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the corona quid posted:It’s a lot more nuanced than that and I think fundamentally the hard left acting like it’s some huge silent majority within the general public that’s consistently failed to materialized as opposed to as a smaller faction and acting more pragmatically has done the bulk of the damage to its own movement rather than any sort of external force. I’d rather talk about why people think magic mushrooms will help them quit smoking though... that’s just me though 🤷🏼♂️ Do you honestly believe the hard left has done more damage to itself than any external forces? Magic mushrooms will help you quit smoking because they will make you experience the perspective of each cell in your body.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:it's literally just tcc suggesting lsd for everything I know this tcc thing is a funny meme, but in the decade since those posts were mocked and psychedelic-assisted therapy has become a) a real thing that many scientists and doctors are using b) poised to be a huge breakthrough in treating PTSD, depression, and yes, addiction (including cigs) Don't take my word for it, take Johns Hopkins' word. They opened an entire research center devoted to psychedelics.  quote:“Johns Hopkins is deeply committed to exploring innovative treatments for our patients. Our scientists have shown that psychedelics have real potential as medicine, and this new center will help us explore that potential.” Mind you, it's not as simple as "take LSD, cure depression." You use psychedelics in very controlled settings in conjunction with some very intense therapy. But the success rates using psychedelics for truly suffering patients (like cancer victims with treatment-resistant depression) will give you hope for the world. I could go on and on about this, its all very exciting and a ton of support and research funding is pouring on.
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Fried Watermelon posted:Do you honestly believe the hard left has done more damage to itself than any external forces? Yes. I quit smoking cold turkey from a pack a day and I have a hard time seeing how magic mushrooms would’ve enhanced or made that experience any easier.
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Oct 20, 2020 19:35
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Magic mushrooms will help you understand that cigarettes do not like to be burned and they suffer greatly as they die, you monster
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Oct 20, 2020 19:48
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the corona quid posted:Yes. Do you have a hard time seeing things from other people's perspectives?
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Oct 20, 2020 20:50
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How long do I have to be a feminist before I turn into a chaos dragon? I'm starting to get impatient and Jordo-Pee isn't very clear in the specifics.
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Oct 20, 2020 20:51
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I started smoking cigarettes when I was 15 and quit cold turkey when I was 24. The first week is a bitch, but cold turkey is the only way you’re going to quit that poo poo. I tried everything else.
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Oct 20, 2020 20:52
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I used magick to quit smoking, it was pretty cool tbh
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Oct 20, 2020 20:53
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I quit my first time but I was never all that heavy of a smoker and I can't rule out the influence of hexcraft
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Oct 20, 2020 20:57
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the corona quid posted:The wishing death on prominent right wing figures really destroyed the whole advantage the left had and just devolved it into a “us versus them” slap fight. "the left" is not actually a group of people, it's a political framework used by a group of people. The things that people do in service of that framework are separate from the framework itself and can neither legitimise or delegitimise it. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you. Anyone who believes them needs to work on their critical thinking.
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Call Your Grandma posted:"the left" is not actually a group of people, it's a political framework used by a group of people. The things that people do in service of that framework are separate from the framework itself and can neither legitimise or delegitimise it. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you. Anyone who believes them needs to work on their critical thinking. utterly meaningless pedantry is also unappealing to most people
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Oct 20, 2020 21:27
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Everything is a spectrum of variation and nothing works 100% of the time for 100% of people. Some people can quit smoking cold turkey, some will never be successful without tailing off with the patch, somebody out there will take magic mushrooms and suddenly never feel like smoking again. Some people clean their room because they were raised that way, some because they'd figured out that living in filth sucks, and some people will never clean their room until a surrogate father figure tells them that it's the key to self-actualizing their manliness and fending off the chaos dragon.
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Oct 20, 2020 21:29
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I watched a bunch of Peterson videos at one point and he has repeatedly said "women's lips are reds because of apples" as if the audience's mind is gonna be blown by this non-fact. How embarrassing.
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Oct 20, 2020 21:35
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I'm pretty sure his daughter is the one calling all the shots now. She doesn't want the grift train to stop and iirc was the one making sketchy medical decisions for him in russia
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Oct 20, 2020 21:43
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I'm Crap posted:utterly meaningless pedantry is also unappealing to most people A cruel attack on academia
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Oct 20, 2020 21:43
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Sometimes, the best advice you can be given is to suck it up, and soldier through
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isn't pedantry by definition meaningless? if it was meaningful detail it wouldn't be pedantic to point it out.
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The platonic ideal versions of "the left" and "the right" are stored in the same hermetically-sealed glass case that holds the prototype kilogram, and so the actions and stated values of the members that constitute either group cannot, therefore, reflect on the correctness or value of these idealized forms, as thoughts cannot penetrate the perfect vacuum environment that keeps them in their pristine state
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Klyith posted:Everything is a spectrum of variation and nothing works 100% of the time for 100% of people. Some people can quit smoking cold turkey, some will never be successful without tailing off with the patch, somebody out there will take magic mushrooms and suddenly never feel like smoking again. I dunno, when you hear other ex smokers talk about having cravings for years afterwards I kinda feel like there’s a right and wrong way to quit smoking. I struggled through two years of half assed quit attempts through various methods. It was only when I sat down, thought about it and really arrived at the fact that smoking was making my life worse and I wasn’t really deriving any joy from it any more that it felt easy to give up. I spent a weekend just trying to keep my mind off it and I’ve never really had a craving after that point. It’s hard for me to really go along with the “different things work for different people” when some people seem to be in absolute misery about quitting. Some ways must be more effective than others in my mind.
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im the ceo of marx corporation
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lmao just remembering him being on an all meat diet.. what an intellectual lmao 
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Squashing Machine posted:The platonic ideal versions of "the left" and "the right" are stored in the same hermetically-sealed glass case that holds the prototype kilogram, and so the actions and stated values of the members that constitute either group cannot, therefore, reflect on the correctness or value of these idealized forms, as thoughts cannot penetrate the perfect vacuum environment that keeps them in their pristine state The prototype kilogram needs to be sealed because it is an authoritative source for a universally acknowledged truth. "The left" or "The right" represent sets of values. They are both abstract concepts, which are not the same thing as a discrete person or even a group of individuals. It is a very basic distinction!
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the corona quid posted:I dunno, when you hear other ex smokers talk about having cravings for years afterwards I kinda feel like there’s a right and wrong way to quit smoking. I struggled through two years of half assed quit attempts through various methods. It was only when I sat down, thought about it and really arrived at the fact that smoking was making my life worse and I wasn’t really deriving any joy from it any more that it felt easy to give up. I spent a weekend just trying to keep my mind off it and I’ve never really had a craving after that point. I absolutely agree that a conscious, self-determined decision is a much better starting point that trying to do things because you feel obligated or pressure from family. My mom's a nearly lifelong smoker. She successfully quit for over a decade when she had kids, but started again during a very stressful time in her life and continued ever since. I think the fact that she quit for an external reason was probably why she went back. But I also gotta point out: maybe the fact that you'd already tried other things and failed was part of why your self-determined cold turkey willpower was so effective? I dunno.
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toggle posted:lmao just remembering him being on an all meat diet.. what an intellectual lmao Beef, specifically. So no fish or other proteins that could have had other helpful nutrition. Just beef. Probably overcooked too.
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An all meat diet has to be tough on your liver. I like meat but I can't imagine eating it all day every day for every meal. Even the most succulent steaks would be gross after a week.
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toggle posted:lmao just remembering him being on an all meat diet.. what an intellectual lmao Ah yes changing your whole diet to spite the vegetarians
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Who What Now posted:Beef, specifically. So no fish or other proteins that could have had other helpful nutrition. Just beef. Probably overcooked too. 
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Also I feel obligated to post this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMMW2eqND3o
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Oct 20, 2020 22:33
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I'll be darned, that looks like a chicken breast. My bad.
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Who What Now posted:Beef, specifically. So no fish or other proteins that could have had other helpful nutrition. Just beef. Probably overcooked too. footage of jorps russian counselling sessions found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eZyspecXJE
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Oct 20, 2020 22:51
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Neat video from Creationist Cat about ol' JP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Z54dgdZqg
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the corona quid posted:The wishing death on prominent right wing figures really destroyed the whole advantage the left had and just devolved it into a “us versus them” slap fight. lmao
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Oct 20, 2020 22:59
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Death to anyone and everyone IMHO
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Now that's a message I can get behind
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Oct 20, 2020 23:35
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N. Senada posted:Death to anyone and everyone IMHO youre not wrong
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the corona quid posted:I dunno, when you hear other ex smokers talk about having cravings for years afterwards I kinda feel like there’s a right and wrong way to quit smoking. I struggled through two years of half assed quit attempts through various methods. It was only when I sat down, thought about it and really arrived at the fact that smoking was making my life worse and I wasn’t really deriving any joy from it any more that it felt easy to give up. I spent a weekend just trying to keep my mind off it and I’ve never really had a craving after that point. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3506170/ tldr; the longer you indulge an addictive substance/pattern, the more deeply it becomes ingrained in your behavior, also genetics plays a role quote:Functional polymorphisms within CYP2A6 have been associated with number of cigarette smoked per day. Variation within the dopamine β-hydroxylase (DBH) gene has been associated with smoking cessation so you got lucky when it comes to genes and most likely didn't indulge in smoking for decades before hand
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So glad I don't have the slightest clue who this twerp is. 
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I hope jordan peterson recovers and gets well. I wish everyone in this thread the best and I hope that you can purge the hatred from your heart and free your mind of this man some day.
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Robo Reagan posted:lol at goons saying jorp bad then turning right around and saying psychology is bad hope u fellas been cleanin ur rooms Psychology, while not bad per se, suffers from some fundamental problems. Something like two thirds of peer reviewed psychology studies can't be replicated. There are some obvious methodological problems but I think the fundamental problem is you can't have empirical data about people's minds. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis Who What Now posted:Beef, specifically. So no fish or other proteins that could have had other helpful nutrition. Just beef. Probably overcooked too. No ketchup?!
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