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StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

kznlol posted:

What would this thread say to someone who inhaled the Foreigner series and said "alright, more of that, but this time with more guns"

Read the Aubrey-Maturin series, starting with Master and Commander and skipping Post-Captain.

It's not quite the same but has a similar absorbing texture that feels familiar and good to read.

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Kerbtree
Sep 8, 2008

BAD FALCON!
LAZY!

Kesper North posted:

No, that's the Kameron Hurley series where bugs form the basis of all technology (and also food) on some ghastly colony world wracked by an endless series of horrible religious wars (using bug weapons).

Honestly got bored of both the very slow-feeling plot development and the overabundance of bug-related technology, but I should try and pick it up again at some point.

There's a Lexx novelisation? :unsmigghh:

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

StrixNebulosa posted:

Read the Aubrey-Maturin series, starting with Master and Commander and skipping Post-Captain.

It's not quite the same but has a similar absorbing texture that feels familiar and good to read.

Don't skip any of them you dummies.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
Technically The Flintstones would be considered "biopunk" because they use dinosaurs for everything.

hannibal
Jul 27, 2001

[img-planes]

withak posted:

Don't skip any of them you dummies.

Indeed. Post-Captain does drag down in parts but it picks right back up in HMS Surprise. I'm on my 3rd re-read of the entire series right now.

(come join us)

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Kerbtree posted:

There's a Lexx novelisation? :unsmigghh:

The dead do not have novelizations.

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

Speaking of Military Sci-Fi RIP Jerry Pournelle, http://www.sfwa.org/2017/09/memoriam-jerry-pournelle/

I mean your politics we're kinda lovely, but you weren't a terrible author and I liked the books you did with Niven.

Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Sep 11, 2017

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

C.M. Kruger posted:

Technically The Flintstones would be considered "biopunk" because they use dinosaurs for everything.
Eh, it's a livin'.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
Hyperion is loving engrossing.

Obviously Silenus is the renegade insane ai and also working for the ousters and that's it that's the only thing I understand so far.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Just be prepared for the sequels to get gradually worse.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

anilEhilated posted:

Just be prepared for the sequels to get gradually worse.

If by gradually you mean precipitously

robotsinmyhead
Nov 29, 2005

Dude, they oughta call you Piledriver!

Clever Betty
Just finished The Traitor Baru Cormorant. What a brutal motherfucker of a book.

Bobiverse Book 3 showed up just in time. I'm sure I'll kill that before the week is up.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

If by gradually you mean precipitously
If by precipitously you mean exponentially

Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro
Hyperion ends so well that I've never felt the need to seek out the sequels.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

Rough Lobster posted:

Hyperion ends so well that I've never felt the need to seek out the sequels.

I just want the answers to everything so I looked up spoilers and they didn't really help. Oh well, Shrike owns. All hail the Shrike.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

papa horny michael posted:

Anyone looking for a fun fantasy book about humans who happen to be wizards, check out John Bellairs The Face in the Frost. Enjoying his writing so far.

John Bellairs was the poo poo. His young adult stuff is really pretty great which I guess was what he was known for, but Face in the Frost is worthwhile too.

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica

mdemone posted:

John Bellairs was the poo poo. His young adult stuff is really pretty great which I guess was what he was known for, but Face in the Frost is worthwhile too.

I forgot to say how Bellairs can write pretty chilling little horror stuff in the middle that makes me close all the shades around 1:00am.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

robotsinmyhead posted:

Bobiverse Book 3 showed up just in time. I'm sure I'll kill that before the week is up.

I was suuuuper disappointed in this book. I'm not sure why, but it just wasn't fun like the other two were.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Captain Monkey posted:

I was suuuuper disappointed in this book. I'm not sure why, but it just wasn't fun like the other two were.

I got fatigue from viewpoint whiplash and haven't finished it yet. I had to keep checking *which* loving clone was the focus of any given passage. I'll probably go back and finish it up in the next few weeks, but god drat.

Number Ten Cocks
Feb 25, 2016

by zen death robot

mdemone posted:

John Bellairs was the poo poo. His young adult stuff is really pretty great which I guess was what he was known for, but Face in the Frost is worthwhile too.

I think The Fresh Prince was his best work.

andrew smash
Jun 26, 2006

smooth soul

Nevvy Z posted:

Hyperion is loving engrossing.

Obviously Silenus is the renegade insane ai and also working for the ousters and that's it that's the only thing I understand so far.

somebody correct me if I'm wrong but silenus is not an AI

robotsinmyhead
Nov 29, 2005

Dude, they oughta call you Piledriver!

Clever Betty

Captain Monkey posted:

I was suuuuper disappointed in this book. I'm not sure why, but it just wasn't fun like the other two were.

Yeah, if I had a problem with the other 2, it was this. I wanted more of the exploration and weird science stuff that was so cool in the first book. I'm tired of the Deltans before book 2 ended.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



papa horny michael posted:

I forgot to say how Bellairs can write pretty chilling little horror stuff in the middle that makes me close all the shades around 1:00am.

I'm intrigued, where would you point someone new to Bellairs, if I'm looking to see good examples of this? Should I just grab The Face in the Frost and give that a whirl?

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

MockingQuantum posted:

I'm intrigued, where would you point someone new to Bellairs, if I'm looking to see good examples of this? Should I just grab The Face in the Frost and give that a whirl?

If you're new to Bellairs, try either The Face in the Frost or The House with a Clock in Its Walls. Or heck, both, since they're not too long.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

Proteus Jones posted:

I got fatigue from viewpoint whiplash and haven't finished it yet. I had to keep checking *which* loving clone was the focus of any given passage. I'll probably go back and finish it up in the next few weeks, but god drat.

Yeah, I felt luke he was skipping around at random almost, and he just keot switching so fast that I was hardly able to keep track.


robotsinmyhead posted:

Yeah, if I had a problem with the other 2, it was this. I wanted more of the exploration and weird science stuff that was so cool in the first book. I'm tired of the Deltans before book 2 ended.

You're gonna hate about 33% of this book then.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

andrew smash posted:

somebody correct me if I'm wrong but silenus is not an AI

Probably right. That was my 2/3rds through guess.


They just kept talking about the first poet ai who went insane and ran away and Silenus thinks he was raised on old earth and everyone says thats impossible and we know they made a new old earth.

andrew smash
Jun 26, 2006

smooth soul
Keep reading

Wolpertinger
Feb 16, 2011

Jack2142 posted:

Speaking of Military Sci-Fi RIP Jerry Pournelle, http://www.sfwa.org/2017/09/memoriam-jerry-pournelle/

I mean your politics we're kinda lovely, but you weren't a terrible author and I liked the books you did with Niven.

I never really read his books, since I remember reading a summary of the plot of Falkenberg's Legion and it was ridiculously disturbing - where the 'good guy' main characters massacred an entire stadium of unarmed protestors because the protestors had dangerous socialist ideas that if they were allowed to spread civilization would cease to exist from all the greedy poor people stealing everything for themselves. And then they decided to go and rebuild society imitating Sparta, of all things :psyduck:.

XBenedict
May 23, 2006

YOUR LIPS SAY 0, BUT YOUR EYES SAY 1.

Wolpertinger posted:

I never really read his books, since I remember reading a summary of the plot of Falkenberg's Legion and it was ridiculously disturbing - where the 'good guy' main characters massacred an entire stadium of unarmed protestors because the protestors had dangerous socialist ideas that if they were allowed to spread civilization would cease to exist from all the greedy poor people stealing everything for themselves. And then they decided to go and rebuild society imitating Sparta, of all things :psyduck:.

Guess I'll scratch that off the reading list. :catbert:

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Wolpertinger posted:

And then they decided to go and rebuild society imitating Sparta, of all things :psyduck:.

odd how every writer who wants to base a fictional society on Sparta cherrypicks the most ho-hum bits (citizen-soldiery, citizen boys training for war starting at the age of 7, as if every warrior elite from every society prior to like the 1500s didn't do that),

while ignoring the genuinely unique and interesting bits, such as the spartans' Really Goddamn Weird sex & gender constructs, laconism, or the bizarre hatred of boats sometimes attributed to them.

thucydides would be outraged!

PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Sep 13, 2017

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



PupsOfWar posted:


while ignoring the genuinely unique and interesting bits, such as the spartans' Really Goddamn Weird sex & gender constructs, laconism, or the bizarre hatred of boats sometimes attributed to them.

thucydides would be outraged!

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Stuporstar
May 5, 2008

Where do fists come from?

PupsOfWar posted:

odd how every writer who wants to base a fictional society on Sparta cherrypicks the most ho-hum bits (citizen-soldiery, citizen boys training for war starting at the age of 7, as if every warrior elite from every society prior to like the 1500s didn't do that),

while ignoring the genuinely unique and interesting bits, such as the spartans' Really Goddamn Weird sex & gender constructs, laconism, or the bizarre hatred of boats sometimes attributed to them.

thucydides would be outraged!

Don't forget their society being propped up by so many slaves, every other greek state went WTF, Sparta.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Stuporstar posted:

Don't forget their society being propped up by so many slaves, every other greek state went WTF, Sparta.

Or that they had a yearly thing called Krypteia where the nobility sent out their most promising sons to murder and terrorize the underclasses. Basically it was The Purge: BC.

team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

Megazver posted:

That's the gods in the metaphor, at least in Two Serpents Rise.

Nah, there's no exact analogue to Marxism. The Craft users in the books fill the role of communists as agents of societal change moving from one mode of production to another with Gerhardt being a very obvious Marx stand-in. However the societal change they're enacting in this type of god-powered world is basically from theocratic feudalism to unrestrained craft-powered Capitalism. What Tara and others are now trying to implement is something more akin to social democracy.

Verloc
Feb 15, 2001

Note to self: Posting 'lulz' is not a good idea.

C.M. Kruger posted:

Or that they had a yearly thing called Krypteia where the nobility sent out their most promising sons to murder and terrorize the underclasses. Basically it was The Purge: BC.
Just make sure that you're not caught by a senior member of the nobility while you're out purging! (You'll be whipped for being too un-stealthy and clumsy on your state sanctioned murder rampage.)

The Spartiate really were mindbogglingly colossal dicks to the helots.

Stuporstar
May 5, 2008

Where do fists come from?

Verloc posted:

Just make sure that you're not caught by a senior member of the nobility while you're out purging! (You'll be whipped for being too un-stealthy and clumsy on your state sanctioned murder rampage.)

The Spartiate really were mindbogglingly colossal dicks to the helots.

Yeah, basically it's no wonder why they're so beloved by cryto-fascists.

robotsinmyhead
Nov 29, 2005

Dude, they oughta call you Piledriver!

Clever Betty
Just finished All These Worlds - Bobiverse 3. Jumped around a lot, but that suits my lack of focus pretty well. The final fight was pretty good and I thought it wrapped up well. Book 1 was definitely my favorite, but that was a really fun trilogy.

Sibling of TB
Aug 4, 2007
I enjoyed the Bobiverse books but was bugged by how small suggest star systems were (scanned a whole system and found only 6 places to set up an autofactory) and by how they had ftl remote control but still insisted on flying bobs in person into battle. Also the lack of a coherent story arc, it seemed like the books just kept ending for no real reason.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
So have we moved from litRPG to lit4X?

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Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
LeGuin novella collection for Kindle on sale today. $3! This should be a fun read.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E4A32X8/ref=docs-os-doi_0

Includes:
-Vaster Than Empires and More Slow
-Buffalo Gals, Won't You Come Out Tonight
-Hernes
-The Matter of Seggri
-Another Story or a Fisherman of the Inland Sea
-Forgiveness Day
-A Man of the People
-A Woman's Liberation
-Old Music and the Slave Women
-The Finder
-On the High Marsh
-Dragonfly
-Paradises Lost

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