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I like the ending that totally happened where he leaves without shaking hands with his nemesis Yeah, really
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as someone looking for a new design gig jfc at the part at the beginning where he talks about having to "gain visibility" on twitter in order to get interviewed  i'm ded
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Polo-Rican posted:as someone looking for a new design gig jfc at the part at the beginning where he talks about having to "gain visibility" on twitter in order to get interviewed you don't need that poo poo, get a job at a non-tech company and get a few years under your belt I find it hilarious that things like dribbble exist when most real designers would be fired instantly for using it
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these are my favourite parts that haven't been mentioned:quote:Google+ was such a massive waste of resources. For example, every person at Google gets a corporate card. quote:About a week later I got on a plane to Google NY to collaborate on this special project. Ironically, the person sitting next to me also worked at Google. They didnt care. Super antisocial.
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Oct 15, 2018 21:09
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hey guys heads up if you hire me and i get disenchanted, i will buy myself video games on the corporate card
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Endless Mike posted:i like the part where he talks about spending his vacation doing free labor like it was a good thing Email is work.
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ShadowHawk posted:Yeah this would get you in real trouble on my team for setting such a bad example. One person leaving for vacation implied they'd still be checking email and the manager reply-all'd you MUST NOT WORK while on vacation. but if i don't make audible noises of pain when the boss is whipping me, how will they know I care about my job?
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Oct 16, 2018 10:39
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ShadowHawk posted:Yeah this would get you in real trouble on my team for setting such a bad example. One person leaving for vacation implied they'd still be checking email and the manager reply-all'd you MUST NOT WORK while on vacation. i have several times bullied junior team members into taking sick leave when they have a cold. you get 3 consecutive sick days before needing to get a doctor's note. loving use them, stay at home, don't infect your coworkers.
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Oct 16, 2018 11:43
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Sagebrush posted:the one thing, organizationally, that academia has going for it is that among the faculty it's functionally a flat structure you mean the academia where tenured faculty frequently sabotage the adjuncts' attempts to unionize to preserve their hierarchy?
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Oct 16, 2018 12:12
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:About a week later I got on a plane to Google NY to collaborate on this special project. Ironically, the person sitting next to me also worked at Google. They didnt care. Super antisocial. last time I sat next to a coworker on a flight an FA had to tell us to quiet down because we were bothering other passengers lol, it ruled
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Oct 16, 2018 12:14
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lol wow he was only there 8 months? kinda impressive to unintentionally make multiple people dislike him enough to want him fired in that amount of time.
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Oct 16, 2018 12:18
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I love that the legendary Google Interview Process couldn't pick up on the guy being... well whatever you call the kind of person that writes that rant.
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Oct 16, 2018 12:25
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Cocoa Crispies posted:you mean the academia where tenured faculty frequently sabotage the adjuncts' attempts to unionize to preserve their hierarchy? sage is still drunk on the initial years of teaching and not yet burnt so give em' room 
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Shifty Pony posted:I love that the legendary Google Interview Process couldn't pick up on the guy being... well whatever you call the kind of person that writes that rant. their idea of the system worked perfectly
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https://twitter.com/adrianhon/status/1051899663413104640
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Cocoa Crispies posted:you mean the academia where tenured faculty frequently sabotage the adjuncts' attempts to unionize to preserve their hierarchy? academia also gets the anonymous sabotage, where you're doing peer review for a paper that conflicts with / supersedes whatever you're working on so you vote against including it in the conference/journal. i had a paper torpedoed a couple years ago, it described a tool we'd built and based on the comments in the most negative review we were able to figure out who that reviewer was... he was a guy whose entire career at this point was basically maintaining a system that could be made obsolete by our tool. (he shouldn't have really worried, once an academic has selected a tool he will cling to it until either he dies or it is literally impossible to continue using said tool)
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Cocoa Crispies posted:you mean the academia where tenured faculty frequently sabotage the adjuncts' attempts to unionize to preserve their hierarchy? Our adjuncts are all unionized already though? I don't know exactly where you're getting that hierarchy idea from either. Every professor I work with wishes that we could hire all the best lecturers into the tenure track and keep them around full-time. It's the executive bureaucracy that maintains this massive underclass of adjuncts, because that's the cheapest way of putting a warm body at the front of the class. Blame the national attack on education funding for that Over the last 15 years, the UC system has added something like 8,000 adjunct faculty jobs, lost 150 tenure-track jobs, and added 2500 executive or adminstrative positions.
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i guess the provost and president are technically tenured faculty but thats truly a technicality
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Sagebrush posted:Our adjuncts are all unionized already though? so was it the national attack on education funding that made UC add 2500 executive/admin positions?
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Pham Nuwen posted:he was a guy whose entire career at this point was basically maintaining a system that could be made obsolete by our tool. (he shouldn't have really worried, once an academic has selected a tool he will cling to it until either he dies or it is literally impossible to continue using said tool) Yeah this is absolutely a real thing and probably my single biggest frustration at work. A tenured professor can choose to teach an outdated topic that actively sabotages the students' education and job prospects, refusing to update their own skillset to reflect contemporary practice, and there's essentially no way that anyone can change the situation. There are processes for disciplining or even firing tenured professors, but they're all so massively involved and would draw so much interest from other institutions that no one even wants to touch them. Just try to work around that guy, okay, and try to ignore that we're literally wasting the students' time and money
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Oct 16, 2018 16:09
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Sagebrush posted:A tenured professor can choose to teach an outdated topic that actively sabotages the students' education and job prospects, refusing to update their own skillset to reflect contemporary practice, and there's essentially no way that anyone can change the situation. ayup
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the problem is even if the prof wanted to teach something current they don't have any idea what it is so they fall back on what they know. if you're going to continue offering tenure part of the conditions should be that they switch off between teaching and working in their field for a few years at a time.
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Oct 16, 2018 16:19
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Pham Nuwen posted:so was it the national attack on education funding that made UC add 2500 executive/admin positions? the concept of a university as a corporation, with executive positions not filled by academics, is relatively new. Until the last few decades most universities didn't even have a president -- the provost, as head of all university academics, also was in charge of running the place. When you reduce funding to the point of being unable to maintain your facilities or hire enough faculty to even replace retirements and departures, people start thinking things like "let's get a businessman in here, they know how to work within a tight budget." And as soon as that corporate structure is implanted, it grows to justify its own existence. I also I believe it's related to the number of middle aged and elderly baby boomers over the last decade or two who have demanded managerial positions like participation trophies. Gotta create those spots for em
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they are working in their field the problem is that the field of computer science is math so
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Shaggar posted:the problem is even if the prof wanted to teach something current they don't have any idea what it is so they fall back on what they know. if you're going to continue offering tenure part of the conditions should be that they switch off between teaching and working in their field for a few years at a time. That isn't true at all. Professors can choose to plug their ears and close their eyes and claim the alchemy they're teaching is contemporary chemistry practice, but the whole point of attending conferences and conducting professional development (which universities are happy to fund) is to understand what's new in your field. In cases where it's a technical skill like a specific computer program or something, it's trivial to glance through some job postings and see what's in demand in industry. Or sometimes, if what you're teaching is so utterly out of date that it's embarrassing for your school, the other faculty will come together and outright tell you to change, and vote to discontinue the topic you're teaching. Only a tremendous rear end in a top hat would ignore all of these signs and stubbornly stay in their rut, right? Hint hint, Dr. X. I don't disagree about the value of cycling back and forth between industry and academia -- that's what a sabbatical is supposed to be, in an a little less formal sense -- but the problem with deadwood professors is that they're usually being willfully blind. The ones who care about what they're doing will find a way to stay current.
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the problem is that in CS the "keeping up with industry" that the professors are doing is machine learning algorithms or whatever what the undergrads want to get a job is the latest javascript frameworks
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that dude could have just shut the gently caress up and pocketed tons of money and worked on whatever he wanted to in his ample free time but instead engaged in a massive public self own
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Yeah, and that's kind of a fundamental problem in most fields. Universities have the dual mission of educating the populace and conducting advanced research, and those things are often at odds. You need both, but it's rare to find someone who is interested in (or even capable of) doing both effectively. Universities of course put pressure on their professors to conduct research, allowing teaching to slide as long as they're bringing in grant money, because again it comes down to funding. The undergraduate teaching load falls on lecturers and grad students -- and the students suffer for that, because only the full-time faculty have the time and the broader picture to conduct curriculum development and really think hard about student outcomes.
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incels interlinked posted:that dude could have just shut the gently caress up and pocketed tons of money and worked on whatever he wanted to in his ample free time but instead engaged in a massive public self own he had to prove that hes right. thats more important than money or career development or saying bye to grandma.
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Sagebrush posted:Yeah, and that's kind of a fundamental problem in most fields. Universities have the dual mission of educating the populace and conducting advanced research, and those things are often at odds. You need both, but it's rare to find someone who is interested in (or even capable of) doing both effectively. Universities of course put pressure on their professors to conduct research, allowing teaching to slide as long as they're bringing in grant money, because again it comes down to funding. The undergraduate teaching load falls on lecturers and grad students -- and the students suffer for that, because only the full-time faculty have the time and the broader picture to conduct curriculum development and really think hard about student outcomes. tbh 100 years ago when I was in school the grad students were generally much better at actually teaching materials cause they were still mostly human
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Sagebrush posted:Our adjuncts are all unionized already though? community colleges in ontario had a dream where they said "what if we became uber" and hired on a bunch of peripheral staff to teach classes as gigs instead of careers, then wages plummeted and the lot of them went on strike demanding the colleges and/or the government fix it so naturally the government passed back to work legislation and told the teachers to frig off
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incels interlinked posted:that dude could have just shut the gently caress up and pocketed tons of money and worked on whatever he wanted to in his ample free time but instead engaged in a massive public self own this seems to be a computer toucher problem. look at ol musky
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Sure, a lot of research-focused professors are just awful in the classroom. But classroom presence is only part of teaching effectively. Curricular development -- building a program's classes and learning outcomes so that the students are taken through their study in a logical and effective way, and ensuring that one class sequences properly into the next -- is just as important. Grad students and lecturers don't have the time or purview to do that
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Sagebrush posted:ensuring that one class sequences properly into the next first c++ class final huge project: write your own custom class with 4 objects in it! woof! second c++ class first day: write and traverse this 20 node red black tree you idiot
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hobbesmaster posted:the problem is that in CS the "keeping up with industry" that the professors are doing is machine learning algorithms or whatever the computer science classes that were actually about computer science were interesting though, and when i can step back from intensive computer touching for a loving second and like just try to think about e.g. if this function is going to scale O(n) or O(n^3) it's both enjoyable and useful. teaching the latest javascript framework is useless because by the time you graduate it's now the N-2 javascript framework and all the kids who went to CODING BOOTCAMP last week will make fun of you. take software engineering if you want to learn agile waterfall scrum development for javascript mvp tech demos, imo i took a class in "cybernetics" (machine learning + EEG wires stuck to your skin, basically) and it kind of sucked because it was all hacky bullshit implemented in matlab. that was 2010 though so maybe poo poo's better now. operating systems was the best course i took in the cs dept.
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Pham Nuwen posted:i took a class in "cybernetics" (machine learning + EEG wires stuck to your skin, basically) and it kind of sucked because it was all hacky bullshit implemented in matlab. that was 2010 though so maybe poo poo's better now. yeah its probably in numpy now
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had a meeting a couple weeks ago and a person was like 'wow what if the students just ran their own isolated docker instance to etc/etc/etc' and i was like 'lol they only started teaching version control two years ago'
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graph posted:had a meeting a couple weeks ago and a person was like 'wow what if the students just ran their own isolated docker instance to etc/etc/etc' and i was like 'lol they only started teaching version control two years ago' they started teaching version control?
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theres computer science and theres software development. different disciplines. college should teach you data structures and algorithms and complexity. thats computer science. they should then teach you engineering principles to deal with these. unfortunately to bootstrap these they need to teach you some stupid language. hopefully its something somewhat practical but with minimal complexity to get in your way while you learn the important stuff.
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