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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Just wait til we literally get Democrats complaining about 'welfare queens'.

I'm sure it's already happened.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Wait, is this supposed to be a smear? Because this just makes me like him even more.

e: As if that were possible.

What the voters identify with are people born middle class with all the resources they'd ever need, not a down on his luck poor sap.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016


From 'Bernie Sanders: From hippie migrant to would-be president'

Washington Post posted:

He told the New York Times he moved to Vermont because he had always been "captivated by rural life." He worked there as a carpenter, filmmaker and writer and became a member of socialist Liberty Union Party.

It sounds like if he was on the dole, it was between and while working jobs. The wing of the party that gutted welfare and social programs would think of it like that, wouldn't they? I guess everyone in government has to be a lawyer to be respectable

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Inescapable Duck posted:

Just wait til we literally get Democrats complaining about 'welfare queens'.

I'm sure it's already happened.

"cadillac" health plans

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Willa Rogers posted:

"cadillac" health plans

I think "crab bucket" health plans are more apropos for dems.

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Inescapable Duck posted:

Just wait til we literally get Democrats complaining about 'welfare queens'.

I'm sure it's already happened.

Clinton's 1996 welfare reform bill used the Welfare Queen Myth to sell it. This was after a decade of it being debunked when Reagan brought it out.

a helpful bear
Aug 18, 2004

Slippery Tilde
sanders took time to consider life and figure out the people instead of ruthlessly pursuing a career path immediately with no second thought?

what a piece of poo poo! hillary was ROBBED of her presidency!

a helpful bear
Aug 18, 2004

Slippery Tilde
"The Hillary Theme Song"

I've been phoning
Night and morning
I heard you say
"Tell him I'm not home"

Now you're confessing
But I'm still guessing
I've been your fool
For so, so long

Girl don't lie
Just to save my feelings
Girl don't cry
And tell me nothing's wrong
Girl don't try
To make up phony reasons
I'd rather leave
Than never believe

If this is it
Please let me know
If this ain't love
You'd better let me go

If this is it
I want to know
If this ain't love, baby
Just say so

You've been thinking
And I've been drinking
We both know that it's
Just not right

Now you're pretending
That it's not ending
You'll say anything
To avoid a fight

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 214 days!
everyone loves lawyers right?

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

galenanorth posted:

From 'Bernie Sanders: From hippie migrant to would-be president'


It sounds like if he was on the dole, it was between and while working jobs. The wing of the party that gutted welfare and social programs would think of it like that, wouldn't they? I guess everyone in government has to be a lawyer to be respectable

What a moron, should have asked his parents for some stocks or loan.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

This reminds me of how I found it odd that Hillary Clinton repeatedly went back to "my grandfather was a coal miner" throughout her campaign. Getting more ridiculous, Donald Trump's phrase would be "my great-grandfather was a Bavarian grape farmer".

Interestingly enough, his grandfather made his fortune by saving up enough money as a barber to stake a Gold Rush claim. By opening restaurants and boarding houses in conjunction with this, one biographer described Frederick Trump as "mining the miners". By going back and looking through candidate family trees, I'm just doing the opposite of what old money legacy Harvard types do where they judge by how many generations wealth has been in the family, and that's kind of assholish, though.

galenanorth has issued a correction as of 09:57 on Aug 12, 2017

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The Neocons and Neolibs have joined forces so that bloody morons like Billl Kristol can rebrand themselves as Russiagaters.

http://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/
Alliance for Securing Democracy

quote:

Finding out what happened in the United States in 2016 and the impact it had is important. But that is not enough. The U.S. intelligence community assessed in January 2017 that “Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the U.S. presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against U.S. allies and their election processes.” Russia’s efforts are also ongoing across Europe — and we also need to prepare for other state actors to replicate Putin’s tactics. Moreover, Putin does not distinguish between political parties, but rather seeks to sow and exploit divisions. When our democratic institutions are weakened, every party and democratic nation is at risk.

Meeting this challenge to our democracy demands that Republicans and Democrats in the United States unite with our democratic allies around the world to better understand Russia’s multifaceted aggression in order to defend ourselves and our democratic partners, and deter such activity in the future.

The Alliance for Securing Democracy, a bipartisan, transatlantic initiative housed at The German Marshall Fund of the United States (GMF), will develop comprehensive strategies to defend against, deter, and raise the costs on Russian and other state actors’ efforts to undermine democracy and democratic institutions. The Alliance will work to publicly document and expose Vladimir Putin’s ongoing efforts to subvert democracy in the United States and Europe.

http://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/team/advisory-council

quote:

The Dream Team

Mike Chertof

Toomas Ilves

Toomas Hendrik Ilves was elected president of the Republic of Estonia in 2006 and in 2011.

David Kramer

Bill Kristol

Michael Morell

Michael Morell was acting director of the Central Intelligence Agency in 2011 and again from 2012 to 2013, and had previously served as deputy director and director for Intelligence at the Agency....

Mike McFaul

Mike Rogers

Mike Rogers is a former member of Congress, officer in the Army, and FBI special agent. In the U.S. House he chaired the Intelligence Committee, becoming a leader on cybersecurity and national security policy, and overseeing the 17 intelligence agencies’ $70 billion budget. Today Mike is a CNN national security commentator, and hosts and produces CNN’s "Declassified." He serves as Chief Security Adviser to AT&T, sits on the board of IronNet Cybersecurity and MITRE Corporation, and advises Next Century Corporation and Trident Capital. He is Distinguished Fellow and Trustee at Center for the Study of the Presidency and Congress, and a Senior Fellow at the Belfer Center at Harvard University.

[ed. note: this entire mini-bio for Mike Rogers neglects to mention that he was a Republican congressman, and according to govtrack.us, these are his recently sponsored bills:
H.R. 2470: Homeland Threat Assessment Act
H.R. 1813: Border Wall Funding Act of 2017
H.R. 1182: Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty Preservation Act of 2017
H.R. 193: American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2017
H.R. 5882 (114th): Freedom Riders National Historical Park Act
H.R. 1824 (114th): SMART Act
H.R. 1205 (114th): American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2015

The American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2015 quote: "Directs the President to terminate U.S. membership in the United Nations (U.N.), including any organ, specialized agency, commission, or other formally affiliated body. Requires closure of the U.S. Mission to the United Nations."]

Kori Schake

Julie Smith

ADM Jim Stavridis (Ret.)

Jake Sullivan

Nicole Wong

The central feature on their website right now is the "Hamillton 68 Dashboard," which is a metric panopticon that constantly monitors the activity of 600 twitter accounts that are "linked to Russian influence operations," including the official twitter accounts of news organizations like RT and Sputnik.

quote:

In the Federalist Papers No. 68, Alexander Hamilton wrote of protecting America’s electoral process from foreign meddling. The Hamilton 68 dashboard, a project with the Alliance for Securing Democracy at the German Marshall Fund of the United States, seeks to expose the effects of online influence networks and inform the public of themes and content being promoted to Americans by foreign powers.

The German Marshall Fund itself is a transatlantic policy institute that was founded with West German seed money in the 70s, and seeks to facilitate "international cooperation" to form a policy consensus between the United States and Europe.

Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 10:11 on Aug 12, 2017

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

I listened to the champagne sharks hamilton episode and just from the audio excerpts Hamilton is truly :stonk:

Willa Rogers posted:

"cadillac" health plans

I remember listening to the weeds podcast and them trying to explain why Cadillac plans are necessary and it was the most obtuse poo poo, I 100% could not understand, both what it was and why it would even be neccesary lmao. Just total word salad. Then erza did his wino commercial. Should have seen dem disaster a bit sooner lol.

Homeless Friend has issued a correction as of 10:22 on Aug 12, 2017

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!
https://twitter.com/XochitlHinojosa/status/895639051612639232

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
I could go for some donuts tbh

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
*literal Nazis marching with torches chanting Blood and Soil*

You know who our enemies are? That's right, black leftists.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Bill Kristol on the same "dream team" as former Ambassador and frequent Maddow guest Michael McFaul is a hell of an indictment of the US's one party conundrum

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
https://twitter.com/CvilleDSA/status/896207053735301120


As the right wing continues to radicalize liberals will be there every step of the way to let us know that they're the adults in the room and berniebros need to stop being divisive :smug:

The Ol Spicy Keychain has issued a correction as of 11:08 on Aug 12, 2017

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/joyce_tyler/status/896090464176058369

https://twitter.com/EnigmaNetxx/status/896077275312959489

https://twitter.com/EaleyGregory/status/896107443494637568


e:
https://twitter.com/surfbordt/status/896089958544359424

Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 11:29 on Aug 12, 2017

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

a helpful bear posted:

sanders took time to consider life and figure out the people instead of ruthlessly pursuing a career path immediately with no second thought?

what a piece of poo poo! hillary was ROBBED of her presidency!

Hillary accomplishments included being on the board of directors of Walmart, a company known for being a strong advocate for workers rights.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

when im dictator im gonna ban all musical theater

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Darkman Fanpage posted:

when im dictator im gonna ban all musical theater

I lolled at that roast of Hamilton calling it a musical for the Obama era.

It's not wonder that bad dems would admire a banker class authoritarian weirdo who believed that technocrats should run the US.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

galenanorth posted:

It sounds like if he was on the dole, it was between and while working jobs. The wing of the party that gutted welfare and social programs would think of it like that, wouldn't they? I guess everyone in government has to be a lawyer to be respectable
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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/CyberArcanist/status/896188251169574912

tower time
Jul 30, 2008





“From the beginning of this campaign, Secretary Clinton has been clear that she thinks all voices should be heard and all views considered in federal infrastructure projects,” Spokeswoman Xochitl Hinojosa said in a statement.

“Now, all of the parties involved — including the federal government, the pipeline company and contractors, the state of North Dakota, and the tribes — need to find a path forward that serves the broadest public interest,” Hinojosa said. “As that happens, it's important that on the ground in North Dakota, everyone respects demonstrators' rights to protest peacefully, and workers' rights to do their jobs safely."

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

tower time posted:

“Now, all of the parties involved — including the federal government, the pipeline company and contractors, the state of North Dakota, and the tribes — need to find a path forward that serves the broadest public interest,” Hinojosa said. “As that happens, it's important that on the ground in North Dakota, everyone respects demonstrators' rights to protest peacefully, and workers' rights to do their jobs safely."

:barf:

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 214 days!

tower time posted:

Xochitl Hinojosa

this would be a badass name for someone not white af

like i'm sure she has some aztec ancestry. or like i hope she does because tbh i kinda want to give her the benefit of at least a little bit of doubt.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

it is very important that people respect the protesters right to nondisruptively protest in some out-of-the-way corner. similarly, the protesters should respect the workers' right to completely ignore the protests and do the thing the protesters oppose. this is centrism personified

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Hodgepodge posted:

everyone loves lawyers right?

Agreed.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Main Paineframe posted:

it is very important that people respect the protesters right to nondisruptively protest in some out-of-the-way corner. similarly, the protesters should respect the workers' right to completely ignore the protests and do the thing the protesters oppose. this is centrism personified

It's almost like bad dems only like protests if they are ineffective and non-disruptive to special interests like the fossil fuel industry?

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe

Darkman Fanpage posted:

when im dictator im gonna ban all musical theater

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLDGoEh7jqA

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Rand alPaul posted:

Clinton's 1996 welfare reform bill used the Welfare Queen Myth to sell it. This was after a decade of it being debunked when Reagan brought it out.

welfare queen aint a myth, it was a serial killers nickname cuz she murdered a few husbands and collected enough widows pensions to drive a caddy

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

mrbradlymrmartin posted:

welfare queen aint a myth, it was a serial killers nickname cuz she murdered a few husbands and collected enough widows pensions to drive a caddy

hosed up but true.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Hodgepodge posted:

this would be a badass name for someone not white af

like i'm sure she has some aztec ancestry. or like i hope she does because tbh i kinda want to give her the benefit of at least a little bit of doubt.

She's 100% Mexican. Problem is she's an upper class brat whose spent too much time in Brooklyn and got brain disease from working with HRC and Tom Perez

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Frijolero posted:

She's 100% Mexican. Problem is she's an upper class brat whose spent too much time in Brooklyn and got brain disease from working with HRC and Tom Perez

lol yeah theres no racism in latin america

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


mrbradlymrmartin posted:

lol yeah theres no racism in latin america

I think frijolero might realize there's racism in Latin America

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Who said she was racist tho? I don't think she's racist. I don't think attacking Nina Turner makes you racist.

It does make you a privileged centrist schmuck tho.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

etalian posted:

Hillary accomplishments included being on the board of directors of Walmart, a company known for being a strong advocate for workers rights.

honestly that was enough to make me never vote for her, starting back in '08

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Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


got any sevens posted:

honestly that was enough to make me never vote for her, starting back in '08

that makes you unpragmatic. don't you realize hillary and the dems evolved past such troublesome sentiments?

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