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bull3964 posted:Devices sometimes reboot on their own (Nexus devices, in my experience have been more prone to this especially around new versions) and I would rather not have a device stuck on a boot menu if I don't notice it right away. The warning goes away after 10 seconds according to the posts I found about it when you mentioned it so it can't get stuck on the screen. I do wonder how that update scenario you describe would work with rooted devices that can't take OTAs.
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LastInLine posted:The warning goes away after 10 seconds according to the posts I found about it when you mentioned it so it can't get stuck on the screen. You only have to bump a button to interrupt the boot process which is pretty easy to do in your pocket. Also, the pixel C emits a loud and somewhat annoying high pitched BEEEP during that screen, just to make sure you know your security is compromised. I would assume rooted devices would abort during install since the system partition would fail verification.
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bull3964 posted:I would assume rooted devices would abort during install since the system partition would fail verification. Yes, they said that it will be strictly enforcing on the new Nexuses and they won't boot with a modified system unless the bootloader is unlocked.
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Aug 4, 2016 18:28
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nimper posted:Wow, really? Link please! OTA, and may not do you much good unless you too have an XT1095. Someone else might have captured it on XDA but I didn't really think about it.
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Aug 4, 2016 19:47
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Sir Unimaginative posted:OTA, and may not do you much good unless you too have an XT1095. Someone else might have captured it on XDA but I didn't really think about it. So this is hot off the presses? I do have an XT1095 and I don't see any mention of it anywhere - not even on XDA - which is why asked for a link of where you found it.
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Aug 4, 2016 19:58
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nimper posted:So this is hot off the presses? The system update app on the phone itself. (And the bulletin. The dissertation will have to wait.) 
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Aug 4, 2016 20:17
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CLAM DOWN posted:Please don't tell me that people are calling it this unironically Literally no one is calling it that.
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Aug 4, 2016 20:45
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TenaciousTomato posted:Yesterday I rebooted my 5X after the August security update. I washed the dishes and cleaned my bathroom before "Android is upgrading..." completed
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Aug 4, 2016 20:56
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docbeard posted:Goddamn so THAT'S why... I was having that happen EVERY time I launched Pokémon GO and was just baffled
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Aug 4, 2016 21:45
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Sir Unimaginative posted:The system update app on the phone itself. (And the bulletin. The dissertation will have to wait.) OK, cool. Guess it will hit mine here soon as well. Thanks!
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Aug 4, 2016 21:55
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I installed the latest OTA update on my 5x and my screen was really dim, like it was half asleep. None of my settings had noticeably changed, so I googled to see if anyone else had the problem. Unfortunately I did the googling on my phone, so now I can't tell if my fiddling and a restart fixed it or I'm just used to it. Problem...solved??
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Aug 4, 2016 22:03
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Android has always had an issue of adaptive brightness screwing up sometimes. I've seen it in every device I've owned. Usually, sleeping and then waking the device up again resolves it.
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Aug 4, 2016 22:08
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Yeah my nexus 10 does it at least once a week
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Aug 4, 2016 22:12
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docbeard posted:Goddamn so THAT'S why... Pyroxene Stigma posted:Literally no one is calling it that.
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Aug 4, 2016 22:13
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Maker Of Shoes posted:Didn't bother to check and see if this is posted elsewhere in the thread but tldr something about the July update for the N6 causes it to lose data connectivity any time GPS activates. It's been plaguing me for days. Awesome, glad this got figured out. This was infuriating to me. Though I just signed up for the N preview officially and got an OTA and it works fine and was easy. Did I have to be bootloader unlocked to enter the beta program? If not, I don't think there's any downside really. When release comes out, it'll OTA to that too. It's been completely stable and usable for me, fwiw. And my data doesn't cut out when I ping gps!!
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Aug 4, 2016 23:14
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Tunga posted:This will be gone in Nougat since it's moving to JIT compilation, hooray! I believe it's only new devices running 7.0 that will be able to take advantage of the fancy upgrade thing, and not upgraded existing devices. Can anyone who has a clue confirm or refute this?
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Aug 4, 2016 23:42
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The JIT stuff means none of the 'optimising apps' crap, even without the background updating its going to be way quicker
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Aug 4, 2016 23:59
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Kerbtree posted:On a different note: the clusterfuck that is USB-C continues Christ, this is something that really should be worth a recall and replacement. That they're not is... disappointing.
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Aug 5, 2016 09:56
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MikeJF posted:Christ, this is something that really should be worth a recall and replacement. That they're not is... disappointing. All it does is destroy things that are plugged into it. No big deal* *...now, while there are only like three products in the world that use this connector. In the future when USB-C is ubiquitous and you got rid of your Nexus 5x five years ago, this charger will look like every other charger in your drawer but will destroy whatever you plug into it.
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Aug 5, 2016 10:47
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Yeah, I've got a compliant replacement in the post and the charger's going back into the retail box it came out of.
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Aug 5, 2016 11:47
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I would like to know how I can save a whole conversation history of text messages. Is there a way I can email them to myself or where do I find them if I save them on my phone?
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Aug 5, 2016 13:55
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lite_sleepr posted:I would like to know how I can save a whole conversation history of text messages. Is there a way I can email them to myself or where do I find them if I save them on my phone? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&hl=en
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Aug 5, 2016 14:00
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lite_sleepr posted:I would like to know how I can save a whole conversation history of text messages. Is there a way I can email them to myself or where do I find them if I save them on my phone? Personally I'm a big fan of SMS Backup+ because it will automatically upload your SMS convos to GMail and assign them a label which you can then read as a threaded conversation, search, and because it's backed up permanently, delete on your phone. The best part is that there's nothing manual about it, once it's set up it does it automatically without you ever doing anything ever again. New SMSs automatically append to the conversation so unlike Lblitzer's suggestion you won't have multiple copies of multiple threads that you have to manage (and manually create, extract, and view in a viewer). It's so good I often forget that Android doesn't do this by default. It works so well it feels native. ClassActionFursuit fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Aug 5, 2016 |
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https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/761435995627663360 Sounds like Google is going to be selling the new Nexus devices through carrier, and maybe a hint that they won't be called Nexus.
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Aug 5, 2016 15:01
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Hope Cricket is part of that 
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Aug 5, 2016 15:21
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What does buying from Cricket even get you? They don't offer any financing or discounts, so why not just buy from Google at that point?
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Aug 5, 2016 15:29
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Endless Mike posted:What does buying from Cricket even get you? They don't offer any financing or discounts, so why not just buy from Google at that point? Being a second class citizen on AT&T's network. It could sort of work out though if he lives somewhere where the LTE is slower than the HSPA+ (not a typo).
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Aug 5, 2016 15:42
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Sir Unimaginative posted:Being a second class citizen on AT&T's network. No no, USING Cricket is not what I'm asking. I'm asking why he cares whether they carry a phone that will presumably be unlocked from the manufacturer for the same price. I *suppose* there's some benefit in that they might handle warranty stuff, but I feel like that's expecting too much from a prepaid carrier.
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What are the latest size rumours for the new Nexus phones? Are we still at 5.5 and 5.0 as the first rumours said or did I see that we're getting 5.7 and 5.2 again like last year? I like my 6P but it's definitely just a little too big.
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Aug 5, 2016 15:58
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It is really crazy that Google hasn't implemented cloud sync for the SMS/MMS store by this point. I use SMSBackup+ as well, but it does have some limitations.
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Aug 5, 2016 16:16
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bull3964 posted:It is really crazy that Google hasn't implemented cloud sync for the SMS/MMS store by this point. I use SMSBackup+ as well, but it does have some limitations. Google probably considers SMS/MMS ephemeral, mostly because it was never designed with the Butt in mind, so don't hold your breath.
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Well, I've just installed the N preview on my Nexus 6, and so far everything seems to be working. Splitscreen is cool though I'm not really seeing that I'll ever have a need for...wait, no, I've just thought of a reason I'd use it, hahaha. (Calculator and bank app up at the same time...and the bank app doesn't support split screen. Of course it doesn't.) Seemed to lag a bit when I first booted up but it's running pretty smooth at the moment. I'm sure it will melt my phone and start playing an unstoppable "YOU INSTALLED BETA SOFTWARE? YOU FOOL!" message at me within the day but so far so good.
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docbeard posted:Well, I've just installed the N preview on my Nexus 6, and so far everything seems to be working. Splitscreen is cool though I'm not really seeing that I'll ever have a need for...wait, no, I've just thought of a reason I'd use it, hahaha. (Calculator and bank app up at the same time...and the bank app doesn't support split screen. Of course it doesn't.) Yeah, I did the same thing last night. Not super thrilled about it but its nice having data working while GPS is zeroed in. :/
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bull3964 posted:It is really crazy that Google hasn't implemented cloud sync for the SMS/MMS store by this point. I use SMSBackup+ as well, but it does have some limitations. Why is it crazy? SMS don't go through any Google app by default, and you can't send texts through the cloud (that's still true, right? need pushbullet or something?). Seems like just another dumb fringe thing most people don't actually care about, and if you do care, there's an app for it. iOS backs up texts with full backups of your phone, but also doesn't have any syncing or specific text backup afaik.
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Sir Unimaginative posted:Google probably considers SMS/MMS ephemeral, mostly because it was never designed with the Butt in mind, so don't hold your breath. I know, but it seems like something that would be trivial to implement. Same with send anywhere SMS. Cloud store the SMS db and have a flag if the message originated from a device with the primary phone number attached. If not, that device sends out that message when it syncs the db. Then you could easily send out a message from any device or the web from your carrier number without 3rd party software.
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Maker Of Shoes posted:Yeah, I did the same thing last night. Not super thrilled about it but its nice having data working while GPS is zeroed in. :/ Well, for all that there's an inherent risk in using beta software for everyday stuff, I've heard generally good things from people who've installed it (and honestly with N a month or so from actual release, it'd be pretty bad if the current developer preview weren't reasonably stable). So I am at least cautiously optimistic. And as you say, it's better than losing my data connection because my weather app decided to update or I wanted to look at a map.
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RVProfootballer posted:Why is it crazy? SMS don't go through any Google app by default, and you can't send texts through the cloud (that's still true, right? need pushbullet or something?). Seems like just another dumb fringe thing most people don't actually care about, and if you do care, there's an app for it. iOS backs up texts with full backups of your phone, but also doesn't have any syncing or specific text backup afaik. It's crazy because it's a minor thing that's a big headache to people when they switch devices. They could make this seamless AND offer cloud messaging with little effort. Then they would be primed to do something like iMessage.
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RVProfootballer posted:Why is it crazy? SMS don't go through any Google app by default, and you can't send texts through the cloud (that's still true, right? need pushbullet or something?). Seems like just another dumb fringe thing most people don't actually care about, and if you do care, there's an app for it. iOS backs up texts with full backups of your phone, but also doesn't have any syncing or specific text backup afaik. I think the SMS db is managed by Android no matter which app you use, no?
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Regarding the nexus 6 issue, it's bizarre- no other app combination does it, but the second I start Pokémon go I lose all cell connectivity. It will come back eventually (like 15 seconds or so). Why Pokémon GO specifically? Google maps doesn't do anything but if I so much as look at the Pokémon go app, it's like my cell antenna shuts off.. bizarre
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Thermopyle posted:I think the SMS db is managed by Android no matter which app you use, no? No idea, but sounds reasonable. Though a quick search makes me think not necessarily? Textra for example might use their own db, at least. But I don't actually know. So this is definitely an exaggeration, but to me expecting Google to do cloud backup of SMS by default is sort of like expecting them to do Facebook Messenger cloud backup or phone call transcription and backup. If you were using Google's messaging app, you would be getting cloud backup and messaging. It would be nice if they had some backup option for SMS, but you're not using a Google app to message, so why should you expect them to take care of it. Anyway, there still isn't a full phone backup and restore process in place (right?), which is much more unambiguously something Google should do imo.
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