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Doctor Reynolds posted:That was some smooooooth television. Do you think Gus will thank Nacho, or make him some sort of scapegoat? One, then the other
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Data Graham posted:It would be pretty crazy for BCS to outlast BB anyway. I disagree just because they could absolutely do a whole season of just Gene becoming Jimmy again at the end. I could see this season leading into him becoming Saul, next season being him flourishing in that role, and season six being Gene's redemption. They haven't ruled out doing BB-era stuff so that could be another season but I think that could just be wrapped up as an episode or so, with some time jumps. BB does cover 2 years, it's not ridiculous to see what's actually happening in Jimmy's life at that time. Saul is clearly a character.
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Nail Rat posted:I disagree just because they could absolutely do a whole season of just Gene becoming Jimmy again at the end. I could see this season leading into him becoming Saul, next season being him flourishing in that role, and season six being Gene's redemption. odenkirk has basically confirmed that BB-era stuff is coming in interviews, it's just a matter of when
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Dr. Despair posted:odenkirk has basically confirmed that BB-era stuff is coming in interviews, it's just a matter of when Yeah so there's easily 7 seasons if they want. Season 4: ends with Jimmy becoming Saul (needs to cover a year) Season 5: Saul solidifies his practice. Ends with Walt walking in the door. If this happens you can bank on the season 6 renewal too. Season 6: The events of breaking bad from Jimmy's perspective, and what's going on with Kim etc. Ends with Jimmy having to leave abruptly. Season 7: The redemption of Gene somehow (be the ending happy or not) They could stretch out for more but I feel like this would be a nice outline thematically and wouldn't overstay the welcome. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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Aug 8, 2018 05:33
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Doctor Reynolds posted:That was some smooooooth television. Do you think Gus will thank Nacho, or make him some sort of scapegoat? Seems just like good knowledge to file away and use if he ever has a need to put Nacho under his thumb. It's a risk even using it to threaten Nacho since doing that and not just turning him in to the cartel is an indication of how deep Gus' hatred for Hector goes. I also think people overestimate how long they'd want to spend with Gene, I view it more as a few episode arc at most, similar to BB after Ozymandias. Also by the time you get to Gene you have none of the Mike/Cartel stuff, all the other characters are out of the picture unless they come back, so to me it's not something I personally want to spend anything close to a season ruminating on, and you can do a really good 2 episode tight and thrilling resolution to the character's overall story.
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Aug 8, 2018 06:34
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Cojawfee posted:They are both very good, I don't know what you're getting at. That dude is insanely stupid
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Aug 8, 2018 09:06
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Jimmy is going to get Howard arrested for killing Chuck, I just feel it. Not in the way that he drove him to kill himself, actually murdering Chuck because of the $3 million check he could not really afford.
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Aug 8, 2018 10:09
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I didn't get the wall of gently caress Chuck posts at his funeral, you disappointed me thread. Even as full-blown Saul we only ever saw him do evil poo poo when it benefited him, most often financially, so I can't really wrap my head around how stringing up Hamlin helps Jimmy, unless it's some kind of misdirected anger play or it'd somehow help Kim in a major way. It's a drat shame Jimmy couldn't figure out how to live as a good lawyer and person. The retirement home settlement down the line, the sweet Davis and Main job, after being in a real poo poo situation when the show started he really had every chance to do good. Hell he even got screwed the other way by being too good to take the massive pile of money Mike was able to steal in typical smooth Mike fashion, and that was with the insane criminal luck of getting to know a guy willing to commit crimes but with a code of honor to not just walk off with an insane payday once he's got it. Also I'll call it now, Chuck's will donates all his assets to HHM, and Hamlin's going to try to offer some of that to Jimmy and it's going to just be ugly and awkward as hell. My second choice would be that he willed it all to some legal defense fund or legal clinic, or just straight to the classic ACLU, but I think they want to tie it all back to the firm and it's a neat out for Hamlin to not owe the money. He probably updated the will just a few days before he died too, we just didn't see him do it, and I'd be totally down for a flashback to Chuck meeting with an attorney to change the will and see him altering it so Jimmy gets one last insult hurled his way where previously he was getting a large portion of Chuck's assets, including his house. NowonSA fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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Aug 8, 2018 12:54
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CeeJee posted:Jimmy is going to get Howard arrested for killing Chuck, I just feel it. Not in the way that he drove him to kill himself, actually murdering Chuck because of the $3 million check he could not really afford. Jimmy will probably have a meltdown pretty drat soon. At the end of the premiere he seemed to me as trying to shut everything out to avoid having to deal with the fact that he has some responsibility for Chuck's suicide. This will probably not last long.
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Jimmy felt that what he did made Chuck kill himself. Now he can tell himself that Howard is the one who forced Chuck out, so it's now his fault.
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Aug 8, 2018 13:34
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I'm so bored of everything related to Gus. He was a better character in Breaking Bad.
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OctaviusBeaver posted:I'm so bored of everything related to Gus. He was a better character in Breaking Bad. Same. It’s kinda boring. I guess they could go into his Pinochet regime connections they hinted at in Breaking Bad but that just may take some of the mystery away about the character.
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Milo and POTUS posted:That dude is insanely stupid that may be but that's definitely not the post to make your case with.
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OctaviusBeaver posted:I'm so bored of everything related to Gus. He was a better character in Breaking Bad. We know Mike was Saul's PI, and was involved with Gus too, so there's plenty of tracks for the show to go down with him. Plus Mike was pretty taciturn in BB so it's been refreshing to see him more fleshed out (his turn in "Five-O" was amazing). if I had one criticism of the show it would be that I find it a bit hard to believe that Mike was this involved with Lydia pre-BB. You never got a sense that they knew eachother at all in BB (she calls him "your partner" here, for example). It's not quite fan service, but it feels like its riding the line a bit with it. Equally if Jesse or Walt pop up in the show I really hope it is completely incidental and fleeting, rather than it feeling like there's six degrees of separation between everyone we've seen in both shows. I have confidence in Vince Gilligan that it won't get that bad though. Durzel fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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OctaviusBeaver posted:I'm so bored of everything related to Gus. He was a better character in Breaking Bad. This is because in Breaking Bad he was a terrifying enigmatic bad guy. In BCS, he's just another character. Getting the backstory to a bad guy humanizes a bad guy, which always makes him less bad and scary. See also: the Star Wars prequels or Rob Zombie's Halloween movies. I blame internet fandom for the weird obsession with taking an enigmatic character and making three movies and a TV series where we see the enigmatic character's high school transcripts, family tree, and dating history and crucially whether or not they had a puppy as a child.
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Aug 8, 2018 15:30
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I love Mike's montages. Dude just strolls in, lays down some smack talk in the break room, makes his way into the warehouse, steals a cart, and acts like he owns in the place. Something about his audacity just makes me laugh sometimes.
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ConfusedUs posted:I love Mike's montages. Dude just strolls in, lays down some smack talk in the break room, makes his way into the warehouse, steals a cart, and acts like he owns in the place. I have a feeling that Lydia's going to be pissed at him for his ACTUAL security consulting. Looking forward to Mike getting to the point where he wants her dead.
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Aug 8, 2018 15:54
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It'll be hilarious if they turn out to be enemies in their above-board corporate jobs.
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Nail Rat posted:Yeah so there's easily 7 seasons if they want. well to clarify a bit more about what he said in the interview he said that there's at least one BB era scene in season 4
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:I just watched Pimento (S1E9) again to see again where Howard starts to drop the facade. Holy poo poo, what a glorious episode of TV that is. Also, back then I didn't know who Stephen Ogg was (I know him from Westworld and Walking Dead). I didn't realize he was the tactical douchebag from the parking garage. now you just made me miss Daniel, him of the PLAYUH license plate and the "squat cobbler" videos (god, between him and the Kettleteam this show has had some great bad criminals)
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For me, the huge disconnect between Jimmy, Mike, and to some degree Nacho is the only thing that stops this from being a truly great show. Well, that and the pacing, which dances the line between "slow burn" and deliberately dragging things out for more seasons. Everything else is just so drat good. There are so few shows with this much attention to subtlety, "show, don't tell", and storytelling through cinematography. Troy Queef posted:now you just made me miss Daniel, him of the PLAYUH license plate and the "squat cobbler" videos Yeah, I like that the show has also thrown in a little bit of everything. Some people scoff at the idea that this was originally going to be a pure comedy, but because of bits like these, I would watch the hell out of a show where Jimmy/Saul has to deal with a constant stream of dumb criminals.
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Dr. Despair posted:well to clarify a bit more about what he said in the interview Speculation based on the spoiler text above, no new info: Maybe it’s a flashback in BB but real-time in BCS? I can’t think of B.B flashbacks that involved Saul though.
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I like the Gus stuff. I like the Mike stuff. I like all the stuff this show does. Still, 100%, forever, gently caress Chuck
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Durzel posted:I get the sense that the problem is that Gus's backstory isn't really relevant to anything for two reasons - we already know pretty much everything we need to know about it from BB (the flashback to when his business partner was shot by Hector) and it doesn't involve Jimmy, or even anyone else relevant in BCS. I can't find the scene where Lydia is speaking to Mike in a diner before the clip you have here, but I got the distinct impression they were very familiar with one another. Which is precisely why Lydia came to him to get rid of the other guys, and why she knew he was the most dangerous one and offered the one dude more money to take Mike out.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I have a feeling that Lydia's going to be pissed at him for his ACTUAL security consulting. I'm excited for more frantic, strung out and paranoid Lydia scenes
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I think the more pertinent question is what happens to the money that Howard was going to give Chuck? The whole "I gave him 3 million dollars with the promise of 6 million more on the way" wasn't brought up in Howard's confession of "I forced him out." As much as I love Mike Time I would have liked for the matter of Chuck's will to have been addressed in the season premiere. Did everyone forget that Chuck had a wife? He probably left everything to her. SimonChris fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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Nail Rat posted:I can't find the scene where Lydia is speaking to Mike in a diner before the clip you have here, but I got the distinct impression they were very familiar with one another. Which is precisely why Lydia came to him to get rid of the other guys, and why she knew he was the most dangerous one and offered the one dude more money to take Mike out. Mike also speaks of her as "that woman" and seems to dislike her for reasons beyond what we're shown of her in Breaking Bad.
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I could see Chuck being arrogant enough not to have set up a will, making Jimmy his heir by default.
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He probably set up a will when he was married. if he never changed it, that's the most recent one.
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I'm live posting from the ABQ
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Random observation; Patrick Fabian seemed noticably older, and while Jonathan Banks didn't quite seem at death's door like he did last year, he still looked pretty old. Hope everything's well with both of them.
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As much as I love Saul as a character, Mike is such a great part of the show.
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Okay that Mike montage was great but the music they used was too close to the Dangeresque theme.
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Aug 8, 2018 23:57
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Haha wtf is that magazine. It'd be just like Mike to follow up on that and make sure the guy becomes widely known in pie sitting circles.
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That's a high quality magazine right there. Need to get a subscription.
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it's one of two I did during season 1 when photosop phriday was still a thing embiggen for full version  
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Definitely expecting Lydia to do something that's totally not Mike's style and that will piss him off, though I expect that to happen once he's actively working as Gus' right hand man. Like it'll start with her being pissed off that he actually came in and did work, but there's going to be a major incident between them that basically has them staying out of each other's business to keep a kind of peace, probably on Gus' orders.
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Lydia is gonna be pissed as hell at Mike. he's attracting unnecessary attention when he's not even supposed to exist, and if anything their sloppy practices might even be part of how they obscure, launder and traffic money/drugs.
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I'd like it if it just came down to some petty office drama where one foreman is pissed because he's losing fifteen minutes times ten workers every day to requisition and inspect their lifting belts, gloves, etc... because that's what would really happen.
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