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AvianPundit
Feb 14, 2013

Lollercide

Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:

That place in Williamsburg is terrible btw. The cages are gross, he crams a ton of birds in each cage, and there are no toys are anything. Half the birds are plucked pretty bad.

That sucks! It makes me miss Paterson Bird Store even more. I refuse to board them anywhere else because everywhere in the city charges twice as much to do so, or is a poo poo hole I wouldn't want to take my birds into let alone leave them at... :negative:

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AvianPundit
Feb 14, 2013

Lollercide

Chaosfeather posted:

Ivan report: I can't pick him up at all, and that's fine. I opened the door to his cage and he'll come out and whistle at me, and I try to ignore him when he's in the cage and eating so he feels safer. I think I'm starting to see the problem and the potential solution, though I'm not sure why it's gotten to this.

He's mostly reactive to my (now ugly) hands. He acts with fear, goes to the places I normally pick him up and, after a small 'flinch' of ducking his head and crouching, will move somewhere else. For whatever reason he's now scared of my hands, and that must be part of the problem. The only aggression he's shown this afternoon is when my hands come out to move something or offer a treat. I've been dropping them off in his bowl and he'll come out and threaten me. After a short stare down he'll retreat, and I'll let him go get it. Is this the right thing to do here? I feel it's better than making it dramatic.

So I suppose I'll let him adjust to a hand-less lifestyle until he calms down a little and I hopefully have a behaviorist.

Which leads me to a (much more minor) problem. I have an appointment with an exotic specialist that I managed to get a hold of, and the appointment is this wednesday. How do I get Ivan into the carrier (that he now dislikes, and I dont blame him for) without using my hands and scaring him more? I was thinking of a bribe but I'm not sure the power of pistachios will compel him to fall for the trap. Any other tricks?

Once again, thank you guys so much for the help. This guy seems to be awesome and if he turns out to be just that I'll be happy to let other socal goons know about him.

Before the 'tiels were comfortable with stepping up, we used to "herd" them into the carrier with this huge sketch pad that we'd open and it would create an inverted wedge. I assume your bird is clipped?

AvianPundit fucked around with this message at 05:03 on May 4, 2013

Chaosfeather
Nov 4, 2008

AvianPundit posted:

An amazing idea

He is clipped and I have those sketchpads everywhere. This is brilliant and a huge relief. Thanks again.

electricgoat
Aug 17, 2009
Many thanks to SaNChEzZ, Battle Pigeon, and LITERALLY A BIRD for your input. My problem is that my roommate keeps saying that he's been researching birds for over a year, so he knows, and what do I know about birds? And honestly, I don't know anything about birds, so I second guess myself. Like, things instinctively feel wrong, and I don't know if I'm misunderstanding Bird's signals based on my own horror at my roommate's actions, or if what he's doing is actually wrong.

SaNChEzZ: He tried giving her treats, but she won't go near his hands to take them (GEE I WONDER WHY). I think it might be too late for the treat thing to work, unless he's willing to stop touching her and just hold food in his hand for her to eat from. But I doubt he has the patience for that. And her wings are supposedly clipped. I have no idea how she has such glorious escapes. She can somehow fly (I guess glide?) across the entire living room. Also, it's interesting that they don't like being on the ground. What's the best way for him to play with her outside the cage? On a bird gym, like LITERALLY A BIRD suggests?

Battle Pigeon: I've tried to explain to him since he first got Bird that this is very scary for her and everything is different. She's eating different food, and has a different schedule, and has different people and doesn't have her bird family and friends anymore. I've been suggesting that he give her time to get used to her new cage and new routine before getting used to him. Here is a direct quote of his response: "But I want her to love me now!" Grats on being 4 years old.

LITERALLY A BIRD: He bought a little playgym for her, and has it in the living room where he watches TV. He had put her on it a couple days ago, but he kept trying to touch her, so she kept flying away. He just cannot handle not grabbing her, ugh. I've been encouraging him to talk to her, and he says it's a good idea, but he doesn't do it. I don't understand. Who doesn't chatter stupid nonsense to their pets constantly? She chatters back, too, so it's way more satisfying than talking to a cat.

The good thing is that today he said that Bird seems to like him less every day. It was after that comment that I reminded him about how she needs some time to adjust, and he gave his love me now response. But hopefully the fact that he has observed that she hates him more every day means he will eventually realize he needs to change his ways. I am optimistic.

And some cute bird stuff! While my roommate was showering, I popped over to visit and play with Bird. She loves it when I shake this bell toy for her. She has now started to call me over to shake the bell. She's going to get me busted, though, because later on, I was talking to my roommate in the living room, and Bird stared at me, chirped, then stared at her bell, then back at me. She kept doing it until I left the room. I'm sorry, Bird! You can only be my secret friend. :( My rooommate headed out for a bit late tonight, so I snuck out again to get in some playing and singing time. She seems to click more the sleepier she gets. Is it maybe like a noise birds make when they're tired, rather than an affectionate sound? Also, I was singing to her as she was drifting off to sleep, and I had my hand resting on the top of the cage over her and near her bell. I pulled my hand away slowly to leave her alone to sleep, and she started to flip out and wouldn't calm down until I put my hand back. Poor bird. She is so sweet, and so easy to read. I hope my roommate starts thinking about what he can do for Bird, instead of demanding that Bird love him.

Malalol
Apr 4, 2007

I spent $1,000 on my computer but I'm too "poor" to take my dog or any of my animals to the vet for vet care. My neglect caused 1 of my birds to die prematurely! My dog pisses everywhere! I don't care! I'm a piece of shit! Don't believe me? Check my post history in Pet Island!

AvianPundit posted:

We just moved to Brooklyn from NJ. The 'tiels are adjusting well to the new apartment, thankfully, but we're having trouble finding a place that does wing-clipping at a remotely reasonable price. The place we used to get it done at charged $7 per bird but it's so far away now.
\

Woohoo another brooklyn bird buddy ^5
Ive never paid for wingclips and do them myself. But I dont even clip anymore, and get annoying cockatiels in my hair. oh well. are there no nearby vets that do it... ?

electricgoat posted:

"But I want her to love me now!" Grats on being 4 years old.


And some cute bird stuff!

That nemo dentist girl is the perfect example that is hilarious. and congratulations on your new secret bird :( i almost think.. eventually he'll get tired of being bit and either listens to you and forgets wanting the bird and abandons it.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

electricgoat posted:

Roommate birdjerk

It really sounds like the bird is taking to you, because you're doing things that HE SHOULD BE DOING :haw: You're not encroaching on her territory, you're being nice, and treating her like the scared little creature she is. So, good job on that, you are a better bird owner than your roommate without even trying! In my experience, the clicking is a sound of affection, at least with my conure, parrotlets might be completely different though. And yes, about the floor thing, when they're on the floor everything is taller than them and they can't see poo poo. Pinpoint accurate sight being a bird's saving grace in the wild (along with hearing), this poses a huge problem as they can't see predators. Cockatiels on the other hand, ground foragers, and derpy, but they live in the desert where it's easy to spot predators from the ground for the most part. Parrotlets are tropical birds, think of your house as the canopy in the jungle, if they're on the floor 99% of predators are above them, so they don't like that. That's also another reason why the floor is used as punishment, they really dislike it for the most part.

KillerChicken posted:


Here he is, trying to show you his butt

This makes me feel better, a ray of hope piercing through moulted feathers and festering wounds! (They're not festering, but they hurt like poo poo for about a week)

Official Bizness
Dec 4, 2007

wark wark wark



A friend's working with a vulture at her zoo right now and she keeps coming home with torn apart hands. Jesus, people.

The lovebirds aren't acclimating to our new apartment well. I set up a giant cage for them I'd purchased back when I lived in a large house, but being ground foragers, they aren't dealing well with the increased height and won't settle down to make a new nest for their breeding cycle. Guess it's time to McGuyver a nesting box.

electricgoat, you're doing fantastic and your roommate can go suck a barbed cock.

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


electricgoat posted:

Many thanks to SaNChEzZ, Battle Pigeon, and LITERALLY A BIRD for your input. My problem is that my roommate keeps saying that he's been researching birds for over a year, so he knows, and what do I know about birds? And honestly, I don't know anything about birds, so I second guess myself. Like, things instinctively feel wrong, and I don't know if I'm misunderstanding Bird's signals based on my own horror at my roommate's actions, or if what he's doing is actually wrong.

He clearly hasn't been, every time you update with something he's been doing it's like reading examples of What Not To Do With Your New Bird. Researching probably means watching cute youtube videos. You're doing fine, what he is doing is wrong, and just trying to think about things from the perspective of a tiny prey creature will go a long way.

If you're worried about the bell thing (he sounds too dense to notice), you could frame it as a "Hey look... wait a minute, let me try something", go over and jingle it, then make a big show about how she seems to like it when you (gently!!) ring the bell for her and how happy she seems about it. Maybe then he'd start doing it... though there's also the risk she'll just find him doing it frightening.

Honestly he's messed things up and the way he's going, things aren't going to work out between that bird and him.

AvianPundit
Feb 14, 2013

Lollercide
There's a meme in here somewhere.



My husband makes stupid fart noises with the 'tiels. They basically stick their tongues out and make these really high pitched raspberries in response to my husband's raspberries. But whenever I try getting a video, they stare at my phone like :catstare: and do nothing.

Anyway, last night, my husband actually ripped rear end really loudly. Horace responded with a fart noise of his own. It was hilarious.

...I think Jasper is related to Chester A. Arthur.

AvianPundit fucked around with this message at 17:35 on May 4, 2013

Official Bizness
Dec 4, 2007

wark wark wark



:siren: WE HAVE BED BUGS OH GOD :siren:

Exterminator is coming on Monday. Obviously, the birds can't be here, but what about after they've treated the apartment? How long should I keep them out of it? Their room has one piece of furniture that I'm going to shove out into the living room, but the rest is hardwood flooring. oh god this is not how I wanted my day to go :gonk:

AvianPundit
Feb 14, 2013

Lollercide
Not sure if the 'tiels are trolled by the move on Tuesday and the new apartment, or if it's like a juvenile molt phase, but they're preening. A LOT. And pulling feathers. Especially Jasper.

Which anti-pluck spray works on cockatiels?

Chicken in Black
May 22, 2005

So lovely

SaNChEzZ posted:


This makes me feel better, a ray of hope piercing through moulted feathers and festering wounds! (They're not festering, but they hurt like poo poo for about a week)

When Ritz has subsided from a bundle of vampiric rage and is on the friendly side again I would suggest working with him and heavy leather gloves. Really anyone with biters or birds in general could try it, since it makes life so much better for everyone involved provided that gloves aren't associated with being grabbed, hurt, scared.

Having leather toys in the cage makes things go a bit smoother on this, too, since that makes the look and feel of the leather somewhat more familiar. With Goldy we left the gloves out where he could see them on a table or chair, and wore them on occasion when we were doing stuff near him so that he was used to seeing them. The next step was wearing them to open his cage and offer him to step up and come out, it took a few tries until he decided that the gloves were ok to get on. We wore them for his baths, cuddles, all the fun stuff so he is used to being handled with them, stepping on them, and biting them. Sometimes we put rolled socks or towels on our hands and fingers too so that if we needed to use them in a pinch he wouldn't be scared of them either. We would also do the Michael Jackson one glove wonder with him so he step up from glove to bare fingers in turn.

I'm glad we did the glove work, since when he is in angriest aratinga mode that we can work with him with a *reduced* risk of a serious bite. He can go through a leather glove if he really wants to, but it gives a lot more resistance than bare skin and after a few bites he normally gives up.

We're having my stepson work with Goldy and the gloves now. Goldy likes him but knows stepson is buffaloed and is scared of being bitten (since he's been bit badly a number of times) and we are hoping after a few trials of gloved interaction that we can proceed to gloveless...

Smoosh the bird!

Don't worry, he was making his happy noises while being smooshed, and then followed with a loud "STEP UP!"

_____________________________________________________

VVVVVVV

Yah, you need to use common sense on what kind of glove to use, so I suppose I should modify it and say use your noodle for glove type. Then again, so many people seem to lack common sense, or any sense at all.

Chicken in Black fucked around with this message at 20:26 on May 4, 2013

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


Official Bizness posted:

:siren: WE HAVE BED BUGS OH GOD :siren:

Exterminator is coming on Monday. Obviously, the birds can't be here, but what about after they've treated the apartment? How long should I keep them out of it? Their room has one piece of furniture that I'm going to shove out into the living room, but the rest is hardwood flooring. oh god this is not how I wanted my day to go :gonk:

Are you able to call and ask an avian vet for advice? I'm paranoid so I'd probably board the birds for a few days at least and keep all the windows open for as long as possible over that time.


AvianPundit posted:

Not sure if the 'tiels are trolled by the move on Tuesday and the new apartment, or if it's like a juvenile molt phase, but they're preening. A LOT. And pulling feathers. Especially Jasper.

Which anti-pluck spray works on cockatiels?

Sprays don't generally work, sometimes they can make things worse as the bird preens more to compensate for being sprayed. Are you sure they aren't just molting? When Steve, my cockatiel, molts there are feathers EVERYWHERE. He'll puff up and shake and multiple feathers will fall out from the shaking (seven was the highest I counted). Do they actually have any bald patches on them?

KillerChicken posted:

When Ritz has subsided from a bundle of vampiric rage and is on the friendly side again I would suggest working with him and heavy leather gloves. Really anyone with biters or birds in general could try it, since it makes life so much better for everyone involved provided that gloves aren't associated with being grabbed, hurt, scared.

Steve's original owners used thick, heavy gardening gloves to hold and handle him. For a cockatiel. They were frightened of him biting. When we went to pick him up, and had to put him in the box, they told us to wait then pulled out these ridiculous giant gloves to catch him with. We just kind of stared, then my partner reached over and grabbed Steve bare handed and put him straight in the box. They were amazed. :v:

Battle Pigeon fucked around with this message at 18:56 on May 4, 2013

AvianPundit
Feb 14, 2013

Lollercide
No visible bald spots. They seem to be preening mostly under their wings, actually, like at the joint. Jasper will pull out a feather from there and hold it in his beak for a minute while he stretches.

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost

Official Bizness posted:

:siren: WE HAVE BED BUGS OH GOD :siren:

Exterminator is coming on Monday. Obviously, the birds can't be here, but what about after they've treated the apartment? How long should I keep them out of it? Their room has one piece of furniture that I'm going to shove out into the living room, but the rest is hardwood flooring. oh god this is not how I wanted my day to go :gonk:
Ask the exterminator to be sure, but most reputable ones I know don't even use pesticides that I can remember. Bed bugs have become resistant to just about everything, so the only solution is heat treatment. I know pyrethroids don't work anymore.

Obviously check with them to be sure, but you may have nothing to worry about.

Source: all my entomologist friends, one of whom studies bedbugs specifically. There's maybe one pesticide that works, and it's really hard to get because they don't want them resistant to that too. The only caveat is there are lots of uninformed people that may still spray, so you'll want to check.

AvianPundit
Feb 14, 2013

Lollercide

Official Bizness posted:

:siren: WE HAVE BED BUGS OH GOD :siren:

Exterminator is coming on Monday. Obviously, the birds can't be here, but what about after they've treated the apartment? How long should I keep them out of it? Their room has one piece of furniture that I'm going to shove out into the living room, but the rest is hardwood flooring. oh god this is not how I wanted my day to go :gonk:

I don't know how long you should keep the birds out, but you're probably looking at getting a new mattress and linens. Also, have all your clothes professionally cleaned for bedbugs. It's pricy but you don't want even a slim chance of any surviving.

electricgoat
Aug 17, 2009
I lucked out! My roommate had 5 hours of work today, so I got 5 hours of Bird time! She is pretty amusing, and she seems to have a super specific routine. When she wakes up, she is grumpy. She will chirp for you to come over, but she wants nothing to do with you but also doesn't want you to leave. She's just cranky and doesn't really know what she wants, which is pretty much how I feel in the morning. ;) Then she eats for a bit, and then she wants to chirp and click while being spoken and sung to. Then it's playtime! She did tonnes of exploring around her cage today, and discovered that she has a second bell to shake and kill! She seems quite thrilled and switches between the two bells. After about an hour of playtime, she wants to just sit there and click and stare at me while I sing to her. Then she starts getting sleepy and wants me to keep singing to her and telling her she's a pretty bird, and she gets mad if I leave before she's completely asleep. And then she wakes up like 20 minutes later, chirps to summon the small human, and then starts all over again. It seems that this is like her routine every 2 hours. She just goes totally through the full cycle again and again, about every 2 hours. Is this normal/ok? It's certainly adorable!

I also tried leaving her cage open while we visited a couple times. The first time I opened it, she freaked out and flew to the back of her cage. I guess she's associated the cage being open with the terrible hand coming to steal her. :( She looked so scared and I felt awful, but I kept just talking/singing to her, and she calmed down and continued about her bird business. On subsequent cage openings, she didn't care at all, so hopefully she will realize that the cage being open doesn't have to be scary. I think she has definitely figured out that I will not touch her unless she touches me (I stick my fingers through the bars and she uses them to climb from perch to perch, but I haven't tried to touch her).

At one point, I went off to do the dishes, and she let out her "summoning human" chirp, so I came over, and she looked at me, opened her mouth super wide, and then, with her mouth open the whole time, stared at her bell, and raced up her perch to attack it. It was so cute seeing her scrambling up the perch with her mouth open! She looked like a tiny dinosaur! :)

Malalol: I clearly need to watch Finding Nemo. And I really think he'll give Bird away to someone else, rather than abandonning her. I'm out of leads for a new home for her, though.

SaNChEzZ: Thanks, so much advice in your post. I had no idea cockatiels were desert birds! I'll encourage him to keep trying the bird gym, but she hates it and tries to fly away when he puts her on it (presumably because he keeps trying to touch her while she's on it). It's also good to know that the floor is a very bad place. I guess that's part of why she just looks so terrified there. :( It also explains why her favourite perch (and sleeping perch) is the highest one! I'm used to dogs, so I assumed it was some sort of dominance thing, haha!

Battle Pigeon: Interestingly, my boyfriend told me he thought he found the youtube video my roommate must've watched to "learn" about birds. He didn't send me the link, but the woman in it was talking about the importance of feeding a bird a seed-based diet and other such nonsense. Good advice with the bell thing! I try to avoid being in the room while he's with the bird because it horrifies me, but I will make a point of doing that! I hope he isn't messing her up to the point that she'll be forever traumatized. Like, I'm still really hopefuly he'll give her away to a good home, and I want her to be able to adjust nicely to her new people there.

Official Bizness: Good luck with the bedbugs. Oh god!! :(

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

DarkHorse posted:

Ask the exterminator to be sure, but most reputable ones I know don't even use pesticides that I can remember. Bed bugs have become resistant to just about everything, so the only solution is heat treatment. I know pyrethroids don't work anymore.

Obviously check with them to be sure, but you may have nothing to worry about.

Source: all my entomologist friends, one of whom studies bedbugs specifically. There's maybe one pesticide that works, and it's really hard to get because they don't want them resistant to that too. The only caveat is there are lots of uninformed people that may still spray, so you'll want to check.

FWIW we had bed bugs at my house last year and the spray cleared them out. The exterminator did come out and spray once a week for four weeks though, to catch any eggs hatching that were already laid. He basically sprayed along the baseboards in all the rooms, and around the beds, the idea being that anything that came out to feed would have to walk through the poison. Worked far better than diatomecious earth, after 2 weeks we didn't notice any bugs and it's been about a year now with nothing in the house.

This is in SouthDakota, so I don't know how resistant the bed bugs here are, and I don't remember what exactly they were spraying with (I suppose it's likely that it's whatever that one pesticide that works is). Hopefully you caught them early and called the exterminator right away, that helps a ton.

Completely unrelated but someone linked me this video while I was typing this post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpDwlt_zAM8

Pile of Kittens
Apr 23, 2005

Why does everything STILL smell like pussy?

electricgoat posted:


Malalol: I clearly need to watch Finding Nemo. And I really think he'll give Bird away to someone else, rather than abandonning her. I'm out of leads for a new home for her, though.

I mean, we all know it's going to be you at this point. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.

electricgoat
Aug 17, 2009

Pile of Kittens posted:

I mean, we all know it's going to be you at this point. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.

It can't be me. Unfortunately, I do very much love this bird, but I don't really have the time to spend with her. I'm gone over 10 hours a day every weekday, which doesn't leave for much bird time. Though I could probably afford to feed her, the vet bills would be too much. I also don't have a way to transport her to the vet. I'd like to place her in a loving home that's familiar with bird care. That would really be what's best for her. In addition, I just don't think it would be a good idea to have a bird even in the same home as my roommate. He currently has her on the floor with his body surrounding her, again. :(

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


electricgoat posted:

I guess that's part of why she just looks so terrified there. :( It also explains why her favourite perch (and sleeping perch) is the highest one! I'm used to dogs, so I assumed it was some sort of dominance thing, haha!

Yeah, most birds will sleep on the highest perch, it's one reason why you shouldn't put, say, a concrete perch as the highest one. Dominance isn't really a thing with dogs either, btw.

Since he's an idiot, maybe you could appeal to him for example by linking him to this totally cute and interesting parrotlet video you just so happened to see on youtube while browsing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12QJja28kbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hLjnRvZmQU

Or "oh look, a forum where people post about their parrotlets and post photos, they're really cute, you should share pictures of Bird too since she's so adorable" or whatever would appeal to him to make him look: http://forums.avianavenue.com/parrotlets-place/

Then just hope he takes in things that way, since talking directly to him isn't working.

Karma Comedian
Feb 2, 2012

Five hours of bird time and no pictures? :catbert:

Pip pip pip
Oct 24, 2010

The cutest little fascist

Bird photo dump time! A couple friends and I went down to Project Perry for their open house today to see all the birds! Their rescue set up is really nice. They have a bunch of very large outdoor aviaries set up for the birds, and they are all flighted and get to hang out with other birds all the time :3: They have a couple more aviaries in the process of being built too.


This guy was such a little ham. He kept flying up to the grating closest to me and telling me "pretty bird" :3:


This one was also super interested in my friend and me. He kept putting his head down for pettings through the bars but we thought it best not to stick our fingers in.


Bonded pair of Amazons just chillaxin' :cool:

I took a bunch more crappy pics with my cell phone that are here: http://imgur.com/a/YM0V0

Not really sure on all the bird species, but it was really cool and the facilities were super nice :3: It's a shame it was over a 2 hour drive for us to get there though :sigh: It would have been super cool to volunteer there but with the distance it wouldn't be very doable for us :(

Official Bizness
Dec 4, 2007

wark wark wark



:siren: STILL HAVE BED BUGS OH GOD but :siren:

Exterminator will be using heat treatment (paid for by our landlord under state law, woo). On that same day, I'm sending my roomie out to have our clothes professionally cleaned and the birds will chill at my mother's in their travel cages. We pinpointed the entrance point and have only found fully grown adults and no shed nymph skins, so they haven't been breeding long. I could have poo poo myself in relief when I was told they'd use a heat treatment exclusively.

electricgoat
Aug 17, 2009
Wizard of Smart: I'm really bad at taking pictures, so all I have is one terrible one, but here it is! I think she was mad at me for taking a picture instead of shaking the bell, haha!



And yes, she shouldn't have mirrors, but my roommate says as long as they're small and not parrotlet-sized, it won't be an issue. I'm not sure I believe him, but there's not much I can do about it. She loves killing those pink things at the bottom of the bell (they look orange in the picture, but they're a very bright pink). She likes to hang upside down from the rope perch to get it, and sometimes she even hangs upside down from the mirrors to bite it! She is quite the gymnast!

Battle Pigeon: Oh poop, her second highest perch is concrete. It's for sure the one she spends the second most time on. It's the blue one in the picture. Is that a problem? And thanks for the suggestions! I'm thinking the forum might work. I had suggested to him to maybe find other bird owners in the city to talk to, or maybe find a group online, and he was like, "oh, is there something like that online?" I assumed he was playing dumb to get out of doing that, but maybe he genuinely didn't realize it. I will give that a go. Thanks!!

Tadhg Dall
Dec 5, 2008
Recently Oliver has been getting really over-excited during cuddle time and instead of just snuggling or giving kisses he puts his foot onto my face as if to say "Let me hold you down for cuddles!" He also does it to my budgie during "I love you so much let's puke in each others' mouths" time. While it's sort of cute to have him snuggle up against my face while holding my nose, it's not the most comfortable. Any ideas for how to discourage this? I don't want to discourage him from cuddling, but just moving his foot away over and over doesn't seem to be having much effect.

Ollie's also learned that the human body provides many comfortable snuggling spots:




Also birdie dinner :3::

Wozbo
Jul 5, 2010
My GCC dealing with new pellets
:derptiel:: What these arent my horrible petstore $5/ tonne shitbrand pellets! I shall not eat!
:): Well ok I'll just eat them (pretend om nom nom)
:derptiel:: GIVE ME THOSE PELLETS

mikerock
Oct 29, 2005

GCC chat:

Can't tell if Scout is saying "Love You" or "gently caress You"

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

mikerock posted:

GCC chat:

Can't tell if Scout is saying "Love You" or "gently caress You"

Ritz says "Hi baby" now, but the baby sounds like a squeegee being drawn over a chalkboard. Or a ghost whispering.

BeepBoopBatman
Apr 21, 2008
Hi guys, I'm hoping to get a bit of insight regarding my bonded 'tiel pair.

I have a four year old white-face female and a two year old pearl/pied male that are absolutely inseparable. They starting acting amorously the moment the weather warmed up, so we went ahead and set them up with a large nest box, extra cuttlebone/mineral block, fruits and veggies with their pellets (they already got these regularly, we just starting giving them more than usual) and a bit of nesting material. About three weeks ago they started mating frequently, and within a few days my female began the 'big momma shits as far from the nest box as possible' routine. Both she and the male spent day and night in that nest box, dragging stuff around, pecking at it, shredding the bedding, doing all the usual 'hey we're about to have a clutch' routine.

However... here we are, like I said almost three weeks later, no eggs. Now according to calculations, even if those first few matings didn't take, judging by when she started the massive pooing, she should be laying by now. My first big concern was that she's eggbound, however she's still eating and drinking regularly and pooping in a pretty normal schedule. After that... I just don't know. She's showing all the signs of being ready to lay without actually laying. I'm wondering if I'm jumping the gun and being impatient, or if something else is preventing her from actually doing this? We have an avian vet we're ready to take her to, of course, but if I'm just being panicky I really don't want to interrupt their routine with an unnecessary visit.

Other factors - they're in a very large cage in our bird room, opposite of an Indian ringneck, and down the wall from a Fischer's lovebird pair. They've never seemed bothered by these birds, but I wondered if being in an area with other animals may be part of the problem? Any advice or insight is appreciated!

AvianPundit
Feb 14, 2013

Lollercide

SaNChEzZ posted:

Ritz says "Hi baby" now, but the baby sounds like a squeegee being drawn over a chalkboard. Or a ghost whispering.

Jasper's "Good Bird" sounds like "goober".

Marshmallow Blue
Apr 25, 2010

Good to see you captured a full on Cockatiel Mustache! I've found them to be elusive on camera as the most outrageous ones occur during preening and once they see you're holding a black DSLR of Death they "Shave" it off pretty quick and put up the :derptiel:

AvianPundit
Feb 14, 2013

Lollercide
I'll just leave these here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_nh5xiMz3M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVH3eIVJgw0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBgJjMVKKRk

Jasper rocked out to Dropkick Murphy's earlier today! :derptiel:

On another note, Jasper doesn't seem to like his ankle bracelet. He's been chewing at it for a while. How do I go about removing that without harming the bird?

AvianPundit fucked around with this message at 04:56 on May 7, 2013

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

AvianPundit posted:

I'll just leave these here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_nh5xiMz3M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVH3eIVJgw0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBgJjMVKKRk

Jasper rocked out to Dropkick Murphy's earlier today! :derptiel:

On another note, Jasper doesn't seem to like his ankle bracelet. He's been chewing at it for a while. How do I go about removing that without harming the bird?

My too is pretty good at actually dancing to a beat as well. Like, if I beatbox/tap a rhythm, he'll generally sync up to the beat, and if I dance with him he is pretty good at getting the rhythm for most techno songs I play for him. That sulphur-crested 'too has dubstep down perfectly, though.

Also just make him deal with it. He will get bored eventually. As long as he's not hurting himself, it's a phase every ankle banded bird goes through. It's probably not even a real dislike, more like it's something new to try and break and a minor inconvenience that he's fixating on because of its newness.

AvianPundit
Feb 14, 2013

Lollercide

Eejit posted:

My too is pretty good at actually dancing to a beat as well. Like, if I beatbox/tap a rhythm, he'll generally sync up to the beat, and if I dance with him he is pretty good at getting the rhythm for most techno songs I play for him. That sulphur-crested 'too has dubstep down perfectly, though.

Also just make him deal with it. He will get bored eventually. As long as he's not hurting himself, it's a phase every ankle banded bird goes through. It's probably not even a real dislike, more like it's something new to try and break and a minor inconvenience that he's fixating on because of its newness.

The 'too dances better than I do!

It's not new, it was there when we got them a month and a half ago, and Jasper only recently started beaking at it. He's a juvenile so maybe he's growing and it's gotten a little too small? It doesn't look tight though. We'll keep an eye on it.

The band is just to show that the bird is 'Murican. (And oh god, my hubby is trying to make them say "Ooh-rah".)

AvianPundit fucked around with this message at 16:05 on May 7, 2013

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


Ohtori after a shower the other day:







It's clearest in the second one, you can see he has two colours in his eyes. I wonder if they'll keep getting lighter (or at least, if the darker ring will), or if that's it now he's basically reached adulthood.

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

Battle Pigeon posted:

Ohtori after a shower the other day:







It's clearest in the second one, you can see he has two colours in his eyes. I wonder if they'll keep getting lighter (or at least, if the darker ring will), or if that's it now he's basically reached adulthood.

He really is a striking bird, even when unceremoniously wet.

Bioshuffle
Feb 10, 2011

No good deed goes unpunished

Last night, my lovebirds started screaming bloody murder around 3am. At first I thought I was dreaming, but as soon as I realized what was going on, I ran to the room where I keep them and uncovered their cage. Nothing seemed to be out of the ordinary. I keep them in a dark room that I don't even enter once I put them to sleep. When I turned out the lights and covered their cage again, they continued the screaming again. I left a thing of millet spray in their cage and thankfully, they went back to sleep.

I have no idea what the hell could have caused them to panic like that, but my apartment is next to a hallway that gets a lot of drunk people running through late at night. My neighbors made a noise complaint (not to the cops just to me) in the morning. I'm trying to figure out what I can do, but I'm drawing blanks. I've separated them for the time being to see if it helps, but if that doesn't work, what else can I do? I've already clipped their wings, and they get plenty of toys and outside time. I know birds are supposed to be loud, but they start screaming bloody murder at the slightest provocation, and it's driving me and my neighbors insane. I may have to start looking for a new home for them if they keep this up. :(

Bioshuffle fucked around with this message at 00:21 on May 8, 2013

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Bioshuffle posted:

Last night, my lovebirds started screaming bloody murder around 3am. At first I thought I was dreaming, but as soon as I realized what was going on, I ran to the room where I keep them and uncovered their cage. Nothing seemed to be out of the ordinary. I keep them in a dark room that I don't even enter once I put them to sleep. When I turned out the lights and covered their cage again, they continued the screaming again. I left a thing of millet spray in their cage and thankfully, they went back to sleep.

I have no idea what the hell could have caused them to panic like that, but my apartment is next to a hallway that gets a lot of drunk people running through late at night. My neighbors made a noise complaint (not to the cops just to me) in the morning. I'm trying to figure out what I can do, but I'm drawing blanks. I've separated them for the time being to see if it helps, but if that doesn't work, what else can I do? I've already clipped their wings, and they get plenty of toys and outside time. I know birds are supposed to be loud, but they start screaming bloody murder at the slightest provocation, and it's driving me and my neighbors insane. I may have to start looking for a new home for them if they keep this up. :(

Birds have night terrors, could have been one of them had one and set the other off?

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Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


Bioshuffle posted:

Last night, my lovebirds started screaming bloody murder around 3am. At first I thought I was dreaming, but as soon as I realized what was going on, I ran to the room where I keep them and uncovered their cage. Nothing seemed to be out of the ordinary. I keep them in a dark room that I don't even enter once I put them to sleep. Even after I turned out the lights and covered their cage, they continued the screaming again. I left a thing of millet spray in their cage and thankfully, they went back to sleep.

I have no idea what the hell could have caused them to panic like that, but my apartment is next to a hallway that gets a lot of drunk people running through late at night. My neighbors made a noise complaint (not to the cops just to me) in the morning. I'm trying to figure out what I can do, but I'm drawing blanks. I've separated them for the time being to see if it helps, but if that doesn't work, what else can I do? I've already clipped their wings, and they get plenty of toys and outside time. I know birds are supposed to be loud, but they start screaming bloody murder at the slightest provocation, and it's driving me and my neighbors insane. I may have to start looking for a new home for them if they keep this up. :(

Possible that something spooked them but it's also possible it was just a night terror. One bird has a really bad dream and freaks the gently caress out, this freaks out all the other birds and they start thrashing and getting upset. Best thing you can do in that case is go in, turn on the light, calm them down, show them nothing is wrong, and put them back to bed. Cockatiels are particularly prone to it but I've only had one or two in the years with my birds.

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