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vyst
Aug 25, 2009



The only time it matters is when a company tries to enforce the NDA which results in legal action. A simple background check would reveal that poo poo

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Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Fix Lag posted:

speaking of being the bad guy can someone with a lot more time and care than me map out PL's involvement with Lenny, IWI, and the Russian botfarms that crank out supers

that is effort but if grath's posting on eveo is any indication it's a lot :laugh:

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

vyst posted:

The only time it matters is when a company tries to enforce the NDA which results in legal action. A simple background check would reveal that poo poo

We're talking about the same legal team here that took 10 years stumbling around alliance logos, right?

stale meme dot png
May 5, 2015
College Slice
I think? I read that app. I dunno I don't spend a lot of time reading apps on pl forums. Maybe I should start. Perhaps I should start posting there as well. I'm sure I'm welcome. I do remember that guy dropping corp before his poo poo died though that was pretty hilarious.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Xolve posted:

We're talking about the same legal team here that took 10 years stumbling around alliance logos, right?

No you're not wrong I'm just saying the entire point of an NDA is to be able to preserve proprietary information at the threat of legal action

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

the csm nda has no teeth, as evidenced by the sheer number of people who have been caught leaking and had no meaningful punishment applied to them

hell they allowed gorski car to run for another term after all

i imagine it's just "being the better man" sort of stuff from facultas, honestly

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
i did like sports betting with space cash, wont lie

Lugnut Seatcushion
May 4, 2013
Lipstick Apathy

Foehammer007 posted:

i did like sports betting with space cash, wont lie

Yeah I'll miss EVE bet

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

so will PL

now they will have to suck crok to make ends meet :ohdearsass:

meatmccartney
Aug 4, 2016

tickets to the gunt show posted:

That's more or less the wellspring of our problems. Posting as an art is dead and gay. Thus it follows that Something Awful, and Goonswarmfleet Federales are also dead and gay.

I find this is a lovely forum full of lovely people. It perfectly compliments my favorite lovely Internet spaceship game that I barely play.

Except Video Games. He seems nice.

Syndic Thrass
Nov 10, 2011
Tbh eve bet guys were cool as hell. They were chill beer drinkers at the ATL meets and me and foehammer were high as gently caress at one and I got them to give me 2 500m isk codes like 5 different times. Finally one figured it out but wasn't even mad and was like "i mean gj dude lol its shocking more people don't try that" to which I asked "and it worth another for having the balls to do it" and he slipped me another. I am very happy with the fact that them and EOH were 2 of the casinos not implicated in this because those are the only ones I used and enjoyed.

Also when I learned that IWI was nothing but micro lotteries I was blown away because holy poo poo that's as much of a stupid tax as goddamn scratch offs are.

Edit: CCP guy also realized I'd gotten like 4 pirate newbie ship codes and also didn't care but didn't give me another one so gently caress that guy.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

plenty of casual racism

:eyepop:

Syndic Thrass posted:

Tbh eve bet guys were cool as hell. They were chill beer drinkers at the ATL meets and me and foehammer were high as gently caress at one and I got them to give me 2 500m isk codes like 5 different times. Finally one figured it out but wasn't even mad and was like "i mean gj dude lol its shocking more people don't try that" to which I asked "and it worth another for having the balls to do it" and he slipped me another. I am very happy with the fact that them and EOH were 2 of the casinos not implicated in this because those are the only ones I used and enjoyed.

Also when I learned that IWI was nothing but micro lotteries I was blown away because holy poo poo that's as much of a stupid tax as goddamn scratch offs are.

Edit: CCP guy also realized I'd gotten like 4 pirate newbie ship codes and also didn't care but didn't give me another one so gently caress that guy.

EVE-Bet always operated above board from what I saw and dealt with. Unlike the other sites who would be super flakey about stuff or try to obfuscate details which were some pretty big warnings like when they tried to hire me to make some video I ended up turning down. Like I said on the discord, it's pretty lame EVE-Bet & EOH got affected when they never did anything wrong like IWI etc. all did, which in turn affects stuff like the EVE_NT tournaments (mostly via covering payouts) but overall its for the better and people like EVE_NT et al will find a different way to fund their activities and such so its just an "adapt or die" situation.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Oct 14, 2016

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


^^^^
Who says Eve-Bet and EOH didn't do anything wrong?

Look. Violating the NDA could come back to bite him in the rear end in the future.

Not violating the NDA takes exactly zero effort. How is this complicated?

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
because space reasons

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CainFortea posted:

Who says Eve-Bet and EOH didn't do anything wrong?

Who is to say you didn't rape and kill a girl in 1990?

Syndic Thrass
Nov 10, 2011

Unfunny Poster posted:

:eyepop:


EVE-Bet always operated above board from what I saw and dealt with. Unlike the other sites who would be super flakey about stuff or try to obfuscate details which were some pretty big warnings like when they tried to hire me to make some video I ended up turning down. Like I said on the discord, it's pretty lame EVE-Bet & EOH got affected when they never did anything wrong like IWI etc. all did, which in turn affects stuff like the EVE_NT tournaments (mostly via covering payouts) but overall its for the better and people like EVE_NT et al will find a different way to fund their activities and such so its just an "adapt or die" situation.

Dude just run that poo poo with a donation drive. I think my opinion of you has been well fleshed out itt yet I'd still throw some bux at it because spaceships blowing up is a good and cool. What would you estimate the cost of the whole shebang is?

Syndic Thrass
Nov 10, 2011

CainFortea posted:

^^^^
Who says Eve-Bet and EOH didn't do anything wrong?


Shut up dumbo.

For starters CCP did. If you need a more reputable source, I did too nerd.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Syndic Thrass posted:

Dude just run that poo poo with a donation drive. I think my opinion of you has been well fleshed out itt yet I'd still throw some bux at it because spaceships blowing up is a good and cool. What would you estimate the cost of the whole shebang is?

Yeah that's the plan basically, Nashh is working on setting up a system for donations for in-game money. We talked about setting up a Patreon but shot it down because people would likely flip the gently caress out incessantly about RMT etc. so we'd rather not go near that sort of stuff. The only problem I see for the direct donation system is that you may have issues where people just don't want to compete if the prize pool is too low (you see it in minor league tournaments in say Dota). So for example say the prize pool for Championship only reaches 10billion, and Tuskers & PL pull out because "not enough money to make it worthwhile" then you're sort of boned because the tournament is less interesting than it was with them involved as teams. Though to be fair, for Championship tournaments CCP have been pretty cool and given limited edition ship skins for us to use as part of our payout system. It's for the other events such as Theomachy, EVE NT Cruiser League (see below), etc. that we don't have those skins for that are going to be tricky to fund or incentivize teams to participate in.

I don't know how much it is for EVE_NT Championship (our main tournament series) but I know for ECL (an 8 team 2v2 tournament I want to run in January-ish as a way to fill the gap between our Fall & Spring Championship seasons) I'm eyeballing 10 billion ISK for the total prizepool. I already spoke to some people so we should be fine for money. If not I'll donate the 10 billion ISK myself at the last minute to ensure there's a prizepool.

Edit - I don't know honestly how much the staff for EVE_NT get paid in ISK since I turned it down when I started.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Oct 14, 2016

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




uh..why doesnt PL/NC come off with some of their trillions to fund this poo poo

dont they care for kids???

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Unfunny Poster posted:

Who is to say you didn't rape and kill a girl in 1990?

Well, my name isn't Bob Saget.

So CCP said they didn't do anything wrong and then went and took their assets?

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CainFortea posted:

Well, my name isn't Bob Saget.

Who's to say you aren't Bob Saget and that you in fact did rape and kill a girl in 1990?

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
i want to set up a gambling service that's really good sometime, but instead of transferring assets and paying out, I just scam people so i get all of the money and don't break the eula.

1001 Arabian dicks fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Oct 14, 2016

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Orange Red Bull posted:

uh..why doesnt PL/NC come off with some of their trillions to fund this poo poo

dont they care for kids???

I think c4whatever cares about kids, everyone else probably ranges from indifferent to who cares.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Unfunny Poster posted:

Who's to say you aren't Bob Saget and that you in fact did rape and kill a girl in 1990?

My fault for forgetting to not talk to you like a real person.

Anyway, I thought you were saying that EVE-Bet and EOH got their poo poo taken in the RMT stuff. But they didn't.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Xolve posted:

I think c4whatever cares about kids, everyone else probably ranges from indifferent to who cares.

idk man i seen your fearless leader grath telkin going hardbody karate on various forums about how shutting these sites down is a travesty and is robbing the community of valuable services/resources

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CainFortea posted:

My fault for forgetting to not talk to you like a real person.

I mean you started off by implying that EVE-Bet were breaking the NDA (which implies RMT) because you just speculated they were.

How am I supposed to take that level of idiocy serious?

Edit - Especially after Syndic called you an idiot for doing so after I was already mocking you.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Oct 14, 2016

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Unfunny Poster posted:

it's pretty lame EVE-Bet & EOH got affected when they never did anything wrong like IWI etc.

I thought you were saying that EVE-Bet and EOH got nailed for RMT. Since I forgot that nothing you say can be taken seriously I thought this was actual real information.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
in game lotteries are bad for the health of the game, all legal issues or rmt issues aside.

working mom
Jul 8, 2015

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

in game lotteries are bad for the health of the game, all legal issues or rmt issues aside.

B-but they spend 0.1% of their profit on streamers who give entertainment and such and and community events that aren't just glorified adverts

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CainFortea posted:

I thought you were saying that EVE-Bet and EOH got nailed for RMT. Since I forgot that nothing you say can be taken seriously I thought this was actual real information.

It's more an issue of you needing to work on your reading comprehension. Especially since that statement is completely true.

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

working mom posted:

B-but they spend 0.1% of their profit on streamers who give entertainment and such and and community events that aren't just glorified adverts

Streamers won't have as much support now because people would rather burn a billion at the space casino in their web browser than toss 100 mil to a streamer they enjoy :haw:

The chat log in which chocolateRahne worried about poor, poor streamers having to rat :ohdear: was amusing.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Guys,

Please don't yell at Syndic if he happens to agree someone is being dumb on SA.

Deep down he's a good person and doesn't deserve that sort of harassment.

Thanks.

working mom
Jul 8, 2015

Discussion Quorum posted:

Streamers won't have as much support now because people would rather burn a billion at the space casino in their web browser than toss 100 mil to a streamer they enjoy :haw:

The chat log in which chocolateRahne worried about poor, poor streamers having to rat :ohdear: was amusing.

Really is a shame that there is no :ccp: way of getting plex if you get people to sub to the game via videos/streaming content for people to enjoy already

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

working mom posted:

Really is a shame that there is no :ccp: way of getting plex if you get people to sub to the game via videos/streaming content for people to enjoy already

pretty sure they're removing that with the alpha update.

if not than :laffo:

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

pretty sure they're removing that with the alpha update.

if not than :laffo:

They are and the replacement they said they'd be implementing has had zero info released about it.

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

Xolve posted:

Nobody is safe from that assumption really, but it'd be better if it was one of the people in the chosen eight, since they'll get removed, then DJ gets removed, then everyone DJ vouched would get removed.


I very much doubt any employer would care or even find out.


They didn't even go after him dude, they said DJ wasn't a valid vouch and to maybe convo the guy responsible for recruiting before blindly submitting an app.

PL has always been the bad guy, so gently caress right off with that blackhat nonsense; GSF tried to be the badguy and got curb stomped- there's a large difference between being the bad guy and running around for years telling yourself you're the bad guy. If your skin is thin enough to be bothered by that boring app thread, I strongly advise staying away from books, magazines and newspapers just to remove the chance you'll accidentally cut yourself in half.


Except when it doesn't. :smug:

The problem isn't the PL recruitment forum. It has always been a shark tank for frat boys to haze the new guys. The problem is that DJ took his chillgood gooncorp and then filtered it through the PL recruitment process to challenge people who really did not belong in PL to apply in an attempt to remain with their friends.

This stands out as one of the better threads (unrelated to DJ)

Where a guy comes in true elite pvp. Collects all the high fives and vouches from the bros and then they :commissar: him for being smug.

Then he stands there with his head in a bag from a surprisingly savage execution and he's being all "Thank you sir may I have another"

Zephyrine fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Oct 14, 2016

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Zephyrine posted:

The problem isn't the PL recruitment forum. It has always been a shark tank for frat boys to haze the new guys. The problem is that DJ took his chillgood gooncorp and then filtered it through the PL recruitment process to challenge people who really did not belong in PL to apply in an attempt to remain with their friends.

This stands out as one of the better threads (unrelated to DJ)

Where a guy comes in true elite pvp. Collects all the high fives and vouches from the bros and then they :commissar: him for being smug.

Then he stands there with his head in a bag from a surprisingly savage execution and he's being all "Thank you sir may I have another"


I mean, without a director vouch- it's pretty much open season and all about how you handle the app process.

Some people make it, like Casper- some people don't.

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

Xolve posted:

I mean, without a director vouch- it's pretty much open season and all about how you handle the app process.

Some people make it, like Casper- some people don't.

And then you apply to NESW and make it :v:

nex
Jul 23, 2001

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Grimey Drawer
The whining from PL players(grath, doom, etc) about being removed from the teat of free casino ISK is fantastic

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VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003
I know the whole "I will get my lawyers involved" stance happens a lot when players feel aggrieved by games, however when they say broke USA law, does that matter when CCP is not an American company? I've always wondered this sort of thing.

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