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Gripweed posted:yeah you shouldn't do that Ok, but i'm still gonna do it. Might even turn it down to 66 out of spite.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Ok, but i'm still gonna do it. Might even turn it down to 66 out of spite. Yeah I know, that's the kind of person you are
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Jul 20, 2019 22:49
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Mine is set for 65 as we speak. It's hot in Chicago.
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Jul 20, 2019 22:52
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Sorry, not going to sacrifice my comfort to make an entirely negligible contribution toward stopping climate change or whatever. You're targeting the wrong people - me driving an SUV is absolutely nothing compared to the pollution caused by manufacturing plants and industry in general. If you want to stop climate change, you have to eliminate those things, not someone who keeps their AC a little too low, and the only way to lessen the impact of those things is by having significantly less people on the planet.
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Jul 20, 2019 22:54
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Tubgoat posted:Yeah, gently caress the entire northern continental U.S.! I’d rather bundle up and make sure I live somewhere with a fireplace than try living in the southwest or gulf in Gripweed’s eco hell
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Jul 20, 2019 22:57
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Going full nuclear would be the first best step.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Sorry, not going to sacrifice my comfort to make an entirely negligible contribution toward stopping climate change or whatever. You're targeting the wrong people - me driving an SUV is absolutely nothing compared to the pollution caused by manufacturing plants and industry in general. If you want to stop climate change, you have to eliminate those things, not someone who keeps their AC a little too low, and the only way to lessen the impact of those things is by having significantly less people on the planet. Yeah your small action wouldn't do anything by itself, so you will do nothing. I know this.
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Jul 20, 2019 22:59
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Gripweed posted:Yeah your small action wouldn't do anything by itself, so you will do nothing. I know this. Ok so get out of my rear end about it. It's like going into a hoarders house and cleaning a square foot of it. Yes, it's a positive action, and yes if many people did it it would help in the short term, but in the long term they (we) will gently caress it up again, rendering it pointless. It's like telling the black death to cure itself. It's not what we as a species do.
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Jul 20, 2019 23:01
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Ok so get out of my rear end about it. I'm not up your rear end about it. I think you're just perceiving it that way because on some level you feel bad about not taking individual action
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Jul 20, 2019 23:03
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I’d rather bundle up and make sure I live somewhere with a fireplace than try living in the southwest or gulf in Gripweed’s eco hell
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Jul 20, 2019 23:10
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Gripweed posted:I'm not up your rear end about it. I think you're just perceiving it that way because on some level you feel bad about not taking individual action What I feel bad about is that people like you think you are making a difference but you aren't. We are too far down the path to turn back now without a near-extinction level event, but even that's just a temporary solution, give us a few thousand years to rebuild and we'll be back on the brink of destroying the earth again.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:What I feel bad about is that people like you think you are making a difference but you aren't. We are too far down the path to turn back now without a near-extinction level event, but even that's just a temporary solution, give us a few thousand years to rebuild and we'll be back on the brink of destroying the earth again. OK. But then you shouldn't care my opinion of your behavior. You should be rolling coal with complete self confidence
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Jul 20, 2019 23:31
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I can't wait for global warming to kill every single fish in the ocean in 10 years or the entire ocean flooding every coastal city because then at least there will be less annoying people bitching about it.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I can't wait for global warming to kill every single fish in the ocean in 10 years or the entire ocean flooding every coastal city because then at least there will be less annoying people bitching about it. A big incoming catastrophe you can wait for is most parts of Africa and India becoming uninhabitable due to the heat.
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doverhog posted:A big incoming catastrophe you can wait for is most parts of Africa and India becoming uninhabitable due to the heat. haven't you heard, excessive heat is good for your health and the environment
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doverhog posted:A big incoming catastrophe you can wait for is most parts of Africa and India becoming uninhabitable due to the heat. I mean, that's kind of a big catastrophe.....but it's still not the seas revolting against humanity to wash away the sins of man. Guess it'll do for now.....*kicks pebble
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Agreed, to wash away the sins of man properly we need to focus on the anglo nations and Western Europe.
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If it seems not enough, remember India has nuclear weapons.
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doverhog posted:If it seems not enough, remember India has nuclear weapons. And a nuclear neighbour with which they have a massive feud
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:And a nuclear neighbour with which they have a massive feud Over... *drumroll* water. Can't remember if China has a dog in that fight but they generally think they do.
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Gripweed posted:You're supposed to watch it all yeah I eat rear end posted:What are you, my grandparents with that 80 degrees? There is nothing worse than going to their place in the florida summer where they keep it at 80. 77-78, ok, fine if you're short on money that month, but 80 is when it approaches unbearable.
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Reason number 51 that I don't want to go to tiggum's house. It's very different being outside in 80+ degree weather and having it be 80+ in your house. Outside, it's fine, it's warm but whatever, you'll be inside soon probably. But when you can't escape it, it's miserable. Nobody likes sleeping when it's that hot. People objectively (translation: I think i read this somewhere) sleep better when it's cool/cold. e: also don't fahrenheit-shame me. The only temperature scale that makes sense is Kelvin, so get off your celsius high horse yeah I eat ass has a new favorite as of 01:42 on Jul 21, 2019 |
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Jul 21, 2019 01:39
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Tiggum posted:I've seen it before. I just wanted to watch the specific bit you were referring to about modernised adaptations. 9 minutes, 2 seconds in
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Jul 21, 2019 01:41
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The main thing about making people handle high temperatures is make them be less fat and have better cardio. Also people who work in an air conditioned office have no idea at all what temperatures or weather means to a lot of people, myself included.
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Jul 21, 2019 01:51
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Just move somewhere colder. God drat i love it when it's cold, and by cold I mean like 55 Fahrenheit.
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Jul 21, 2019 02:11
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I live in Finland and they're predicting 30 C for next week. Can't really move anywhere colder...
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Jul 21, 2019 02:17
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If there was somewhere that was like the lofoten islands in norway during the summer where you've got 24/7 sunlight and the temperature rarely breaks 60-70 degrees day or night, that would be paradise. Too bad it becomes a depressing dark hellscape of snow and ice the rest of the year.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Reason number 51 that I don't want to go to tiggum's house. yeah I eat rear end posted:e: also don't fahrenheit-shame me. The only temperature scale that makes sense is Kelvin, so get off your celsius high horse
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Tiggum posted:There's no objective reason I know of to prefer fahrenheit or celsius in isolation, but the fact that celsius is the standard in practically every country means that the few still hanging on to fahrenheit are just making things difficult for everyone - including themselves. Once there's a standard you should use it unless there's a good reason not to. As a scientist obviously I think celsius makes more sense if you are being wrong and not using kelvin since it makes math easier, but for every day purposes fahrenheit has more range to it. Like the difference between tolerable to you and possibly needing AC was only 4 degrees, but with fahrenheit it's more like 20+ which makes it seem less arbitrary. Like when you hear 90 you know "that's hot", but if someone says it's going up from 25 to 30 tomorrow i'm like "hold on let me check if that's hot or not". In summary: it depends what you were raised using. When it comes to weather people will use what they're used to.
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0 being freezing temperature, and 100 (212 F) being a good sauna temperature, makes perfect sense.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:for every day purposes fahrenheit has more range to it. Like the difference between tolerable to you and possibly needing AC was only 4 degrees, but with fahrenheit it's more like 20+ which makes it seem less arbitrary. Like when you hear 90 you know "that's hot", but if someone says it's going up from 25 to 30 tomorrow i'm like "hold on let me check if that's hot or not".
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Air conditioning owns, even forgetting the fact that it makes it cooler, it conditions the air greatly helping with the humidity. My house has an AC unit hooked up through the furnace system so I have it set to a modest 75 degrees Fahrenheit all the time in the summer and then my bedroom I have a small window air conditioning unit if I feel I needed in addition to a standing fan. I almost always do need it because it's an old brick house with plaster walls so my upstairs bedroom is always 10 + degrees warmer than the ground floor which is where the thermostat is.
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Tiggum posted:I don't even have air conditioning. AC seems to be way more common in America (than possibly anywhere else?). My parents' house has an air conditioner in the lounge room, but nowhere else I've lived has had one - except for one place where my bedroom was a badly-constructed extension that got up to about 50° and I had to get a free-standing unit to survive it. The average high in Melbourne is 26 (80) in summer. Where I’m from it’s 33 (90). In Tucson it’s 38 (100). I wonder why you use less AC.
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doverhog posted:The main thing about making people handle high temperatures is make them be less fat and have better cardio. Also people who work in an air conditioned office have no idea at all what temperatures or weather means to a lot of people, myself included. I run 10k every other day and I still hate heat. Heat is loathesome and I've never seen anyone refute the argument that you can't escape from heat while if it's cold, you can bundle up. Tiggum posted:I don't even have air conditioning. AC seems to be way more common in America (than possibly anywhere else?). My parents' house has an air conditioner in the lounge room, but nowhere else I've lived has had one - except for one place where my bedroom was a badly-constructed extension that got up to about 50° and I had to get a free-standing unit to survive it. Yeah in Holland nobody has AC in their house. My house has a bigass tree next it it though which casts a shadow over it during most of the day, I can recommend it. Fahrenheit is American jingoism.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:The average high in Melbourne is 26 (80) in summer. Where I’m from it’s 33 (90). In Tucson it’s 38 (100). I wonder why you use less AC.
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Please stop using weird moon numbers when describing heat. Grow up and join civilization and use Celsius
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Tiggum posted:
I think his point is that, on average, the hot places in america are significantly hotter than where you live, hence the higher air conditioning ownership. There's a big difference between "it gets a lot hotter than 26 degrees sometimes" and "it's almost always a lot hotter than 26 degrees during the summer". A couple days here and there, ok you can suffer through it. If it's more constant, AC is more than worth it even if it's not strictly necessary. And it's not your opinion that would keep me away, it's the too-high temperature where you live. If you go to a friend's place and it's too cold, you just get a blanket. If it's too hot, you start looking for a reason to make an early exit.
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Fahrenheit is the superior system, I'm not sure why the rest of the world is so set on pegging things to the boiling and freezing point of water
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John Fahrenheit: "I have created a system for measuring temperature in which the temperatures people commonly experience are covered by numbers 0 through 100. Anything below 0 is too cold, anything above 100 is too hot. It a simple, elegant system" Dichael Celsius: "No! It has to be pegged to water! That is literally the only thing matters! My system is smarter because it matches water!"
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If we were going to switch I'd rather see us use the Delisle scale. It still has nice even numbers for freezing/boiling (0/150), but with 50 more degrees to more finely refine the temperatures in between.
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