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hihifellow posted:When my current employer asked why I left my previous job I ended up telling them I was termed and gave them some of the details, plus what I learned from it. I guess they took from it I was the victim of politics since my record up until then was exemplary. Worked out for the best cause I found out my previous employer was/is looking at having my current employer backfill my old position and now I get to avoid a really awkward situation! That would be amazing, you get fired and then they accidentally hire you back and probably just go "oh."
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angry armadillo posted:What is the world of IT like in Australia. I have the opportunity to do some work over there later in the year. The Australian government regularly publishes a list of skilled occupations they are lacking manpower for, all flavours of IT are currently on that list so if you want to move there this is a great time to do so. Here''s the list https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/SOL
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I have a friend in IT in Australia and it sounds great. Cool cities, great pay, nice benefits etc. Anectdotal from 1 person but yeah.
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Aug 3, 2016 19:26
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What they don't mention is that the manpower is needed at some sheep station in the middle of the Sturt Stony Desert. Something about rebooting their DSL modem. EDIT: Real talk. I would go to Australia in a heartbeat.
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a cop posted:I have a friend in IT in Australia and it sounds great. Cool cities, great pay, nice benefits etc. Anectdotal from 1 person but yeah. Counterpoint: spiders that attack, kill, and eat birds.
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However! Like every former British colony, Australians are obsessed with their red tape and all other things associated with bureaucracy. For example, I had the unfortunate pleasure of dealing with an Australian ISP. If you ask them to provision a circuit for your shiny new branch office, it will take them about 8 months to deliver said circuit. It will take them 8 months and 8 teams and if asked if any of these teams can work in parallel to speed up the process they will laugh. The Australian bureaucracy will not be rushed because a team delivering a fiber connection in your server room cannot be expected to terminate said fiber in the CPE a previous team deployed there 3 weeks ago.
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Sprechensiesexy posted:Like every former British colony, Australians are obsessed with their red tape and all other things associated with bureaucracy. For example, I had the unfortunate pleasure of dealing with an Australian ISP. If you ask them to provision a circuit for your shiny new branch office, it will take them about 8 months to deliver said circuit. It will take them 8 months and 8 teams and if asked if any of these teams can work in parallel to speed up the process they will laugh. The Australian bureaucracy will not be rushed because a team delivering a fiber connection in your server room cannot be expected to terminate said fiber in the CPE a previous team deployed there 3 weeks ago. In Canada we got a new circuit for a new office in like under 2 weeks, I dunno what you're talking about 
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CLAM DOWN posted:In Canada we got a new circuit for a new office in like under 2 weeks, I dunno what you're talking about Good on you mate, have some ice hockey to celebrate eh? I'm talking about the Indias, Australias, Myanmars and Hong Kongs of this world where her majesty's bureaucratic legacy still can be felt.
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There's a few Aussies in our London office, and two of them think the third isn't a real Australian because they don't know what a goon sack is.
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So, thanks everyone. I am gonna take a week or two off to get my head screwed on right and then start to look for stuff. Mental health needs to come first.
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high six posted:Mental health needs to come first.
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Vulture Culture posted:yes, don't DAF what ever happened to that guy? I know he got permabanned, but has he managed to pop up anywhere? I hope he's stabilized
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ZetsurinPower posted:what ever happened to that guy? I know he got permabanned, but has he managed to pop up anywhere? I hope he's stabilized He actually got perma'd? I thought he just banned himself from this thread?
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Thanks Ants posted:There's a few Aussies in our London office, and two of them think the third isn't a real Australian because they don't know what a goon sack is. That's the bag inside a box of Franzia, right?
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MF_James posted:He actually got perma'd? I thought he just banned himself from this thread? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3768480&pagenumber=98&perpage=40#post457541051 
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CLAM DOWN posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3768480&pagenumber=98&perpage=40#post457541051 end of an era I tried to find a smilie that was :pouroneoutforthehomies: but nothing seems fitting 
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I diagrammed some cabling and took pictures. Today, I was being told that something wasn't cabled. And I basically proceeded to make a whiny rear end of myself going no it's cabled I know it was I looked at it I have pictures and diagrams waaaahhh! Then I sat down for my final "see! look at the pictures!" and finally notice that no, that isn't cabled. Of for god's sake, remote hands could someone plug in some fiber because I am just the worst. Time to slink away, slink away.
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Updating the ol' resume for the first time since getting this job. Got to completely remove the lovely retail place I worked at 3+ years ago and all references to my college job. Now there's just two actual IT jobs on there!  Realtalk though, I'm fudging my job title on the resume for my current job, is that actually as common and risk-free as you people make it out to be? (I went from Sr Helpdesk Associate to Jr Systems Administrator and I am confident I have the skills to back that up.) EDIT: Also I want to add a link to my BitBucket "portfolio" to my LinkedIn and I just realized that my avatar on that is  and I'm not sure if I want to change it. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Aug 4, 2016 |
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high six posted:So, thanks everyone. I am gonna take a week or two off to get my head screwed on right and then start to look for stuff. Mental health needs to come first. Arrested DevOps just did a "CareerOps" podcast that wasn't bad if you want to see your next steps after getting fired / how to recover and get back out there. CareerOps
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Inspector_666 posted:Updating the ol' resume for the first time since getting this job. Got to completely remove the lovely retail place I worked at 3+ years ago and all references to my college job. Be careful with that, they're gonna find out what your job title(s) were when they call your former employer to verify employment records. Best way I found to do it is like; code:
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hihifellow posted:Be careful with that, they're gonna find out what your job title(s) were when they call your former employer to verify employment records. Best way I found to do it is like; Yeah, this is what I figured. I've stripped out all of the desktop support stuff at this point anyway. EDIT: At least my current fuckshit dumb title has "Senior" in it. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Aug 4, 2016 |
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Aug 4, 2016 04:30
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bite the bullet, take the time to hire a good candidate and make your poo poo one redundant when it's clear based on performance that he's no longer needed in the current position.
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hihifellow posted:Be careful with that, they're gonna find out what your job title(s) were when they call your former employer to verify employment records. Best way I found to do it is like; Chickenwalker posted:Any thoughts on why it's so hard to find good people for this line of work? I have a theory that we're getting consistently bad people because we're hiring from the wrong places (i.e. job boards that are geared more to the field we're in than general business/IT) and because tech has a tendency to attract people who aren't really all about professionalism and work ethic. I've been through three junior techs now who just didn't have the attention to detail needed for the work, wouldn't complete assignments on time, and ignored or didn't pay attention to direct instructions. anthonypants fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Aug 4, 2016 |
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I have a phone interview for a jr devops engineer. specifically they want someone with exposure to rhel/centos, scripting, etc. I was honest in my cover letter about being self taught and still very green on scripting but they still want to talk 
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Eonwe posted:I have a phone interview for a jr devops engineer. specifically they want someone with exposure to rhel/centos, scripting, etc. I was honest in my cover letter about being self taught and still very green on scripting but they still want to talk Honesty, eagerness, attitude, and willingness to learn are all waaaaaaay more important than current skills/knowledge. So good job buddy 
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Yeah, I've worked with some people who went to school for Linux, and they're really really good at very specific tasks, and fail miserably at everything outside of their area of expertise.
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hihifellow posted:Be careful with that, they're gonna find out what your job title(s) were when they call your former employer to verify employment records. Best way I found to do it is like; It varies from state to state in the US, but I know in MD that an employer can only confirm that you worked for them during a certain time period. Job titles, duties, and salaries are off limits.
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Sanity check: I was just talking to a recruiter about a "Operating Systems Manager" job, the position is at a bank, oversees 4 people, and is responsible for managing software deployments and patching across some 30-odd branches. The recruiter says the starting salary is $56k. I feel like this is ridiculously low.
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Is it in Arkansas or something?
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The Fool posted:Sanity check: I was just talking to a recruiter about a "Operating Systems Manager" job, the position is at a bank, oversees 4 people, and is responsible for managing software deployments and patching across some 30-odd branches. The recruiter says the starting salary is $56k. That is ridiculously low.
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The Fool posted:Sanity check: I was just talking to a recruiter about a "Operating Systems Manager" job, the position is at a bank, oversees 4 people, and is responsible for managing software deployments and patching across some 30-odd branches. The recruiter says the starting salary is $56k. Where?
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psydude posted:It varies from state to state in the US, but I know in MD that an employer can only confirm that you worked for them during a certain time period. Job titles, duties, and salaries are off limits. That is not actually true. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/employee-rights-book/chapter9-6.html
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The Nards Pan posted:That is not actually true. I forgot termination, which could of course be linked to job performance. Still, all four employers I've had in this state won't comment on your duties, compensation, or job title.
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anthonypants posted:Whenever this question comes up in these threads, the general consensus is typically that your wages are too low. This more often than not. It also depends on what you're hiring for. Our company pay averages higher than average for our area and we'd been looking more than six months for a senior level guy and finally made an offer last week. Up until then, just about everyone was either an entry level that was shotgunning resumes out, entry-to-intermediate that was lying on their resume (which becomes painfully obvious during the interview), or intermediate levels that were a bit more deficient on experience/knowledge than we were comfortable with and we felt it would take too long to get them up to speed. As you start looking for senior/advanced level specialists the talent pool shrinks significantly. Either they're where they want to be, or they find it more lucrative to work as consultants. Two observations: If you put it on the resume, expect to be asked about it in detail. Doubly so if you bold it. I'm still flabbergasted that people put skills on their resume that they don't have. Most people think they understand wireless networking at an expert level. Most people are wrong. psydude posted:This is a good reference, thanks for posting. Most won't. Not because they're limited legally, but because they don't want to open themselves up for a lawsuit. A lot of employers will only validate that an employee worked for them from X date to Y date. Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Aug 4, 2016 |
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Chickenwalker posted:Any thoughts on why it's so hard to find good people for this line of work? I have a theory that we're getting consistently bad people because we're hiring from the wrong places (i.e. job boards that are geared more to the field we're in than general business/IT) and because tech has a tendency to attract people who aren't really all about professionalism and work ethic. I've been through three junior techs now who just didn't have the attention to detail needed for the work, wouldn't complete assignments on time, and ignored or didn't pay attention to direct instructions. You're not paying well enough.
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flosofl posted:Most won't. Not because they're limited legally, but because they don't want to open themselves up for a lawsuit. A lot of employers will only validate that an employee worked for them from X date to Y date. The larger your employer is, the less likely that they do this for two primary reasons: First, if they are in multiple states, it costs a lot of money to maintain an on-going compliance with each states' rules - not just from HR, but training managers and such what to say when this inquiry comes in. No state bars them from giving the absolute minimum, so it's cheaper to just say "You tell them the dates and then act like you're deaf and dumb." Next, The lawsuit angle that Flosofl noted. In some states, it is cause for harm if your statement varied from someone elses'. If yours was overly negative and someone elses' was overly positive, this can be brought before a claims judge. I haven't seen any of these won (only been involved in three, though), but it's still time and money the company would rather not spend. It basically boils down to an overall nuisance for the company and a rare voluntary compliance cost.
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SEKCobra posted:That would be amazing, you get fired and then they accidentally hire you back and probably just go "oh." I didn't get fired but my $employer-1 is asking my $employer to fill my position. Guess who has the best credentials... I'm doing contracting/consulting at the moment while I had a permanent position at $employer-1. I needed a change of scenery even though my colleagues were ok (but mostly incompetent). I more or less quit because of rear end in a top hat manager who is now gone. My current gig most likely ends in december. I don't really want to go back, unless I get payed 50% more than what I get now. I know they've hired people with that hourly, and if I do end up back there that'd mean I'd get a rediculous bonus (think boatsized). Difficult choice. I don't want to go back there though....
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