Iglocska posted:

D_Smart posted:

You don't want me as a source because unlike you and your ilk, I have - and continue to do - extensive research on this enfolding train-wreck. I maintain meticulous records in several Evernote notepads so I don't have to pull poo poo out of my rear end.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748466&userid=164480&perpage=40&pagenumber=13#post452938475

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748466&pagenumber=476#post452985405

Which brings me to...

Octopode posted:

So which of those features aren't in 2.0 right now?

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Neil Armstrong

peter gabriel posted:

Who's this egghead?

peter gabriel posted:

One small step for man one giant lol you bought a loving jpeg you nerds

Iglocska posted:

But that's EXACTLY what's in 2.0... Seriously, let it go, they've met the feature checklist that they promised, that is not the issue. The issue is that they released it in a completely broken state to drive sales.

peter gabriel posted:

It's almost like they did the absolute bare minimum so people like you would defend them.
Hmmmm, WHAT A MYSTERY

Iglocska posted:

I know man, I am just utterly blown away by the crashing mess that is 2.0!

Iglocska posted:

I know man, I am just utterly blown away by the crashing mess that is 2.0!

peter gabriel posted:

They are my fav bit though in some ways, good fun

EminusSleepus posted:

Remember goons, replying to these sperg whales with more than 140 characters is just a waste of time. They cannot process anything more than that and they will treat it as trolling.... Just like this post.

doctor iono posted:

i'm playing burnout paradise and it's everything i never knew i wanted in a racing game

thank you. and thank YOU STAR CITIZEN

Iglocska posted:

We cannot process what??

Friendly Tumour posted:

What's the latest on the lawsuit?

AP posted:

quote:

The collected funds should be handled by a collection agent or the insurance company itself, to be paid out pursuant to an approved cash flow. Any unforeseen changes in the development process would be reviewed and approved by experienced specialists who monitor that process - something very familiar in the film production process as well. The completion guarantor would assure that the project will either be delivered to the early buyers as promised, or return the funds. Based on the fees charged in the film business, the insurance premium for such a completion guarantee and associated monitoring would probably be around 5 to 7 percent of the development budget.
...
For obvious reasons, developers for now may prefer to avoid the complications and hindrances of the above process. But as more and more projects may fail to deliver on their promises due to lack of planning or oversight, crowd funding for games will become increasingly difficult, with selective customers shying away from supporting projects unless they receive safeguards

The author is co-founder, vice-chairman and general counsel of Cloud Imperium Games, and an entertainment and computer game lawyer as well as a veteran production executive with 25 years of experience in the media industry.

Iglocska posted:

quote:

You don't want me as a source because unlike you and your ilk, I have - and continue to do - extensive research on this enfolding train-wreck. I maintain meticulous records in several Evernote notepads so I don't have to pull poo poo out of my rear end.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...3#post452938475

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...6#post452985405

But that's EXACTLY what's in 2.0... Seriously, let it go, they've met the feature checklist that they promised, that is not the issue. The issue is that they released it in a completely broken state to drive sales.

EightAce posted:

They loving didn't ! I know it was 11.5 million dollars

D_Smart posted:

But that's EXACTLY what's in 2.0... Seriously, let it go, they've met the feature checklist that they promised, that is not the issue. The issue is that they released it in a completely broken state to drive sales.

AP posted:

quote:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-06-23-how-indie-film-financing-could-shape-the-future-of-games

quote:
The collected funds should be handled by a collection agent or the insurance company itself, to be paid out pursuant to an approved cash flow. Any unforeseen changes in the development process would be reviewed and approved by experienced specialists who monitor that process - something very familiar in the film production process as well. The completion guarantor would assure that the project will either be delivered to the early buyers as promised, or return the funds. Based on the fees charged in the film business, the insurance premium for such a completion guarantee and associated monitoring would probably be around 5 to 7 percent of the development budget.
...
For obvious reasons, developers for now may prefer to avoid the complications and hindrances of the above process. But as more and more projects may fail to deliver on their promises due to lack of planning or oversight, crowd funding for games will become increasingly difficult, with selective customers shying away from supporting projects unless they receive safeguards

The author is co-founder, vice-chairman and general counsel of Cloud Imperium Games, and an entertainment and computer game lawyer as well as a veteran production executive with 25 years of experience in the media industry.

Somebody already gave an awful lot of thought to the current loopholes for exploiting people through crowd funding and gave some predictions that also conclude with legislation being inevitable.

How indie film financing could shape the future of games

peter gabriel posted:

The game is poo poo

D_Smart posted:

No, you fool. The entire list appears in the two links I posted. The image was just a slide show of the highlights. But go ahead and ignore it all you want.