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NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




My Dunkerque cost a rank 21 goon a star. It's still pretty good in ranked.

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Durendal
Jan 25, 2008

Who made you God to say
"I'll take your sheep from you?"




:hellyeah:

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




If anyone remembers General_Heinz_Guderian from tanks I just spotted him in a Nagato "escorting" our Ranger and giving out orders to the entire team on Two Brothers, while someone on the other team explains to me that Heinz Guderian was not a war crminal, and anyone who thinks otherwise has been suckered by NKVD propaganda

Thronde
Aug 4, 2012

Fun Shoe

NTRabbit posted:

My Dunkerque cost a rank 21 goon a star. It's still pretty good in ranked.

You really are a special kind of stupid. You don't lose stars at rank 21.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:
Has anyone played CVs in the latest patch yet? Everyone is saying the changes to XP and credits really hosed over CVs hard and I want to know how true it is.

Aesis
Oct 9, 2012
Filthy J4G

Thronde posted:

You really are a special kind of stupid. You don't lose stars at rank 21.
:allears:

kaesarsosei
Nov 7, 2012

Insert name here posted:

Has anyone played CVs in the latest patch yet? Everyone is saying the changes to XP and credits really hosed over CVs hard and I want to know how true it is.

Yes they got hosed and this is a timely example.






So a loving Murmansk with no kills got more base XP. I even helped cap the base and wasn't too far away from Clear Sky, plus two of the ships I sank were DDs. I was running Premium Account and +100% First Win bonus. Total joke.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Thronde posted:

You really are a special kind of stupid. You don't lose stars at rank 21.

Because defeating him did not at all cost him the chance to actually win that star? Are you really having to reach that hard to find a new way to take cheap shots?

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Oct 2, 2016

Hazdoc
Nov 8, 2012

Muscovy Ducks are a large tropical breed, famous for their lean and extremely flavorful meat.

Hazduck!

~SMcD

NTRabbit posted:

Because defeating him did not at all cost him the chance to actually win that star? Are you really having to reach that hard to find a new way to take cheap shots?

There goes the goalposts, off into the next zip code.

Krogort
Oct 27, 2013

kaesarsosei posted:

Yes they got hosed and this is a timely example.


Every ship got hosed.
I make less XP than I used to with every ship I use even when playing agressively.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Krogort posted:

Every ship got hosed.
I make less XP than I used to with every ship I use even when playing agressively.

Gee, this seems like a good time to make mention of those flag packages in the Premium store. :v:

Elusif
Jun 9, 2008

Krogort posted:

Every ship got hosed.
I make less XP than I used to with every ship I use even when playing agressively.

I make considerably more because I do lots of spotting, I use fighter loadouts, and I drive ships that can take a lot of damage. That spotting xp is delightful.

kaesarsosei
Nov 7, 2012
Yes it really does feel like XP across the board is down, but more so for CVs. I don't think I'm cynical enough to blame any malice on WG's part, yet. I'm hoping they tweak the numbers up a bit in a later patch.

Devorum
Jul 30, 2005

So this is my first time trying out Ranked, and it seems to be Bayerns all the way down so far.

Are there any boats I should absolutely avoid bringing? I brought an Ognevoi once and this one dude bitched at me the entire time for not rushing across open sea to torp a group of 3 Bayerns and how only an idiot would bring an Ognevoi to ranked.

Am I the idiot?

Minenfeld!
Aug 21, 2012



What in the flying gently caress is this all about? How seriously do people take games?

Hazdoc
Nov 8, 2012

Muscovy Ducks are a large tropical breed, famous for their lean and extremely flavorful meat.

Hazduck!

~SMcD

Devorum posted:

So this is my first time trying out Ranked, and it seems to be Bayerns all the way down so far.

Are there any boats I should absolutely avoid bringing? I brought an Ognevoi once and this one dude bitched at me the entire time for not rushing across open sea to torp a group of 3 Bayerns and how only an idiot would bring an Ognevoi to ranked.

Am I the idiot?

No, but the Ognevoi isn't an amazing pick. Its workable, at least, but much of Ranked is contesting points and being hard to kill. Hence, why Bayerns and Farraguts are the ships of choice. Farraguts are the best point contesters (good concealment and they can definitely outgun the other DDs at their detection radius), and Bayerns have the bullshit German armor we know and hate, plus are speedier than New Mexicos, so they aren't sitting ducks for torpedoes.

The Ognevoi needs to play an aggro drawing role while lighting BBs up when its ignored, or smoke up and shoot if you're being denied too much. If no CAs are around and the BBs are occupied, you can bully DDs off caps, especially Mutsukis, which is important since Mutsukis will be looking to feast on all the horrendous BB players in Ranked right now.

The Molotov is also a good choice, as it has great range and stupidly good guns. It dies if it gets hit, but so do all the other CAs at this tier, so its a moot point. The Cleveland is the most well armored of the CAs here, but due to its citadel being changed, its not quite as hardy as before. Still a good choice if you see CVs in queue. Though you probably should just pick a Bayern and slam your head into Ranked until you hit 15 and are free.

Hazdoc fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Oct 2, 2016

Elusif
Jun 9, 2008

Theres a rule against enemy CVs colluding?

Hazdoc
Nov 8, 2012

Muscovy Ducks are a large tropical breed, famous for their lean and extremely flavorful meat.

Hazduck!

~SMcD

E Equals MC Hammer posted:

Theres a rule against enemy CVs colluding?

There's a rule against CVs on opposing teams to collude, like saying "lets not kill each other's planes or bomb each other" (you can be banned, its definitely reportable via ticket). There is NO rule against allied CVs cooperating, that's utter madness. Allied CVs SHOULD be planning their strikes together to minimize the amount of damage their planes take and efficiently defend with fighters, though that's a crapshoot with pubbies.

Devorum
Jul 30, 2005

Hazdoc posted:

No, but the Ognevoi isn't an amazing pick. Its workable, at least, but much of Ranked is contesting points and being hard to kill. Hence, why Bayerns and Farraguts are the ships of choice. Farraguts are the best point contesters (good concealment and they can definitely outgun the other DDs at their detection radius), and Bayerns have the bullshit German armor we know and hate, plus are speedier than New Mexicos, so they aren't sitting ducks for torpedoes.

The Ognevoi needs to play an aggro drawing role while lighting BBs up when its ignored, or smoke up and shoot if you're being denied too much. If no CAs are around and the BBs are occupied, you can bully DDs off caps, especially Mutsukis, which is important since Mutsukis will be looking to feast on all the horrendous BB players in Ranked right now.

The Molotov is also a good choice, as it has great range and stupidly good guns. It dies if it gets hit, but so do all the other CAs at this tier, so its a moot point. The Cleveland is the most well armored of the CAs here, but due to its citadel being changed, its not quite as hardy as before. Still a good choice if you see CVs in queue. Though you probably should just pick a Bayern and slam your head into Ranked until you hit 15 and are free.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was doing in the Ognevoi. Though I suppose I would have better luck in my Farragut. I brought my Dunk once, but it gets hammered hard by the Bayerns and New Mexicos. Considered the Cleveland, but I never seem to do well in it ever.

Thanks for the tips!

Godlessdonut
Sep 13, 2005

If I played CVs, I'd make that deal solely to get the other CV to let his guard down.

Natsuumi
Jun 13, 2003

Natsuumi's gone.
I'm Cherlene now.


I'm a terrible boat driver, but oh my I love the Indianapolis.

Very first battle with it:


Elusif
Jun 9, 2008

I love my konigsberg. I have a 75% winrate in it for some reason despite playing 50ish or so games in it.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
Im bad at this game but i do love it.

Sidesaddle Cavalry
Mar 15, 2013

Oh Boy Desert Map

Minenfeld! posted:

What in the flying gently caress is this all about? How seriously do people take games?

pls don't nerdshame

gym class in junior high was a traumatizing experience that translated physical symptoms over to the rest of my life ok

Magni
Apr 29, 2009
Say what you want about the state of Ranked, but multiple Biskos and Derpitzes getting into a brawl is some great stuff from the visuals alone. It's like something straight out of Battlestar Galactica when all those secondaries open up.

Thronde posted:

You really are a special kind of stupid. You don't lose stars at rank 21.

Yes, you do? You just can't be downranked for losing while having zero stars.

Magni fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Oct 2, 2016

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

You do not. Stars are not lost until rank 19.

Velius
Feb 27, 2001
gently caress pubbies forever. 150k confederate, high calibre, die hard ranked game in my Bayern and my mongoloid teammates manage 1 kill total. I had to kill a Mutsuki and Farragut myself because of how useless my team was.

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
concealment expert for BB?

Hammerstein
May 6, 2005

YOU DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT RACING !
Rule #1 in Ranked: Never do anything for your team !

Why ? Because any advantage you give to the team, will be pissed away by shitlords. I just tanked 1.5 mill damage and drew away almost all the fire of the other team, only for our BBs to run back and hide.

ZombieLenin
Sep 6, 2009

"Democracy for the insignificant minority, democracy for the rich--that is the democracy of capitalist society." VI Lenin


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Aesis posted:

ok, don't use Dunkerque in ranked. poo poo gets penetrated by NM/Bayern all day.

I have played 10 ranked matches so far, 6 in a Dunkerque and 4 in various other ships. Out of those 10 missions I've got 6 wins and 4 losses.

All 6 of those wins were in the Dunkerque.

MadJackMcJack
Jun 10, 2009

Velius posted:

gently caress pubbies forever. 150k confederate, high calibre, die hard ranked game in my Bayern and my mongoloid teammates manage 1 kill total. I had to kill a Mutsuki and Farragut myself because of how useless my team was.

On the other hand, if your teammates were good, you likely wouldn't get 150K damage and a bunch of awards because your team would steal all the kills/damage :colbert:

Kilravock
Jan 27, 2006

We are the hollow men

Hammerstein posted:

Rule #1 in Ranked: Never do anything for your team !

Why ? Because any advantage you give to the team, will be pissed away by shitlords. I just tanked 1.5 mill damage and drew away almost all the fire of the other team, only for our BBs to run back and hide.

No different than with Random battles. Why are you surprised that a game that requires team play has no cooperation between random teammates other than lemming trains and "A or C?". It's not like people are getting tunneled visioned with their own situation and not paying attention to what is going on with other people.

This is a team orientated game full of lone wolfs.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Kilravock posted:

This is a team orientated game full of lone wolfs.

All of whom are convinced beyond all doubts that THEY are the team's *only hope*!

Kilravock
Jan 27, 2006

We are the hollow men

MadJackMcJack posted:

On the other hand, if your teammates were good, you likely wouldn't get 150K damage and a bunch of awards because your team would steal all the kills/damage :colbert:

This 100%. The worst the team does the more likely you will score better if you are lucky or skilled. A good team means damage and cap xp gets spread out more between the players so less for you because you had less impact on the game. High scores are more of an indicator that your team sucked than anything else.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Night10194 posted:

At T3 the St. Louis is basically a better BB than the actual T3 BBs.

At this point the Nassau is actually a contender by virtue of being able to heal itself and have as much firepower bow on as you can get at any non-stupid angle.

The St. Louis still has the benefit of never having to wait a significant amount of time to get turrets on target.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

The St. Louis is considerably worse after the armor fix. They can and possibly will get dunked on by BB AP, and you can't really not turn broadside.

xthetenth fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Oct 2, 2016

Hammerstein
May 6, 2005

YOU DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT RACING !

Kilravock posted:

No different than with Random battles. Why are you surprised that a game that requires team play has no cooperation between random teammates other than lemming trains and "A or C?". It's not like people are getting tunneled visioned with their own situation and not paying attention to what is going on with other people.

This is a team orientated game full of lone wolfs.

I know, I play this horrible game since Alpha. I just need to vent among my goon peers once in a while and come here to dry my tears.

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

Hazdoc posted:

FUCKIN T6 RANKED
I DONT LIKE T6 AND I DONT WANT TO BUY THE MUTSUKI but oh well I guess I should because the Fubuki will be moved there BUT SERIOUSLY gently caress T6

BBs are cancer, german BBs are late stage cancer, its all becoming clear now

If you can't beat 'em join 'em.

I ploughed through T6 ranked. Only lost 2 games.

Also I agree that BBs are really proliferated right now, but honestly I attribute a lot of my success to some good DD play. I had some real good DD drivers provide cover and heavily influence matches. Cruisers though? I don't recall being impressed by any cruisers I saw.

Magni
Apr 29, 2009
I've had a few cases of cruiser players contributing decisively to games in both T6 and T8 ranked. Mostly from torpedo ambushes, radar and Kutuzov using smoke, though. Though there was an Atago who defended a vital capture point by taking the enemy Derpitz looking to cap it on a magical chase around the map while slowly murdering him with HE over ten minutes.

Heartcatch posted:

You do not. Stars are not lost until rank 19.

Huh. Never noticed. :shrug:

Magni fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Oct 2, 2016

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Kilravock
Jan 27, 2006

We are the hollow men

Hammerstein posted:

I know, I play this horrible game since Alpha. I just need to vent among my goon peers once in a while and come here to dry my tears.

I hear you brother. Vent on.

This game has issues, but it's still fun in small amounts. It's like I am only playing right now because of the ranked season. I just spent a month playing the game and was going to set it aside again for a couple more months, but hey I only played the first ranked season so why not try it again, but with better ships. Hooked and baited me. Not buying premium time right now though, that's why I played for a month straight last time. I plan to drop it again when I reach my goal and with no premium I don't feel like I need to play it justify the cost.

quote:

If you can't beat 'em join 'em.

Join the dark side, and let the Meta flow through you.

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