capitalism exists, unions are necessary. as long as people work, unions are necessary. UBI is a good thing, but it's not the utopia-inducing panacea that Reddit nerds like to pretend it is

UBI can only be sold as a potential program in the first place, so long as it's limited to a below subsistence income.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Grondoth posted:

The Californian delegation just can't stop talking about their startups

Plus it's only 70 degrees outside there and none of them have winter coats.

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

loquacius posted:

Californians are absolutely really really far up their own asses but New Yorkers don't really have room to complain there because their arrogance house is made of the thinnest glass ever

try living in DC, it's somehow worse than both California and NYC but without as good of a city as NYC and with infinitely worse weather than CA

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
basically what I'm saying is that I certainly understand why older Dems idolize JFK even if I don't share that view personally

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Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

loquacius posted:

Californians are absolutely really really far up their own asses but New Yorkers don't really have room to complain there because their arrogance house is made of the thinnest glass ever

Yeah but only NYC has an arrogance house, the rest of the state blew the gently caress up and knows it

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