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Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Anyone want to get a couple practice games in in a few hours? I have some things I want to test. I'll be in the steam group chat room.

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Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




A local game store is going to be running a bit of a crazy tournament. 150 point lists, with all faction requirements removed. You can use any ships, and all faction requirements from upgrade cards are removed. It is also 3 rounds of 60 minutes each. That should mean every game goes to time with those list counts.

I am not sure where to even start, other than using Palpatine on either a Hell Bus, or Lothal Rebel. The thought of 2 IG-88s backed up by one of those sounds pretty tough.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





My answer to those things is always a Biggs, Howlrunner, Serissu, black crack swarm.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
150 points with no faction limits?

How many jumpmasters can you fit in one list with a palp shuttle?

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





thespaceinvader posted:

150 points with no faction limits?

How many jumpmasters can you fit in one list with a palp shuttle?

Four, but you'll have to sacrifice a bit on one.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

thespaceinvader posted:

150 points with no faction limits?

How many jumpmasters can you fit in one list with a palp shuttle?

Four, because that's the most of any one kind of large ship you can play in an X-wing tournament setting.

Cobbsprite
May 6, 2012

Threatening stuffed animals for fun and profit.

thespaceinvader posted:

150 points with no faction limits?

How many jumpmasters can you fit in one list with a palp shuttle?

Wrong question. You can run eight Alpha Squadron Pilots and REK FACES.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
5 Onyx Squads with /x7.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




I'm locked out of my FF XIV account so does anyone wanna compare wangs in TTS?

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded
I want another big ship to fly with my Hounds Tooth for a 'reluctant bounty hunter allies' list, so which is simpler to fly well, the Punishing One or the IG-2000?

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Punishing One. Good dial, primary weapon turret.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Yep, definitely P1. Bossk/Dengar and Latts/Dengar are both very solid lists. Latts in particular is a mean-as-poo poo ace hunter.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
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Admiral Joeslop posted:

I'm locked out of my FF XIV account so does anyone wanna compare wangs in TTS?

I'm game.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded
Thanks, the Punishing One looks better too so that's perfect.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Vitamin P posted:

Thanks, the Punishing One looks better too so that's perfect.

No worries, shout if you want build help.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
Is there a good two ship list with Punishing One and Mist Hunter?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Doubtful, I don't think you can make the mist hunter durable enough to spend 40+ points on it.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
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Some Numbers posted:

Is there a good two ship list with Punishing One and Mist Hunter?

Mist Hunters are pretty fragile (kinda like B-Wings) and building them up to 40ish points is rarely a good idea.

That said, super dengar + railgun zuckuss isn't bad.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f...amed%20Squadron

With Dengar, you try to arc dodge and get close for those big shots. If you MUST get shot, make sure they're in arc so you get the return fire.

Zuckuss basically wants a TL and a focus every turn. Then you're rolling 4-5 dice on every attack, fully modified. Cloaking Device is your get in or get out card--you can only count on it once, but it's probably gonna work a few times. Consider Hot Shot Blaster instead, if you worry about arc dodgers.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

ConfusedUs posted:

Mist Hunters are pretty fragile (kinda like B-Wings) and building them up to 40ish points is rarely a good idea.

That said, super dengar + railgun zuckuss isn't bad.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f...amed%20Squadron

With Dengar, you try to arc dodge and get close for those big shots. If you MUST get shot, make sure they're in arc so you get the return fire.

Zuckuss basically wants a TL and a focus every turn. Then you're rolling 4-5 dice on every attack, fully modified. Cloaking Device is your get in or get out card--you can only count on it once, but it's probably gonna work a few times. Consider Hot Shot Blaster instead, if you worry about arc dodgers.

RecSpec/R4 Agromech works better than Unhinged/K4 IME, but I usually run Dengar with VI, so...

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

thespaceinvader posted:

Doubtful, I don't think you can make the mist hunter durable enough to spend 40+ points on it.

So many builds that would be kinda viable if Scum just had a Biggs

What would Scum Biggs do? Friendly ships in range 1 can put damage on him?

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

General Battuta posted:

So many builds that would be kinda viable if Scum just had a Biggs

What would Scum Biggs do? Friendly ships in range 1 can put damage on him?

Scum Biggs would 100% be "can't be targeted if another friendly ship is at range 1 and can also be targeted"

Like the hypothetical Lieutenant Telsij from earlier in the thread.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

Strobe posted:

Scum Biggs would 100% be "can't be targeted if another friendly ship is at range 1 and can also be targeted"

Like the hypothetical Lieutenant Telsij from earlier in the thread.

Well, yeah, but that's no good for protecting expensive low-survivability ship. Biggs is great cause he lets you run X-Wings and HWKs (and Ghosts), I mean what would Scum have that could help a G1A build survive?

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
That's not really their schtick, though. Serissu is the closest they get.

There might be something interesting in crew options, with something like "When defending, if you have already defended this round, you may roll an additional defense die."

Cobbsprite
May 6, 2012

Threatening stuffed animals for fun and profit.

thespaceinvader posted:

RecSpec/R4 Agromech works better than Unhinged/K4 IME, but I usually run Dengar with VI, so...

I got so much mileage out of Dengar with a mad damage setup. Deadeye, Overclock, Protons, Chimps, Fett. Deadeye fires the proton torpedoes, Overclocked R4 lets me take the focus token back, Guidance Chips lets me ensure an additional hit/crit, Fett strips an upgrade if I want him to, and I either have the focus token to use on my backfire attack (if I didn't have to use it on the torpedo shot) or I can use Overclocked R4 again to pull it back. If you want to, you could double-fire the proton torpedoes with Deadeye and use that single focus token a total of FOUR times. (You'd have a buttload of stress, but there's a lot of green on his dial, really.)

That's 54 points for what amounts to one REALLY nasty opening-round shot. It's demoralizing to see what that thing can do. And it's enough to shove your illict of choice into the Jumpmaster with four bugzappers as your anvil, or throw on the Punishing One title and have three bugzappers. Any way you turn, that's a vicious faceoff.

Dengar (33)
Deadeye (1)
Extra Munitions (2)
Proton Torpedoes (4)
Boba Fett (1)
Overclocked R4 (1)
Guidance Chips (0)
Punishing One (12)

Total: 54

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



General Battuta posted:

Well, yeah, but that's no good for protecting expensive low-survivability ship. Biggs is great cause he lets you run X-Wings and HWKs (and Ghosts), I mean what would Scum have that could help a G1A build survive?

Here's an idea off the top of my head that feels appropriately scum-like.

Neutronium Shielding

Illicit, 3 points
Once per round, when defending cancel ALL results during the "compare results step." Then deal one face-up damage card to your ship. This card cannot be discardeded, turned face down, or otherwise modified this turn.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
I like it except for the "gently caress you Boba Fett" deliberate silver bullet. It's not really necessary.

Cobbsprite
May 6, 2012

Threatening stuffed animals for fun and profit.

Strobe posted:

I like it except for the "gently caress you Boba Fett" deliberate silver bullet. It's not really necessary.

It's one point, and with this setup you're looking at having about four points left over with the Illicit and Crew slots open. I like Fett because you can use one of your massive target swats to neutralize something before it gets a chance to be nasty. I've used it to pull a Twin Laser Turret off a Y-Wing, which meant at that point I could ignore him until the end of the match, and to pull Hound's Tooth off a Bossk Bus. Both of those INFURIATED the other player, and were well worth it. For one point? I like the insurance having him around.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Cobbsprite posted:

Wrong question. You can run eight Alpha Squadron Pilots and REK FACES.

yessssssss

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Cobbsprite posted:

It's one point, and with this setup you're looking at having about four points left over with the Illicit and Crew slots open. I like Fett because you can use one of your massive target swats to neutralize something before it gets a chance to be nasty. I've used it to pull a Twin Laser Turret off a Y-Wing, which meant at that point I could ignore him until the end of the match, and to pull Hound's Tooth off a Bossk Bus. Both of those INFURIATED the other player, and were well worth it. For one point? I like the insurance having him around.

No I meant on his hypothetical upgrade where if you use it, it can't be discarded with Boba Fett. That's dumb.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



That wasn't the intent. I was just trying to word it so no matter what you couldn't cancel the crit, making it a gamble.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Strobe posted:

No I meant on his hypothetical upgrade where if you use it, it can't be discarded with Boba Fett. That's dumb.

He means the damage card, not the upgrade card.

lazerus06
May 19, 2004
I flew this against my friend last night. He flew Tycho, Jake, and Ezra on a shuttle. I parked Bossk and let his Awings come to me. I had a real good roll with my HLC in the second round and one shotted Tycho.
Dengar
- punishing one title
-VI
-K4
-Unhinged Asteomech

Bossk
-Calculation
-HLC
-4Lom
-K4
-Recon Specialist

Cobbsprite
May 6, 2012

Threatening stuffed animals for fun and profit.

Strobe posted:

No I meant on his hypothetical upgrade where if you use it, it can't be discarded with Boba Fett. That's dumb.

Not quite sure what you mean here, then.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Unclear antecedents. I was under the impression that the upgrade card couldn't be discarded, which looked like a deliberate "gently caress you" to the Boba crew.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





The Gate posted:

Hey hey! I'm actually going to be at home today, if you want to get ours in. This week has been busy as hell for me.:v:

What's your plan, stan? When are we doing this thing?

Slab Squatthrust
Jun 3, 2008

This is mutiny!

ConfusedUs posted:

What's your plan, stan? When are we doing this thing?

Maybe in the next few, I'll hit you up on Steam? We've ended up surprise dog sitting for some friends so was a little busier than expected.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





The Gate posted:

Maybe in the next few, I'll hit you up on Steam? We've ended up surprise dog sitting for some friends so was a little busier than expected.

PM me here. I'm watching a movie and don't have steam up in a place I can see it.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





ConfusedUs vs The Gate is a 100-25 win for ConfusedUs.

88b evaporated under a couple of homing missiles. 88c managed to survive several range 1 autoblaster attacks with no damage, even with TLs and stuff, but eventually fell.

Airen got 1-shot by 88C.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Cobbsprite posted:

I got so much mileage out of Dengar with a mad damage setup. Deadeye, Overclock, Protons, Chimps, Fett. Deadeye fires the proton torpedoes, Overclocked R4 lets me take the focus token back, Guidance Chips lets me ensure an additional hit/crit, Fett strips an upgrade if I want him to, and I either have the focus token to use on my backfire attack (if I didn't have to use it on the torpedo shot) or I can use Overclocked R4 again to pull it back. If you want to, you could double-fire the proton torpedoes with Deadeye and use that single focus token a total of FOUR times. (You'd have a buttload of stress, but there's a lot of green on his dial, really.)

That's 54 points for what amounts to one REALLY nasty opening-round shot. It's demoralizing to see what that thing can do. And it's enough to shove your illict of choice into the Jumpmaster with four bugzappers as your anvil, or throw on the Punishing One title and have three bugzappers. Any way you turn, that's a vicious faceoff.

Dengar (33)
Deadeye (1)
Extra Munitions (2)
Proton Torpedoes (4)
Boba Fett (1)
Overclocked R4 (1)
Guidance Chips (0)
Punishing One (12)

Total: 54

I don't think it's worth putting Torps on Dengar. He burns through them too quickly, and his primary with P1 is almost as good, especially as you should be able to guarantee range 1 anyway. It's a hell of a punch, though, if you can't.

I don't think we'll ever see a Scum Biggs, although I suspect Fenn Rau will serve a similar purpose at any time when he's not at range 1, because people will be DESPERATE to kill him before he gets there...

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Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


Naboo Open (copenhagen) day 2 if anyone is interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aX0rfc89TE

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