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TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
Fuku's hat is going to seem downright quaint by the time this LP is done.

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Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Japan has an extremely powerful headgear game.

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
Episode 22



Episode 22: “The Missing Catalogue”, “The Fallen Onmyo Mages” and “Greater Demon Hunting” - Youtube | Polsy

In today's episode we return to the happiest haunted mountain in Japan to clean up a few errant mystics, before rounding out the episode with a mission with only one enemy in it but this one enemy has a bucket-load of health and will one-shot you if it hits you.

I'd like to think Greater Demon Hunting is a mission Nioh enthusiasts who are watching the videos were looking forwards to similar to the Benkei fight, I hope it doesn't disappoint!

Characters


Sakata Kintoki – A great hero from the Heian Period that has become a deified legend of folklore that persists even in modern times. Renowned for his phenomenal strength and his kind heart, he treads a never-ending path of combat through the underworld to protect the dreams of children from the nightmarish evil of the yokai.
Entry 1: Clear “Greater Demon Hunting”

Yokai


Onryoki
Entry 2

Brunom1
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about being the best dad ever.
Is this the video that most perfectly embodies the duality of Roboky? In one bit, he's getting repeatedly clowned on by oni/hubris, and, in the other, he's tearing through a tough-as-nails boss with Kintaro.

Also, I'm afraid I must be that guy since Coolguy won't: it's pronounced ten-goo! :goonsay:

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

Brunom1 posted:

Also, I'm afraid I must be that guy since Coolguy won't: it's pronounced ten-goo! :goonsay:

I hope you're ready for 100 videos where I continue to say it wrong because we've recorded way ahead of here and there's way more to put up with because I DON'T LEARN! There's a character later where I just go "I'm not even going to use that name I'm using one of his other names gently caress this my mouth is mush"

cokerpilot
Apr 23, 2010

Battle Brothers! Stop coming to meetings drunk and trying to adopt Tevery Best!

Lord General! Stop standing on the table and making up stupid operation names!

Emperor, why do I put up with these people?
The end of that video is pretty freaking Golden.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
I do eventually correct his pronunciation of tengu, I have no idea why it didn’t bug the hell out of me earlier on but it just didn’t and I wasn’t thinking about it. Naturally I only do this when the main campaign is almost over. :v:

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
One nitpick: the One Thousand and One Nights aren't precisely old Muslim tales, some of stories are older than Islam - there are, for example, originally Indian and Persian (/Zoroastrian, if you go by religion of the region then) tales, including the framing story of Scheherezade (which apparently originates in Sasanid Persia).
Genies/djinn, specifically, are originally pre-Islamic folklore and gods that got absorbed into the religion as it grew.

e: Also, low-stance tonfas are the best weapon in the game, nothing like clobbering oni in the nuts at supersonic speeds.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Jan 15, 2020

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
Episode 23



Episode 23: The Iga Escape - Youtube | Polsy

Today's episode kicks off what you might call the crossing over between Oda Nobunaga's greatest hits onto big moments of Tokugawa Ieyasu's life. It also gives us a chance to talk a little more about the historical status of the Hattori Hanzo that stands before us, and a little bit of ninja lore altogether. The level itself is top shelf, with both an incredible design and a satisfyingly fun boss fight.

Characters


Hattori Hanzo
Entry 4: Clear “The Iga Escape”

Amrita Memories

Background
Gimmicked Mansions from “The Iga Escape”

Yokai


Giant Toad – There are many reasons a Ninja Yokai may appear in the form of a Giant Toad, which range from the legends of ninjas being able to transform themselves into frogs, to stories of toads living long enough to gain human level consciousness and awareness. The truth of this Giant Toad however may be that he simply wished to take this form, to better pass on his Iga Ninja teachings to the next generation of protectors that come before him.
Entry 1

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Random digression, if you need Friday Movie Night material I can greatly recommend Ice Pirates and Space Hunter: Adventure in the forbidden zone if you haven't already seen them. Also Dragonslayer is worth a watch.
And now I wish I could resume that with my friends as well but we can't due to dumb technical reasons.

Bellmaker
Oct 18, 2008

Chapter DOOF



NINJA HOUSE NINJA HOUSE NINJA HOOOOOOUSE :swoon:

Such a great level with such a great boss at the end. Hoping Nioh 2 has more levels like this and less cave/ancient cave/yet another cave levels, because when this game wants to have a good time it goes all out.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Bellmaker posted:

NINJA HOUSE NINJA HOUSE NINJA HOOOOOOUSE :swoon:

cokerpilot
Apr 23, 2010

Battle Brothers! Stop coming to meetings drunk and trying to adopt Tevery Best!

Lord General! Stop standing on the table and making up stupid operation names!

Emperor, why do I put up with these people?
Admiral Perry : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTs8qiOMh_o

Also so glad that Coolguye had the exact same reaction as the frog boss. So much style with that Boss.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
I honestly thought ninjas weren't a real thing in the first place - sure, there was guerilla warfare and sabotage but just as a tactic employed by regular soldiers and spies that eventually got romanticized into sneaking specialists in pajamas?

Anyhow, this is my favorite level in the game, and that's considering the fact it contains spiders. Everything about it just perfectly dickish.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Jan 22, 2020

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
there's some pretty insane stories from this time period that turn out to be either verifiably true or at least very plausible, like Miyamoto Musashi's outbreak from a sword school that ambushed him with dozens of students or one of Ishida Mitsunari's retainers fighting like such a demon during the battle of Sekigahara that we actually have no official record of his death because everyone who faced him was so traumatized they had to black the memory out to cope. I tackle the latter one and why it makes sense in a later episode actually.

with all of that stuff flying around i can definitely forgive people for buying into the idea that networks of elite black bag wearing spies and assassins infested japan's castles around this time because it honestly doesn't sound that much more far fetched than a single hero whirlwinding two swords in a razor-edge death spiral to fight off dozens of enemies or one dude holding the line for such a long time and so bitterly that people opposing him literally could not handle the memory of it.

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
I'd like to correct Coolguye on one point which is that Miyamoto Musashi was not ambushed by dozens of students from a sword school but rather they attempted to set up an ambush but he ambushed them instead.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
i always get little details like that backward

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
It's an easy mistake to make, after all the entire school made the mistake too. They went "Okay Musashi is always late to sword fights so everyone get set up with spears, bows and whatever else we can get our hands on and when he turns up for this duel against a little kid we set up we loving murder him"

Miyamoto Musashi had turned up early that day and hidden himself well.

glocknar
May 17, 2017
The problem for them, of course, is that it lead to them coming down with a case of "hostile Miyamoto Musashi-itis," which is far more lethal for the patient than getting things wrong on the internet is, mostly do to the fact that the man himself hasn't quite figured out how to stab people through computer screens from the afterlife. YET.

WaltherFeng
May 15, 2013

50 thousand people used to live here. Now, it's the Mushroom Kingdom.
Papa Hattori is confirmed for Nioh 2 and I love how his design is basically the same except less frog

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

WaltherFeng posted:

Papa Hattori is confirmed for Nioh 2 and I love how his design is basically the same except less frog



It's kinda wild what's popping up in all these updates for Nioh 2 info, a lot of events Coolguye and I have discussed in relation to historical context in Nioh will appear in Nioh 2. To say I'm excited is a super-understatement.

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
Episode 24



Episode 24: Training, Tome and... Tengu? - Youtube | Polsy

Today's episode is a lot of stuff! We've got three training missions and two regular missions, which is honestly pretty wild for how long the episode is and we had to get a ringer for William part of the way through it.


Senji Tome
Entry 3: Acquire 3 Magatama


Marume Nagayoshi
Entry 3: Clear “Way of the Warrior: Veteran”
Entry 4: Defeat Marume Nagayoshi three times

Yokai


Onyudo
Entry 2

TheLastRoboKy fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Feb 3, 2020

Bellmaker
Oct 18, 2008

Chapter DOOF



Sooo that Grass mission in Twilight mode adds on an extra wave of more Oni-Bis and TWO Wheelmonks at the end :negative:

I gotta watch Kurosawa's stuff, The Man with No Name trilogy are some of my favorite movies. Ennio Morricone's music isn't a ripoff at least :swoon:

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer
The loving introduction of the town in Yojimbo is such loving good cinema. Kurosawa movies are amazing.


Also i forget the director but there is another samurai movie called KILL! that is also very good.

MadDogMike
Apr 9, 2008

Cute but fanged
Gotta agree with Yojimbo as the best Kurosawa, yeah, especially with how much you can read under the surface of Toshiro Mifune's character during the whole thing. Kinda funny the sequel Sanjuro went a much more lighthearted route really, although it still works surprisingly well.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

I think I prefer Yojimbo as well, I found Rashomon a bit too sluggish for my own taste.
Or possibly Throne of Blood.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Yojimbo is probably my overall favorite, but picking a favorite Kurosawa movie is hard; he made so many great movies.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
I had no idea that shuriken gesture existed and my life was poorer for it.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
I've only seen seven samurai, and it was great. What's the best place to find all the others? I'm guessing Amazon prime or Netflix has them

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
netflix doesn't have any of kurosawa's stuff. amazon prime might, not sure. even then though, some of his much older stuff, like Stray Dog, you're probably just going to need to 'obtain'. Stray Dog in particular is a really good intro to Kurosawa and Mifune I feel just because it's much earlier in their respective careers (Mifune is a LOT younger than he was in Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, etc) and introduces you to a lot of the precepts of their work together from early on. It's a police procedural that has a relatively mundane tag line (Mifune's character is a detective who loses his service pistol and is tasked with getting it back) that gets increasingly more insane with a strong eye toward the details and context of the time period it's set in - specifically, it's set in very very fresh post-war Japan, so they're doing things like tracking people through their ration cards.

Most people are only dimly aware of the food rationing period that happened after the Japanese surrender in WW2 because 97% of the Japanese merchant marine had been sunk by US subs in the pacific theater. The resulting food crisis was so acute that the strict majority of the country was set to starve without massive importation and enforced distribution. So yeah, ration cards were a thing for a while as the country got back to normal. So when you're trying to track a fugitive, it ended up being a primary way to do it because that ration card was how that fugitive was going to keep getting food.

It's the sort of second-step thinking you see so rarely in movies but is so emblematic of Kurosawa's thinking, and Mifune's magnetic performances always bring it home in the biggest way.

Basically:

Night10194 posted:

Yojimbo is probably my overall favorite, but picking a favorite Kurosawa movie is hard; he made so many great movies.
(Though for me it's High and Low because I loooooooooooove me some police procedurals)

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer
I think there is a collection from criterion still.

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back
There is; it's missing some of the later epics like Kagemusha and Ran but it's still got a ton of his best work available.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


If you people like the more Stray Dog stuff I also really enjoyed "The Bad Sleep Well".

Quick aside, food rationing after WW2 in the UK didn't end until 1954 (though of course it had steadily been relaxed between the end of the war and then).

Munin fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Jan 30, 2020

Moleboy
Apr 20, 2011

Looksy
-Hindsight-

Looking Back, I am sure of 2 things:
1. I should have found the thread before it finished
2. Grimper may have actually done one or two things wrong
Just wanted to pop in long enough to say after watching for a few videos you got me to re-download Nioh since I never finished out DLC 2 or 3, as well as making a serious consideration of pre-ordering Nioh 2.

I'd forgotten just how drat fun this game was, and that if you re-run / re-roll your char and play with different sets of weapons really makes it feel completely different.

I played through the first time I played as Dual Swords, but man, Odachi / Kusarigama can be really really fun.

Thanks again for the LP!

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
I could've sworn kagemusha was on Netflix.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

I think it was at one point because I thought the same.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

The nobel prize for economics is not an actual nobel prize and consists mostly of economists jacking each other off.
hth

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Yeah, and Kahneman needs to be taken with a grain of salt because while he did uncover and describe a lot of psychology's quirks, a lot of his theories were based on underpowered studie and as such were hit by the replication crisis pretty hard.
Thinking Fast and Slow is still a great book to read (mostly, e.g. the stuff on priming is rather questionable now) but I wish he'd put out an updated edition, even if it would consist of just omitting the results of weak studies.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Rigged Death Trap posted:

The nobel prize for economics is not an actual nobel prize and consists mostly of economists jacking each other off.
hth
i mean the prize is warded by the nobel committee and its recipients and reasons are recorded on nobelprize.org, literally right underneath the peace prize in the dropdown menu on the far left so i'm not sure what the distinction is here for a 'fake' nobel prize

arguably all the nobel prizes are scientists of various fields jacking each other off and there's quite a serious argument to be made for the nobel committee commending things that are dramatic rather than truly helpful. remember that they awarded obama a peace prize when he had done literally nothing. that isn't a knock on Obama either, remember that even he was like "wait what the gently caress".

but if we're going to single out a single prize as not worth regarding because of some culture around it i dunno where we draw the line.

anilEhilated posted:

Yeah, and Kahneman needs to be taken with a grain of salt because while he did uncover and describe a lot of psychology's quirks, a lot of his theories were based on underpowered studie and as such were hit by the replication crisis pretty hard.
Thinking Fast and Slow is still a great book to read (mostly, e.g. the stuff on priming is rather questionable now) but I wish he'd put out an updated edition, even if it would consist of just omitting the results of weak studies.

the faults that showed up with kahneman's stuff on priming are mostly related to his studies not going deep enough into what priming entails rather than the effects of priming, which iirc is what i was referencing in this episode (forgive me, it's been a hot minute since we actually recorded this ep so i don't remember the full weight of what i said). there's an entire way and method of pre-priming and pre-programming the fast thinking, intuitive 'system 1' that kahneman refers to in the book that was pretty much wholly unknown at the time even though toward the end of the book there's some half-assed paragraphs talking about how this is probably a thing but he can't prove it. basically, the priming takes place in the context that your intuitive system has, and that context is itself something that has been built up of a lot of priming events. so it's this weird recursive priming poo poo that isn't handled well by the book (where it implies priming is much more deterministic based upon the host culture or childhood/formative experiences you had) because the actually exhaustive studies that got a more full and satisfying answer had to build upon the results that kahneman extracted (and indeed most of them directly cite these studies).

definitely agreed that he needs to write an updated edition, the cognition model is something that has seen intense study over the last few decades, but thinking fast and slow remains one of the only public-consumable books of any heft on the topic. over the course of this LP i've been reading a lot of books written by various scientists that bitch about that state of affairs a lot, though, there's another thing coming where I reference why we sleep by matthew walker and like half of his preface is bitching about how there's been assloads of research done on sleep and sleep effects but there's basically no books for people to read on the topic, which is why he's writing this one.

walker bluntly calls this state of affairs a failure on the part of the scientific community, so if he's to be sustained on that (and he's certainly got more room to talk on the topic than my rear end), then we can definitely say kahneman's failure to follow up on all of the stuff done by and with him as a real failure on the goal he set forth in thinking fast and slow.

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Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

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Coolguye posted:

i mean the prize is warded by the nobel committee and its recipients and reasons are recorded on nobelprize.org, literally right underneath the peace prize in the dropdown menu on the far left so i'm not sure what the distinction is here for a 'fake' nobel prize

arguably all the nobel prizes are scientists of various fields jacking each other off and there's quite a serious argument to be made for the nobel committee commending things that are dramatic rather than truly helpful. remember that they awarded obama a peace prize when he had done literally nothing. that isn't a knock on Obama either, remember that even he was like "wait what the gently caress".

but if we're going to single out a single prize as not worth regarding because of some culture around it i dunno where we draw the line.

Naw as in the Nobel Prize for economics was not in Alfred Nobel's will and was actually started in 1968 from a donation from the swedish central bank to celebrate their 300th anniversary. Besides, it gives a (perceived) hard science edge to what is essentially is and will always be a soft, social science, and how it gives air to only capitalist economic theory, I have many gripes about it.

I'm not addressing the legitimacy of any of the other nobel prizes, but I am specifically calling out the economics one as trash.

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