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What gets checked varies widely too, sometimes it doesn't seem to go much beyond "has wheels, lights work". 
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Lottery of Babylon posted:With or without net neutrality, it’s no different. You can view the government as a private corporation. You don't understand what Net Neutrality is. They can already charge more for using more. Net Neutrality means they can't charge more for the same amount of usage depending on what it's used for, and they can't intentionally slow down certain types of traffic (users already pay for speed). And there isn't a chance in hell abolishing NN rules decreases people's bills.
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:You don't understand what Net Neutrality is. They can already charge more for using more. Net Neutrality means they can't charge more for the same amount of usage depending on what it's used for, and they can't intentionally slow down certain types of traffic (users already pay for speed). I'm not sure you get Lottery of Babylon.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I'm not sure you get Lottery of Babylon. To be fair, LoB usually only gimmicks in pyf.
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JustJeff88 posted:given that the other option is British Rail, which has totally gone down the plughole since being privatised JustJeff88 posted:totally gone down the plughole JustJeff88 posted:since being privatised does not compute
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Weatherman posted:does not compute A dumb Statist might be confused by these puzzling foreign-isms, but with the Science of Human Action as the wind at my sails’ back, I can clearly deduce that “totally gone down the plughole” means all the bad parts of British Rail have been efficiently and privately disposed of. Thusly it is a highly beneficial  circumstance of affairs!
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WampaLord posted:This varies by state. In Florida, there's no vehicle inspections, but when I moved to California I had to start getting them done. I mean I made the assumption because otherwise I wonder how all those programs about people buying rustbuckets and driving them around work, or how those weirdos who modify their 5 tonne trucks to smoke like a coal plant manage. Pretty sure the coppers'd have you for both of those here.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean I made the assumption because otherwise I wonder how all those programs about people buying rustbuckets and driving them around work, or how those weirdos who modify their 5 tonne trucks to smoke like a coal plant manage. A rusty rear end car is usually fine so long as all the lights and the brakes work. It's ugly, but not particularly a safety hazard. "Rolling coal" people are straight up breaking all sorts of laws, but also usually sheepishly switch their system back to normal mode for inspection purposes, where the vehicle will usually pass. They can't drive around like that all the time anyway because ti really eats up your fuel and that starts to really hurt the ol' wallet.
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fishmech posted:A rusty rear end car is usually fine so long as all the lights and the brakes work. It's ugly, but not particularly a safety hazard. But it drives those libs CRAZY!!!
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Vehicle inspections in Texas are pretty basic, horn, brakes, hand brake, lights, and wipers. If all that’s good, then you pass and you get to register your vehicle. Inspection and registration together runs about 120, which isn’t too bad.
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Pretty sure you can fail a UK one if there's a problem with your diesel particulate filter.
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OwlFancier posted:Pretty sure you can fail a UK one if there's a problem with your diesel particulate filter. As soon as you switch your dumb rollin coal vehicle back into normal operations mode, all things like that should turn up normal.
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Dec 1, 2017 20:43
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I mean as in they're pretty thorough. I really want to transplant some libertarians to our commusocialist dystopic hell country and see what happens.
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Usually what happens is they move back to the US and make a career out of complaining about your socialist hellscape.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean as in they're pretty thorough. I really want to transplant some libertarians to our commusocialist dystopic hell country and see what happens. Doesn't matter how "thorough" yours are, the vehicle should still pass. Plus your whole dumb continent lets people drive around diesel shitboxes all day that spew hella pollution regardless, so there's that too. A cut-in rolling coal thing shouldn't really be a problem for passing inspection unless the owner is dumb enough to leave it on rollin coal all the time.
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I was more responding to the people saying their states had fairly simple regulations but thanks.
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fishmech posted:unless the owner is dumb enough to leave it on rollin coal all the time. Guess what.
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My state, despite being an otherwise unremarkable right-wing hellhole, actually requires emissions tests on vehicles if you live in its major cities--because the cities, at least, have realized that air quality is a thing to protect, especially when there are millions of vehicles on the roads in one metropolitan area. But yeah, it's very much a state-by-state thing in the US about what kinds of standards the cars have to meet and how often they need to be tested. And some states don't require inspections at all, which completely blows my mind. Edited to add--all that info is submitted to the DMV electronically so for a very small surcharge (like $2) I can skip the office visit entirely and renew my plates online. I get the tags in the mail a week or so later. It owns. Wish I could do my license that way but for some reason they want to take an actual picture of me for identification purposes?? (that was sarcasm) atomicgeek fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Dec 2, 2017 |
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See that actually is odd because over here you post your picture and the form off to the DVLA and they post you your license back. Maybe we were the libertopia all along.
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ancaps made a youtube video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIojr6jRSVg
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You'd think small government types would dislike fascism.
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Dr. Stab posted:You'd think small government types would dislike fascism. dont worry, they were sure to literally say something about "both sides"
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Dr. Stab posted:You'd think small government types would dislike fascism. Hey if a private corporation wants to exterminate all the subhumans before they can violate the NAP by mongrelizing the white race then it's all good.
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Statement: I'm HK-47 with an ancap paint scheme.
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You're just a traveling piece of bad luck, aren't you?
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[chicory intensifies] https://twitter.com/WLV_investor/status/938410022538682368
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[Image about how you can only work 30 hours a week but you have to be available at all hours to cover a shift] 1. Ya know, this is something I've only half-assedly thought about. Even if some of my friends wanted to have more than one job, they're pretty much expected to be on call every day of the week, whether it's because of "planned out" schedules or some one called in sick and they need a last minute replacement. 2. The irony of this is that the tendency to use workers part-time is fueled in large part by requirements intended to benefit workers that kick in when they work full-time. 3. I think the deeper problem is that so many things are expected to come from the companies we work for. Health care, retirement, a living wage. If we removed the dependency of getting those things from our jobs in the first place there would be no regulations on how much people could work. 2. Right. That comes down to "who is responsible for meeting your needs?" I would naturally say that we each are responsible for meeting our own needs, but I know a lot of people who might say our employers or our government are. If our employers are, we open this can of worms. 1. Is a friend who does a lot of work for the Libertarian Party but honestly i have no idea why she iddntifies as a libertarian. 2. Is a mechanical engineer. 3. Is a software engineer (self employed)
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AShamefulDisplay posted:3. I think the deeper problem is that so many things are expected to come from the companies we work for. Health care, retirement, a living wage. If we removed the dependency of getting those things from our jobs in the first place there would be no regulations on how much people could work.
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Gonna propose a radical solution, check this: if you're expected to be on call, you expect to be paid for it.
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Golbez posted:Gosh how dare we expect the ability to live and exist from our employment. ... Wait, what's the point of employment again? How about we expect the ability to live and exist from our government?
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How about we expect the ability to live and exist in general cos the alternative is that you go around shooting undesirables. Honestly when people start talking about the mutability of the right to basic subsistence and who has to pay for it they're basically advocating for the laziest loving form of eugenics.
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OwlFancier posted:How about we expect the ability to live and exist in general cos the alternative is that you go around shooting undesirables. I’m pretty sure I’m not advocating for any kind of eugenics.
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Golbez posted:Gosh how dare we expect the ability to live and exist from our employment. ... Wait, what's the point of employment again? The ~*dignity of work*~.
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That is what it eventually comes down to with a lot of libertarians, some sort of eugenics. I've pressed some people who are extremely against food banks, homeless shelters, or welfare of any sort. "If our city stopped spending so much money on handouts to the homeless they'd all go somewhere else, it's like feeding stray cats!" But what if every city stopped spending anything on addressing homelessness? "Good, it would stop enabling people to choose the homeless lifestyle, they'd be forced to work and get their act together or starve to death" What if people can't get their acts together, what if people do starve to death? "I don't think they would, they'd work, they'd have to work, but if some chose not to work, chose to starve or freeze to death, that's their choice and maybe society's better off..."
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Avenging_Mikon posted:I’m pretty sure I’m not advocating for any kind of eugenics. You're also not, as far as I know, going "I'm sure people have a right to exist but I wouldn't feel comfortable suggesting anyone in particular has to pay for it." like the oiks in the quoted exchange.
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One of the most obvious problems with the "if we stop helping poor people, they'll finally stop being lazy and get jobs" is...not having many job openings to begin with? There's not an infinite number of jobs waiting around. Especially if you're in a hard hit city or going through a recession.
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There’s an old thread in the archives which was quite eye opening for me. Helped me lose the libertarian attitudes towards the homeless that had osmosed into my brain over the years. It was simply a goon talking about their past experience of being a homeless teen in Canada. Why “GET A JOB LAZY BUM!!!” is incredibly unrealistic advice to someone forced into living on the streets. Why so many become addicts, if they weren’t already. How lucky they were to get out of their predicament, with emphasis on the luck. Reminiscing about their friends who didn’t survive. Anybody else remember that one? It’s probably goldmined.
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Mr Interweb posted:One of the most obvious problems with the "if we stop helping poor people, they'll finally stop being lazy and get jobs" is...not having many job openings to begin with? There's not an infinite number of jobs waiting around. Especially if you're in a hard hit city or going through a recession. If there aren't enough jobs, you just have to work harder for it to get one! Arithmetic is nothing compared to the power of personal responsibility.
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Mr Interweb posted:One of the most obvious problems with the "if we stop helping poor people, they'll finally stop being lazy and get jobs" is...not having many job openings to begin with? There's not an infinite number of jobs waiting around. Especially if you're in a hard hit city or going through a recession. Also the fact that being homeless sucks wet rear end, and the fact that charities consistently report that one of their major impediments is convincing people that accepting help isn't a weakness and to not think of it as a "handout."
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OwlFancier posted:You're also not, as far as I know, going "I'm sure people have a right to exist but I wouldn't feel comfortable suggesting anyone in particular has to pay for it." like the oiks in the quoted exchange. K, just wanted to make sure I wasn’t throwing out signals I wasn’t aware of.
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