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I'm working on a Black Friday build, aiming at a midrange gaming PC. 600-800, plus a $100-200 monitor. CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($145.00 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg) Memory: *Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.99 @ B&H) Video Card: *Asus - Radeon RX 580 8 GB DUAL Video Card ($184.99 @ Newegg) Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ Walmart) Power Supply: *Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.89 @ OutletPC) Total: $702.84 Just been bouncing off recommendation lists, haven't researched too much, so I'm kinda clueless.
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8 Ball posted:8 GB currently (would like to go up to 16), CPU is an i5-4460 and mobo is an ASUS H97M-E. Not sure what to upgrade first, really Just to be sure; your motherboard won’t support DDR4; if you mean upgrading memory versus a new system in a few years carry on.
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jetz0r posted:I'm working on a Black Friday build, aiming at a midrange gaming PC. 600-800, plus a $100-200 monitor. Consider changing your PSU choice to this (it carries a 12 year warranty if bought before 12/31): https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dMM323/evga-supernova-g3-750w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0750 And your RAM to this (it's CAS 15 vs. 16, which means it's just a bit faster and likely to behave better with Ryzen): https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2skwrH/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15r And lastly, case-wise, I'd probably recommend this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JsKcCJ/fractal-design-meshify-c-mini-dark-tg-microatx-mini-tower-case-fd-ca-mesh-c-mini-bko-tgd Should still keep you under $800.
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8 Ball posted:8 GB currently (would like to go up to 16), CPU is an i5-4460 and mobo is an ASUS H97M-E. Not sure what to upgrade first, really If you're doing some sort of work on it that you specifically think would benefit from 16 then it might make sense, but if you're talking about games I question how much benefit going from 8 to 16GB will be with a quad-core chip that's locked to 3.4GHz max turbo.
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Masterbox has quite bad thermals so I would definitely go with just about anything else.
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LRADIKAL posted:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B41WS48/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_9kR9Bb4DW56MQ Switched the CPU and got this compatibility error. "Some AMD X370 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Pinnacle Ridge CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions." Is this anything to be concerned about or is there another motherboard recommendation that wouldn't cause this problem? Thanks for the help.
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X470/B450 boards came out with/following Pinnacle Ridge and would all have the microcode already to run 2000-series processors, although it may be the case that most X370 boards still in the supply chain have been updated with it anyway since Pinnacle Ridge has been out for a while now.
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take me you ANIMAL posted:Switched the CPU and got this compatibility error. "Some AMD X370 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Pinnacle Ridge CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions." Is this anything to be concerned about or is there another motherboard recommendation that wouldn't cause this problem? If your PC doesn't boot you can contact AMD and they will mail you a loaner processor to get your PC bios updated to be compatible with the Pinnacle Ridge CPUs. You then mail the loaner back to them. That's if it doesn't work out of the box. The boards on shelves now should all have updated BIOS at this point.
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Really appreciate the feedback and all of the help. I have modified the build a little. I have to say, going a little higher than I anticipated. Roughly at $1,900. Was trying to shoot for $1,500 (hoping Black Friday or Cyber Monday brings the price down. Is there any place I could downgrade without compromising performance? Again looking to do some VR stuff down the line. Would like to stream every now and then. Main game I am playing now is MH:W and it is using 100% of my CPU and GPU. CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $409 Motherboard: MSI - MPG Z390M GAMING EDGE AC Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $171 CPU Fan: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler $85. Is this necessary right away if I have no plans of overclocking at the beginning? Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $145 GPU: Asus - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Dual Video Card $800. Is ASUS still a good brand for GPU or is there something better? I have always gone with ASUS for GPUs. Sotrage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $128. This may be a later date purchase if I just take my current storage which is a 250GB SSD and a 1 TB HDD Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case $97. Open to suggestions for something that has better cable management. Power: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $85 Optic: Some generic external one Monitor: Asus - PG279Q ROG Swift 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor already own this Thank you!
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Fixit posted:Really appreciate the feedback and all of the help. I have modified the build a little. I have to say, going a little higher than I anticipated. Roughly at $1,900. Was trying to shoot for $1,500 (hoping Black Friday or Cyber Monday brings the price down. Is there any place I could downgrade without compromising performance? Again looking to do some VR stuff down the line. Would like to stream every now and then. Main game I am playing now is MH:W and it is using 100% of my CPU and GPU. Make sure the NH-D15 won't intrude on the first PCI-E slot. The NH-D15S is basically the same cooler but is offset away from the first slot (also only one fan, but you can add another one later for minimal effect) to help with compatibility on MATX motherboards. In the Mini C you won't want to have to put the vid card into the second PCI-E slot, it'd be very close to the PSU shroud
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I've been meaning to buy a Mechnical Keyboard for a while, and here appear to be a collection of Black Friday deals. Are any of these particularly good?code:Chuu fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Nov 23, 2018 |
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take me you ANIMAL posted:Switched the CPU and got this compatibility error. "Some AMD X370 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Pinnacle Ridge CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions." Is this anything to be concerned about or is there another motherboard recommendation that wouldn't cause this problem? I forgot to say, change to a b450 board!
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Chuu posted:I've been meaning to buy a Mechnical Keyboard for a while, and here appear to be a collection of Black Friday deals. Are any of these particularly good? The very most important decision to make is what switch you want and you should try to get in there and actually feel different switches.
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Best Buy often has switch comparison sets on display for Cherry (and I think Razer), as well as a decent selection of sample keyboards.
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Okay, looking at my own BF tower rebuild. Casual gaming, streaming. Looking for max $1200 (sans monitor). This is cobbled together looking at builds posted here over the past 10 pages or so. The M2 I already have. Also looking for recommendations on a 32" monitor as well. The lighter and thinner the better. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($145.00 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Intel - 660p Series 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (Purchased For $249.99) Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg) Case: NZXT - H400 (White) MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($76.87 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1051.82 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-23 03:49 EST-0500 El Mero Mero fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Nov 23, 2018 |
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Looks good... Could go to a 2600x and/or a bigger heatsink!
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Is this a good deal WD Black 500GB High-Performance NVMe PCIe M.2 for 89$ with a special promo code? I have a 850 evo 250gb and am happy with it, but this price seems very good... It gets 10$ off due to the prime code deal which also has a couple of other times on the list (3 keyboards, ram, and a NVMe). https://www.amazon.com/s/browse/?ie=UTF8&node=16128680011 ughhhh fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Nov 23, 2018 |
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Looking to cut a few corners off my build to get it under that magic £1k number. Looking at RAM, I currently have 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz for £130 but I can get 3000Mhz for £113. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0143UM4TC/?coliid=I1B4AUVR1MQ12L&colid=215NMII6D3TY2&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CM...3200%2Bc15&th=1 This will be paired with a Ryzen 5 2600, my question is, am I actually going to notice a real-world difference between the two (both in gaming and stuff like rendering) or will it be imperceptible? Thanks.
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MZ posted:Looking to cut a few corners off my build to get it under that magic £1k number. The big question to ask is, is the corsair 3000mhz on your QVL for your mainboard? if it is, you should be ok. If not, and the other RAM is, pick something that is on the QVL when cutting back.
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orange juche posted:The big question to ask is, is the corsair 3000mhz on your QVL for your mainboard? if it is, you should be ok. If not, and the other RAM is, pick something that is on the QVL when cutting back. How do I go about checking this? I am looking to buy the MSI B450M Mortar.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=B450m+mortar+qvl https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450M-MORTAR#support-cpu
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Thanks, so yeah they are both supported!
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Some questions before I pull the trigger on the new PC:
BIG HEADLINE posted:Consider changing your PSU choice to this (it carries a 12 year warranty if bought before 12/31): https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dMM323/evga-supernova-g3-750w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0750 Should I do the same for this build? Specifically, with that RAM?: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($160.98 @ Newegg) Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg) Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Adorama) Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Gaming 4G Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg) Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg) Total: $600.92 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-23 10:19 EST-0500
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2600X is only a few bucks more if you want it.
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Benson Cunningham posted:2600X is only a few bucks more if you want it. It's like a good $70 from what I'm finding. 
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I bought a 550w evga powersupply not too long ago but I'm currently upgrading to a 1070ti and a 8600k and I'm wondering if this isn't going to be enough power if I do a reasonable overclock on both. I don't plan on doing any extreme overclock but I am wondering if 550w is too little for those parts.
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Pollyanna posted:It's like a good $70 from what I'm finding. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B428V2L/?tag=pcpapi-20 Looks like the price shot back up. Just 20 minutes ago it was 170 I think.
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Spaseman posted:I bought a 550w evga powersupply not too long ago but I'm currently upgrading to a 1070ti and a 8600k and I'm wondering if this isn't going to be enough power if I do a reasonable overclock on both. I don't plan on doing any extreme overclock but I am wondering if 550w is too little for those parts.
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I'm trying to decide if it'd be worth upgrading my CPU instead of building a whole new system. I assume the answer is no, but I just wanted to check first. I got super into PC building for one month in 2012, and aside from replacing a dead GPU and adding an SSD, I haven't paid attention to it at all in the past six years. Current specs: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel - Core i3-3225 3.3 GHz Dual-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock - H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.89 @ OutletPC) Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Video Card: MSI - Radeon R9 270 2 GB TWIN FROZR Video Card Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Antec - Neo Eco 400 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ SuperBiiz) Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($98.89 @ OutletPC) External Storage: Seagate - Expansion 4 TB External Hard Drive Total: $532.75 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-23 11:19 EST-0500 This has been a great system for my needs. I was able to play most games at 1080p/60fps, but lately newer games are having lots of issues, and I think the CPU is the bottleneck. Ideally, I'd love to just buy a $50-150 (used?) quad-core CPU and pop it in, but I know that might be throwing good money after bad. I can't really justify the time and expense of a brand new system right now, so it's either this or nothing for the time being. I've noticed a lot of the quad core 1155 CPUs have a slightly slower clock speed than my 3225. Would that be a noticeable downgrade, or would the extra cores make up for the performance loss?
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Benson Cunningham posted:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B428V2L/?tag=pcpapi-20 Capitalism 
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Spaseman posted:I bought a 550w evga powersupply not too long ago but I'm currently upgrading to a 1070ti and a 8600k and I'm wondering if this isn't going to be enough power if I do a reasonable overclock on both. I don't plan on doing any extreme overclock but I am wondering if 550w is too little for those parts. For anyone else with this question, I've found this estimator to be pretty reasonable. 550 watt is generally fine unless you're running multiple graphics cards or have some other unique circumstance.
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Lester Shy posted:This has been a great system for my needs. I was able to play most games at 1080p/60fps, but lately newer games are having lots of issues, and I think the CPU is the bottleneck. Ideally, I'd love to just buy a $50-150 (used?) quad-core CPU and pop it in, but I know that might be throwing good money after bad. I can't really justify the time and expense of a brand new system right now, so it's either this or nothing for the time being. Look up benchmarks for games you're struggling to play, with your GPU. Are they higher than yours? You're CPU limited. The same? That's all your GPU is going to do. Your card is roughly on-par with a 1050, which is a card you'll need to compromise with to play 1080p games released recently (maybe medium settings or so). If you can find an i7 3770 for a reasonable price (the non K holds value less easily) it should help you a lot. You may still be looking at something like a Radeon 580 to enjoy the latest games though.
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LRADIKAL posted:Looks good... Could go to a 2600x and/or a bigger heatsink! Thanks. went with both. Any recommendations/deals that folks have seen on good IPS panels 27-32"? The two I added below are what I found, not sure which one is preferable or if I should get something completely different. $350-500 is my range for monitors. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($219.99 @ B&H) CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U12S SE-AM4 CPU Cooler ($59.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Intel - 660p Series 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00) Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg) Case: NZXT - H400 (White) MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($76.87 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon) Monitor: Asus - MX27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 60 Hz Monitor ($385.25 @ Amazon) Monitor: LG - 27UD68-W 27.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor ($399.00 @ Amazon) Total: $1740.97 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-23 12:39 EST-0500 El Mero Mero fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Nov 23, 2018 |
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Will cases come with the requisite wires and cables and everything to hook up an SSD, motherboard, etc. or do I have to buy those separately? vv 
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Your components will come with all the required wires/connectors/screws, etc. The main power cable and connecting power cables will be packaged with the PSU, hard drive cables will come with your motherboard, and your case's front audio/usb ports/power button connector cables will typically come pre-installed.
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Pollyanna posted:Some questions before I pull the trigger on the new PC: I don't have personal experience with the N200, but that open side grill and the large mesh on the front panel make me a little concerned that it might end up sucking in a lot of dust (depending on your environment, of course). If that's a concern, you can buy a dust filter kit, but it has mixed reviews and doesn't come with a side panel filter for some reason (though you could repurpose the rear panel filter). Alternatively, the Fractal Design Focus G Mini is only $20 more (the price of the filter kit) and is a solid product well equipped with dust filters. It does come with LED fans and a window, though apparently the fans aren't very bright - that could be a plus or a minus. E: No one answered your Windows question! The best way to get windows 10 is to either reuse an old windows 10 or windows 7 key if you have one (you'll probably have to call support to activate it, and windows 10 can be activated with a windows 7 key), or buy a windows 7 pro key and use it to activate windows 10. SAMart has Win7 Pro keys for $25, or you can find them cheaper (and riskier) on the grey market. Stickman fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Nov 23, 2018 |
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Any ideas why PCPP doesn't always show Amazon's price? For example, I've got a Ryzen 5 2600 on my list, but it's only showing Walmart, Newegg, SuperBiiz, and PCM, even though Amazon has it in stock.
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EVGA's black friday sales are pretty good. If you're buying a power supply I'd consider getting one from them: https://www.evga.com/products/feature.aspx The ones to buy are the 650 Watt G1+ for $49.99, 750 Watt G1+ for $59.99, 1000 Watt GQ for $79.99, 1300 Watt G2 for $99.99 (it's not their best PSU but if you need that much power it's an amazing price). There's some video cards and bundles, too, but I'm mostly looking at the power supplies since every new build needs one.
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