Cybernetic Vermin posted:

Why respond? Not strictly incorrect in any way, and in fact makes a pretty good point about how the rise of mass production has impacted society. A point made in a hugely annoying way, but not so bad as to make it worth getting into an argument over.

smilingfish posted:

Here's a good one I saw today.


I think this basically translates to "I'm old and I'm not happy." Any ideas on a response?

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Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service.

smilingfish posted:

Here's a good one I saw today.


I think this basically translates to "I'm old and I'm not happy." Any ideas on a response?

smilingfish posted:

We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks.

smilingfish posted:

Here's a good one I saw today.


I think this basically translates to "I'm old and I'm not happy." Any ideas on a response?

KillerJunglist posted:

I don't have a rebuttal, but here is a word for word recitation from a woman who is clearly insane and has access to... I dunnow, poser I guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJbdHg3hpmI

Ho Chi Mint posted:

The best example of the cognitive dissonance of the "back in my day" guys is the reaction to this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aDs1sHJLFE

To illustrate the improvements in safety over the past 50 years, a 1959 Chevy was crashed into a 2009 Chevy. The 2009 Chevy was much better at protecting its occupant, but the comments all find ways to disagree with what is literally before their eyes.

Amused to Death posted:

They're destroying my classic death trap!! Whether it's cars or music, people often think old=good, back in the good old days, and this includes to a large extent people who weren't even alive at the time.

smilingfish posted:

I don't know, it sort of comes across to me as "gently caress this green poo poo, I'm old". It does make some good points, you're right.

I'll just let it lie.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

I mean... would it be entirely disingenuous for you to respond with something along the lines of "yeah, they didn't call it the green thing back then, but this is definitely what green advocates are talking about. You got a lot of things right, it's a shame consumer culture ruined it all, but it's not too late to go back!"?

Absurd Alhazred posted:

I mean... would it be entirely disingenuous for you to respond with something along the lines of "yeah, they didn't call it the green thing back then, but this is definitely what green advocates are talking about. You got a lot of things right, it's a shame consumer culture ruined it all, but it's not too late to go back!"?

Tab8715 posted:

Conservative say that it's Obama fault we're losing jobs, he gave all the money to Egypt

vyelkin posted:

Last I heard the sequester was $83B, so this would amount to a whopping 0.3% of the sequester's total. Yet another case of large numbers all blending together in one's mind. Once something gets past the point where you can really conceive of how much money it is, $200M might as well be $5B might as well be $1.2T.

800peepee51doodoo posted:

I honestly think a lot of people don't know what a billion is. Like, they don't know what the word even means or represents, let alone how to conceive of that number in terms of money (or anything else for that matter). I mean I have literally had to explain to otherwise intelligent people that a billion is 1000 million.

Mitchicon posted:

Makes you miss the Spanish Inquisition.

KillerJunglist posted:

Got this one, included comments:


I wanted to point out that the card expires on election day 2012, but I know these people and they would just call me "liberal" like it's some kind of derogatory thing and move on.

800peepee51doodoo posted:

I honestly think a lot of people don't know what a billion is. Like, they don't know what the word even means or represents, let alone how to conceive of that number in terms of money (or anything else for that matter). I mean I have literally had to explain to otherwise intelligent people that a billion is 1000 million.

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Paper is temporary,bullets are forever! Gun control is hitting what you aim at! I suggest center mass. If faced with armored vest head shot works too! Ahhhhh the Pink Mist.

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Now a days u have to protect ur self! Too many nut heads out there wid no regard to human life! Train n learn to shoot

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Its not teaching your daughters to be violent. It's teaching them to repel evil! Its everyone's God given right!

Irvin posted:

Read # 6 of The Ten commandments before you shoot because you can"t take a bullet back after you have fired it.

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Irvin McGarrell, the proper translation of the Bible is " Thou shalt not murder", self defense is NOT murder.

Dirty Job posted:

friend's wall posted:

Military Pay
Please take the time to read!

CINDY WILLIAMS was appointed by Obama as an Assistant Director for NATIONAL SECURITY in the Congressional Budget Office.....

This is an Airman's response to Cindy Williams' editorial piece in the Washington Post about MILITARY PAY, it should be printed in all newspapers across America .

Cindy William wrote a piece for the Washington Times denouncing the pay raise(s) coming service members' way this year citing that she stated a 13% wage increase was more than they deserve.

A young airman from HillAFB responds to her article below. He ought to get a bonus for this.

"Ms Williams:

I just had the pleasure of reading your column, "Our GI's earn enough" and I am a bit confused. Frankly, I'm wondering where this vaunted overpayment is going, because as far as I can tell, it disappears every month between DFAS (The Defense Finance and Accounting Service) and my bank account. Checking my latest earnings statement I see that I make $1,117.80 before taxes per month. After taxes, I take home $874.20. When I run that through the calculator, I come up with an annual salary of $13,413.60 before taxes, and $10,490.40 after.

I work in the Air Force Network Control Center where I am part of the team responsible for a 5,000 host computer network. I am involved with infrastructure segments, specifically with Cisco Systems equipment. A quick check under jobs for "Network Technicians" in the Washington , D.C. area reveals a position in my career field, requiring three years experience in my job. Amazingly, this job does NOT pay $13,413.60 a year. No, this job is being offered at $70,000 to $80,000 per annum............ I'm sure you can draw the obvious conclusions.

Given the tenor of your column, I would assume that you NEVER had the pleasure of serving your country in her armed forces.

Before you take it upon yourself to once more castigate congressional and DOD leadership for attempting to get the families in the military's lowest pay brackets off of WIC and food stamps, I suggest that you join a group of deploying soldiers headed for AFGHANISTAN ; I leave the choice of service branch up to you. Whatever choice you make though, opt for the SIX month rotation: it will guarantee you the longest possible time away from your family and friends, thus giving you full "deployment experience."

As your group prepares to board the plane, make sure to note the spouses and children who are saying good-bye to their loved ones. Also take care to note that several families are still unsure of how they'll be able to make ends meet while the primary breadwinner is gone. Obviously they've been squandering the "vast" piles of cash the government has been giving them.

Try to deploy over a major holiday; Christmas and Thanksgiving are perennial favorites.. And when you're actually over there, sitting in a foxhole, shivering against the cold desert night, and the flight sergeant tells you that there aren't enough people on shift to relieve you for chow, remember this: trade whatever MRE's (meal-ready-to-eat) you manage to get for the tuna noodle casserole or cheese tortellini, and add Tabasco to everything. This gives some flavor.

Talk to your loved ones as often as you are permitted; it won't be nearly long enough or often enough, but take what you can get and be thankful for it. You may have picked up on the fact that I disagree with most of the points you present in your open piece.

But, tomorrow from KABUL , I will defend to the death your right to say it.

You see, I am an American fighting man, a guarantor of your First Amendment right and every other right you cherish...On a daily basis, my brother and sister soldiers worldwide ensure that you and people like you can thumb your collective noses at us, all on a salary that is nothing short of pitiful and under conditions that would make most people cringe. We hemorrhage our best and brightest into the private sector because we can't offer the stability and pay of civilian companies.

And you, Ms.. Williams, have the gall to say that we make more than we deserve?”
A1C Michael Bragg, Hill AFB AFNCC
IF YOU AGREE, PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT OF THE AMERICAN FIGHTING MEN AND WOMEN.
If you get this more than once, feel honored that you know more than one person
who supports our military and appreciates what they do.

Pollyanna posted:

Oh hi Facebook love you too.

Dirty Job posted:

This just popped up on Facebook. I could have sworn I eradicated all remnants of the "2nd Amendment! OOH-RAH" force from my friends list weeks ago. But nope.

Some lovely quotes for this otherwise tame picture:


Such little regard for human life these days. Better learn how to kill people!

Shooting people isn't violent!




To be fair, the vast majority of the posts are pretty bog-standard or actually fairly positive. Most of the people posting say we need to teach people about proper gun control, or some kind of martial art instead of just a gun. I'm pretty pleased with the responses, but of course most of the idiot posts I see have a couple dozen likes attached to them.

vyelkin posted:

Last I heard the sequester was $83B, so this would amount to a whopping 0.3% of the sequester's total. Yet another case of large numbers all blending together in one's mind. Once something gets past the point where you can really conceive of how much money it is, $200M might as well be $5B might as well be $1.2T.

Gourd of Taste posted:

Seriously tho enlisted could and should be paid more, and that article would be at least a little relevant if Cindy Williams worked for the Obama admin. (Last I heard she'd been part of the Clinton team from 94-97 and had nothing to do with Obama, but that could have changed, anyone want to clarify?)

Gourd of Taste posted:

Seriously tho enlisted could and should be paid more, and that article would be at least a little relevant if Cindy Williams worked for the Obama admin. (Last I heard she'd been part of the Clinton team from 94-97 and had nothing to do with Obama, but that could have changed, anyone want to clarify?)

ratbert90 posted:

Also we should cut a good 30 - 50% of the military (slowly, not all at once) so that way we CAN pay our enlisted more.