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Bofast posted:Maybe if they manage to squeeze in a 32 core CPU on AM5, otherwise 170W TPD seems kind of out there. 170W is just the design maximum of that socket right?
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I hope AMD has a similar thing to Epyc where the CPU is in a plastic frame that you slide into the lid/frame, and then swing it down to clamp it. I much prefer that to the Intel style "just put it in the socket and clamp the lid", especially when removing the processor.
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Paul MaudDib posted:I hope AMD has a similar thing to Epyc where the CPU is in a plastic frame that you slide into the lid/frame, and then swing it down to clamp it. I much prefer that to the Intel style "just put it in the socket and clamp the lid", especially when removing the processor. Yeah it's a nice design and difficult to gently caress up! Kinda makes them like little cartridges. (not pentium II style tho)
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Honestly, anything that prevents the cooler from ripping the CPU out due to crusted paste is a big improvement. No PCI-E 5? Don't care. Would much rather have a strong DDR5 implementation (recall the temperamental IMCs on Zen 1). Navi APUs with that sweet DDR5 bandwidth are going to be lit!
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How come HP has a line of Envy laptops with oled, and they remove the oled option the minute you try to spec from Intel to Ryzen? Is there some technical reason or did they promise Intel they'd put AMD customers in coach?
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Zero VGS posted:How come HP has a line of Envy laptops with oled, and they remove the oled option the minute you try to spec from Intel to Ryzen? Is there some technical reason or did they promise Intel they'd put AMD customers in coach? without getting too deep in the weeds, there is a long history of Intel using soft-power strongarming to force OEMs to make their AMD-equipped products just that much worse than their Intel counterparts
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taqueso posted:170W is just the design maximum of that socket right? That could also be the case, yeah, to account for turbo power draw and such.
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Also not remotely a crazy number if core counts rise to something like 12/16/20/24. The current 12 and 16 core chips sit at 142w stock tdp already.
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Time to rip some threads? https://twitter.com/AMD/status/1395392492690984969
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Do you remember when you thought that Threadripper was a stupid name?
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I still do tbh. Epyc also sucks. Ryzen also sucks. Xeon also sucks. Core iX also sucks. GeForce also sucks. Computer part names are so bad.
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FrantzX posted:Do you remember when you thought that Threadripper was a stupid name? Nope, it was always cool
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80386, now that's a name
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Why not pick a name that's gender-neutral, like "Patrick/Patricia", or the most common name in the world, Mohammed?
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Fat Agnus forever.
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Oh hell yes I loved our A500. Upgraded the RAM, got an extra 3.5” floppy drive.. it was the best.
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Tasmania Timezone what? --edit: Or Turkish? I guess it could also be Taipei, which is likely.
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I think “ry-zen” is cute. most are really really dumb, though.
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As the owner of a video card that has a lady-elf holding a lazer pistol on the shroud, I can tell you all that Threadripper is a loving fantastic name.
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I thought Ryzen was a fine name, if only because of the kind of self-aware joking-not-joking of AMD processors having risen again. EPYC and Threadripper are a bit crass, but could be worse. Athlon, Sempron, and Opteron seemed like they were using some kind of Autobot naming scheme. Phenom was a good name. At the rate they're going I wouldn't be surprised to see the AM5 workstation chips be KICKASS or RAGEMODE or something.
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CACHETHRASHER CORECRUSHER MIPSTWISTER HERTZFUCKER
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Athlon, Sempron, and Opteron seemed like they were using some kind of Autobot naming scheme. Phenom was a good name. Duron was the worst of these. No idea why, but I always imagined that if cpus were people duron would have an absolutely massive, weird looking forehead. It's just the feel of the word..... duron.... loving terrible.
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You couldn't re-release Sempron today without a zillion instant jokes about "Simp-ron"
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BrainDance posted:Duron was the worst of these. No idea why, but I always imagined that if cpus were people duron would have an absolutely massive, weird looking forehead. They always sucked, too, didn't they? I think it didn't come to mind because Duron became something that just meant "avoid" to me for many years. For a long time Celeron occupied the same space for me. gradenko_2000 posted:You couldn't re-release Sempron today without a zillion instant jokes about "Simp-ron" I almost made a simpering Sempron joke in there, too. As memory serves it was just their name for their mobile processors, and since I generally avoided laptops rarely ran across them.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:As memory serves it was just their name for their mobile processors, and since I generally avoided laptops rarely ran across them. Nope! Sempron was their budget/low-power processor line, but there were a bunch of desktop processors. The branding carried as far as the FM2 and AM3 sockets, with Sempron models that were dual-core Bulldozer CPUs for the former, or single-core K10 CPUs for the latter.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:They always sucked, too, didn't they? I think it didn't come to mind because Duron became something that just meant "avoid" to me for many years. For a long time Celeron occupied the same space for me. there were a bunch of socketed APUs released with Sempron branding as well, I think it was just a "downmarket" branding that slotted in under the Athlon. celeron vs pentium is probably the correct way to think about that branding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_units
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CaptainSarcastic posted:They always sucked, too, didn't they? I think it didn't come to mind because Duron became something that just meant "avoid" to me for many years. For a long time Celeron occupied the same space for me. Much like early Celerons, Durons were monster overclockers which offset the performance hit from having less cache compared to similarly rated Athlons, and then some.
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If you had a Duron, and didn’t unlock it with a pencil, you never really had a Duron.
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B-1.1.7 Bomber posted:If you had a Duron, and didn’t unlock it with a pencil, you never really had a Duron. Now I'm having flashbacks to FSB overclocking my Duron and burning out a floppy disk drive because the PCI clock was not separate from the FSB clock on that particular motherboard and ended up being higher than the floppy disk drive could handle.  Also, I liked Duron as a name.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:At the rate they're going I wouldn't be surprised to see the AM5 workstation chips be KICKASS or RAGEMODE or something. I can't believe you missed it AMD posted:Maximize Performance with “Rage Mode”, Exclusively on the Radeon™ RX 6800 XT Graphics Card https://community.amd.com/t5/blogs/maximize-performance-with-rage-mode-exclusively-on-the-radeon-rx/ba-p/422790
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I had a fan die on a machine with a mobile duron and before I noticed the CPU literally melted itself. I guess they didn't shut down when thermals got wild fast enough back then?
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AMD was way behind, they didn't have thermal management worth a drat until Ryzen. IIRC Intel started doing it properly with the Core CPUs. Nowadays you can pull the HSF right off the CPU under load and it will throttle fast enough to avoid damage, but before this CPUs would literally explode from the heat.
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BrainDance posted:I had a fan die on a machine with a mobile duron and before I noticed the CPU literally melted itself. Nope  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf0VuRG7MN4
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Around the same time finnish computer magazine did a similar test with a thermal camera, but they started the computers without heatsink. IIRC, a P4 reached about a 100°C within a minute before turning off. Athlon on the other hand reached something like 250-300°C in 10 seconds and failed.
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NewFatMike posted:I can't believe you missed it Nah, I was aware of that, just thought they could also name a CPU the same thing. Computer part naming is approaching a singularity, anyway.
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BrainDance posted:I had a fan die on a machine with a mobile duron and before I noticed the CPU literally melted itself. This exact thing happened to the Athlon TBird in our family PC. Just went from fine to smoke coming out in an instant.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Nah, I was aware of that, just thought they could also name a CPU the same thing. Computer part naming is approaching a singularity, anyway. drat right, next gen ryzens will presumably include a 6800X part, and if they release a refresh like they did with the 3800XT, AMD will have a CPU with the exact name as one of their current GPUs. 
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