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loving insanity wearing the mask of democracy that is. I love it.
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Friendly Humour posted:So candidates can just run under any name they want is the gist of this? I'm still amazed by all this. Post more of these Nicknames are very common in Brazil. Lula is not Lula's actual name, but his nickname before he incorporated it into his name. Another part of this is that Brazil is a purely proportional legislative elections system. So any time someone is voting for someone in the legislature, they will have literally hundreds of choices at once. In a winner takes all district election, there will be enough time for people to learn about the few candidates. In a proportional one, if you are, say, a union leader who people know by a nickname, you better make sure that that nickname is listed in the roll of candidates. Not to mention a side-effect of the proportional elections: you only need a few percent to be elected. You get 3% of the population to vote for "Stallone" as a joke and suddenly he is elected.
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Aug 28, 2016 06:53
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so a bunch miners in bolivia lynched a minister?
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Mans posted:so a bunch miners in bolivia lynched a minister? This is the kind of hands-on political engagement we need in this country. I'll keep you posted on the topic of bizarre Brazilian candidates, don't worry. it's pretty much a national tradition to make fun of that poo poo on the Internet, so content shouldn't be a concern, hehe. https://twitter.com/danieltuita/status/769710365395525636 So...this is the janitor that worked on the triplex Lula supposedly owns. Running under the name...Afonso, janitor of the triplex. Amazing. The best part of Brazil is the Brazilian. Dias fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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Aug 28, 2016 10:32
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Dias posted:https://twitter.com/William_Castro/status/769312207473631233 Hold on. So in Brazil, La Chilindrina is called "Chiquinha"? I'm sorry, that's just barbaric.
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Aug 28, 2016 23:29
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SexyBlindfold posted:Hold on. IIRC in the early episodes she's called "Francisquinha". I don't know what's up with that, I ask some chavologist to explain this to me.
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Aug 29, 2016 00:33
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Brazilwashing of Mexican pop culture was rampant in the 80s and 90s.
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Aug 29, 2016 00:54
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It's a lovely morning in southern Brazil, overcast and rainy, and we're starting the last leg of the seemingly-inevitable-even-though-it-still-makes-little-sense-from-a-legal-standpoint impeachment process. Dope.
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Aug 29, 2016 14:37
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tangential rant: southern brazil is weird and it's most definitely due to a race thing source: me reading Gazeta do Povo 15 years ago with people complaining about how girls aren't pretty as they used to be because of all the immigrants (ruining the gene pool I guess?)
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Aug 29, 2016 15:38
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Symbolic Butt posted:tangential rant: southern brazil is weird and it's most definitely due to a race thing Lots of Italian and German immigrants, which leads to a lot of explicit racism instead of Brazil's standard brand of internalized "she's almost family" racism. Also in Rio Grande do Sul's case, having a different colonization process and cultural influences makes people think they're special flowers and - again, because of the European immigrants - better than the lazy, samba-dancing, beach-loving rest of the country. We're basically Texas, in case an American is reading this.
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Aug 29, 2016 15:48
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It's funny especially because we're all descended from poor as gently caress Europeans, mixed with black in most cases, when some dream about being nobility or even royalty. gently caress my rear end.
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Aug 29, 2016 17:17
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Negrostrike posted:It's funny especially because we're all descended from poor as gently caress Europeans, mixed with black in most cases, when some dream about being nobility or even royalty. gently caress my rear end. Weren't the earliest settlers of the south mercenaries from central/east Europe hired by Dom Pedro to fight the Portuguese during our "independence" and paid with lands because he had no money to give them or was that pseudo-history I was told?
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Aug 29, 2016 17:28
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Maybe RS should come back home so we could form a super (racist) nation?
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Aug 29, 2016 18:57
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ZearothK posted:Weren't the earliest settlers of the south mercenaries from central/east Europe hired by Dom Pedro to fight the Portuguese during our "independence" and paid with lands because he had no money to give them or was that pseudo-history I was told? If that's true I never came across that info. What I know about European settlements here is this: Southern Brazil was kind of an empty place (bunch of Natives getting converted by the Jesuits, since technically we were Spanish territory, and a ton of African slaves), then independence happened, the Crown wanted people to colonize the place because gently caress them Indians and Blacks, and the Germans seemed like good white people for the job. So they "sponsored" those immigrants, half-assed it, Germans started getting kinda iffy on the deal so they found new suckers. I mean, Italians. They ended up forming this tightly knit middle-class, which explains a lot of the regionalism. Also we got another fuckton of German immigrants during those little things called World Wars... Polidoro posted:Maybe RS should come back home so we could form a super (racist) nation? We're broke as gently caress and austerity policies are everywhere as is, at least we'd get legal weed so yeah why not
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So a guy (who I'm pretty sure is a goon) did some sleuthing and exposed a famous "Motivational Entrepreneur" hack, after she actually tried to kickstart a business and failed miserably. Brazilian internet is going apeshit over this on both sides, which is hilarious. It also surprises me that it took that long, considering I looked into her stuff and figured she was a hack in like 5 minutes years ago. In portuguese only, sorry: https://medium.com/@izzynobre_24233...7844#.asjq4rgub
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Aug 29, 2016 21:59
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nerdz posted:So a guy (who I'm pretty sure is a goon) Creepy stalking? Yeah, sounds like a goon.
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Aug 29, 2016 22:41
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Symbolic Butt posted:Creepy stalking? Yeah, sounds like a goon. Stalking? She's a very famous public figure who's in the spotlight right now. What's weird is how far she got without people checking any of the things she said she did. I don't know if you can read portuguese, but the things she said she did was found a company that was sold for millions (she did not), that she worked at google and microsoft (internship programs) among other things. She now sells books and makes motivational speeches. Forgot to mention: the blunder that she committed was basically the equivalent of Doobie's Doghouse (opening an hamburger restaurant with kickstarter money), except that she was forced to cancel it one day after due to the intense criticism. nerdz fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Aug 29, 2016 |
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Aug 29, 2016 22:55
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nerdz posted:Stalking? She's a very famous public figure who's in the spotlight right now. What's weird is how far she got without people checking any of the things she said she did. I don't know if you can read portuguese, but the things she said she did was found a company that was sold for millions (she did not), that she worked at google and microsoft (internship programs) among other things. She now sells books and makes motivational speeches. Eh, I only read the start, this dude's obvious hateboner for her kinda made me lose interest for what's this about. also lol at a brazilian dissing "millenials"
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Aug 29, 2016 23:04
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Dias posted:Lots of Italian and German immigrants, which leads to a lot of explicit racism instead of Brazil's standard brand of internalized "she's almost family" racism. Also in Rio Grande do Sul's case, having a different colonization process and cultural influences makes people think they're special flowers and - again, because of the European immigrants - better than the lazy, samba-dancing, beach-loving rest of the country. Yeah but isn't São Paulo full of italian immigrants? I never felt this kind of obvious racism there. I guess the south only got immigrants more recently compared to São Paulo. 
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I don't exactly care about her but I'm relishing on the schadenfreude of having a hack being called out on their bullshit, especially when all the info is public domain. Best part of it is that he mentioned that her work in a project at Microsoft could be bogus because there was zero mention of her anywhere. Then literally one hour later someone edited the article to include her work in it (very minor work but still). She depends on her followers lack of knowledge about the US and Silicon Valley to project herself as a successful person and lives off that. It's not like these type of people are new or this will make them go away but it's funny. On the southern Brazil thing: it is EXTREMELY hosed up, especially in all the small towns. I have a friend that lived in Videira/SC and holy poo poo, the stories. The number of people who just had the notion that whites are superior as a natural thing and mistreated my friend were absurd, to the point of saying "you don't belong here, leave" and assuming she was the nanny of her children because they had green eyes from the father. She isn't even black, just a standard Brazilian latino. Turbo racism is the norm in the more isolated small towns.
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Aug 29, 2016 23:18
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I still can't get my head around such a name as Zebeléo. What made them think this was a good idea?
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Aug 29, 2016 23:41
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Negrostrike posted:I still can't get my head around such a name as Zebeléo. What made them think this was a good idea? The idea comes from a Thought Leader that's ranked above Nelson Mandela and even the surveyed people's parents 
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The Bel Pesce fiasco (one way or the other, because at best she is the legit MIT graduate/ silicon valley intern she claims she is who turned motivational speaker instead of actually creating anything) is a pretty good illustration of the mutt complex Brazilians have, especially in the upper classes. From Bossa Nova to Bebel Gilberto to Robert Rey to Paulo Coelho , anything or anyone with minimal international success becomes a hit in Brazil. Becoming a self-help sensation off the back of a google/microsoft internship and an MIT degree (which is what she claims is true) is incredible. It's like in academia where Brazilian non-academics are more impressed with someone serving as a TA for a semester or two in an international university than with someone with legit research and accomplishments. I once read the profile of someone elected to be president of a federal university, and the leading accomplishment mentioned was being a TA while getting their degree at an Ivy, not the dozens of books in Portuguese or long time service to the university.
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Aug 30, 2016 00:12
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So why are Brazilian Birth Rates stagnating? You'd think that for a country that isn't that rich there would be people making lots of babies.
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Aug 30, 2016 00:27
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Aug 30, 2016 00:30
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punk rebel ecks posted:So why are Brazilian Birth Rates stagnating? You'd think that for a country that isn't that rich there would be people making lots of babies. It's "not that rich" but significantly better off than it used to be one generation ago. 
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Aug 30, 2016 00:35
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nerdz posted:The idea comes from a Thought Leader that's ranked above Nelson Mandela and even the surveyed people's parents FHC being 8th place is the real appalling thing there.
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Aug 30, 2016 00:57
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nerdz posted:The idea comes from a Thought Leader that's ranked above Nelson Mandela and even the surveyed people's parents That's the funniest thing I've seen all year, like the whole list.
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Aug 30, 2016 01:05
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ZearothK posted:That's the funniest thing I've seen all year, like the whole list. No kidding. A scam artist TC owner, a deceased racecar driver, cranky volleyball coach. All world leaders. Is there a source for this?
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Aug 30, 2016 02:21
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these guys: http://www.ciadetalentos.com.br/esj/pesquisa.html here are some old results:   young people are dumb.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:33
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I have no idea who a lot of these people are but I agree that Obama is pretty cool I think this is a very universal thing about brazilians in general, everybody loves Obama. edit: wait obama fell to 5th, what happened to my man?!?
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Aug 30, 2016 02:41
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they love obama but hate anyone with similar policies in brazil
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Aug 30, 2016 02:47
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nerdz posted:they love obama but hate anyone with similar policies in brazil Obama isn't left wing. But I don't know what qualifies as "right wing" in Brazil.
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Aug 30, 2016 02:57
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The impressive part is that the people that voted on these polls love Silicon Valley entrepeneurship,Libertariarian ideas and anarcho-capitalism;idolize the US but theres no mention of Ron or Rand Paul anywhere
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Aug 31, 2016 03:05
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Lucy_Cominato posted:The impressive part is that the people that voted on these polls love Silicon Valley entrepeneurship,Libertariarian ideas and anarcho-capitalism;idolize the US but theres no mention of Ron or Rand Paul anywhere Gonna guess it's cause like no one gives a poo poo about the Paul family outside of very few internet circles.
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Aug 31, 2016 03:16
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South Americans are "Folclorico" and will believe in anyone from their country that is famous world wide or in America or good at some activity like a national hero. They are very American in that way.
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Aug 31, 2016 03:22
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Thats not American at all though, no American cares if someone is famous somewhere else, especially not as a positive thing
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Aug 31, 2016 04:34
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Rest in peace Juan Gabriel.
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Aug 31, 2016 16:08
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GlyphGryph posted:Thats not American at all though, no American cares if someone is famous somewhere else, especially not as a positive thing We just had a couple of weeks that are basically an excuse for Americans to go "heck yeah Americans are the best". The international recognition part of it I'll give you, tho let's be fair, it's because America only gives a gently caress about what America thinks, especially now with the commies dead and buried. Talking bout commies, Brazil is finally getting rid of its socialist menace, yeah! God, my generation is hosed, isn't it?
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But there is definitely this process in Brazil in specific, but to some degree in the rest of Latin America too, of the local elites being absolutely obsessed with international recognition. Paulo Coelho is a good example of this. He was a random pop fiction writer, with a similar standing to other pop fiction writers like Roberto Drummond, until he received international recognition. At that point, he became a member of the ABL and all that. It is so well established that record companies now explicitly base their strategies around this. Bebel Gilberto and Maria Rita were intentionally marketed internationally first so that they could be sold in Brazil as international sensations.
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