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Corsair Pool Boy posted:People in the minor regions were dealing with queues like that all the time when Blizz shifted the matchmaking to be only people within one of your rank. Fortunately they listened to the community and switched it back to how it was - they'd rather have rainbow games than wait 30+ minutes for each ranked game to pop.
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BrianBoitano posted:A) you were playing at 4 & 5 AM I don't care about why, even when I was in diamond 1 in league my queues were like 3 minutes at 4 am. It's really annoying to wait 30 minutes then have a leaver in your game
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Sep 8, 2018 18:17
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Currently sitting at 81.5% winrate with Mephisto after around 27 games I think. He's good Admittedly it's getting a bit harder to own with him now that people know how to juke his Lightning Nova but he can still loving destroy in teamfights if the enemy team positions poorly even for like 2 seconds
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Sep 8, 2018 18:21
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A bud and I queued up as morales and meph in qm, and we ended up with a tass and a zeratul. It was a non-stop stomp, even if they had the more traditionally "good" comp. I did stupid amounts of damage, and zeratul popped in to finish em. I know QM doesn't count, but still; we found that safeguard worked extremely well with the in and out playstyle of meph. Its going to be interesting to see any combos crystallise from this.
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Sep 8, 2018 20:35
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As that jerk that really likes to play Sgt. Hammer, Mephisto really ruins my day 
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Sep 8, 2018 20:45
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didn’t play for ten days, logged back in and played twice as Yrel. Two complete stomps. Yup, she’s still broken.
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Sep 8, 2018 21:10
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Forced myself to play Kel'thuzad to Level 5 since he's free. To say I sucked is an understatement, he must surely be the hardest hero in the game?
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Sep 9, 2018 16:41
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The only hero that is so reliant on all their abilities as a timed combo is Li-Ming with Wave of Force. And she can still be good if she never pulls her combo off. I don’t know if I’d consider KT the hardest, but I would definitely put him in a top 3. I almost hate how the spike has become baseline, because now I have no excuse not to learn it. So I guess I will never play him again! Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Sep 9, 2018 |
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Sep 9, 2018 17:39
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TLV and Abathur are surely harder to play. Probably Zagara and Zaratul. For Kelthuzad, just go to Try mode and learn his two combos, one with the ice spike and one with two enemies, and congrats you got him. Not sure if he's worth it after his recent rework though.
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Sep 9, 2018 17:45
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I hated playing Zeratul the most so I'm going to say he's the hardest. I don't find TLV and Aba very difficult, but you have to get used to playing in a different way.
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Sep 9, 2018 17:47
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New player, here. This is fun! But to be competitive, do I really need to learn all these character combinations and counters? It seems like it's a bit much.
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Sep 9, 2018 18:00
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Yeah dude
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Sep 9, 2018 18:02
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Accretionist posted:New player, here. This is fun! unless you HATE a hero, then don't play them to 5.
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Sep 9, 2018 18:03
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You’ll mostly pick it up as you go. No sense memorizing everything.
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Sep 9, 2018 18:05
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If that sort of familiarity just comes out of the woodwork, that doesn't sound bad. So far, I've just been mowing people down wtih Raynor and Illidan in quickmatches when my gaming buddies are on. It's like a cross between banging action figures together and a board game. Great execution on the concept.
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Sep 9, 2018 18:07
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Accretionist posted:New player, here. This is fun! If you care about climbing ranks or participating in any kind of organized league, then yes, you will need to be at least passingly familiar with every hero on the roster so you learn how to play around them. Not giving proper respect to how much damage/durability/crowd control the enemy team has is the #1 cause of loss at all levels of play.
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Sep 9, 2018 20:06
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It's not too complicated to learn all the heroes. First, you need to learn which heroes are which roles (bruiser, tank, healer, support, assassin, mage) and what each role does. Next, you need to play each hero to learn their strengths/weakness from your viewpoint. Here's an example: By playing Arthas, you'll learn he's different from most tanks and bruisers because he has no stun. Instead, he has two different abilities that root. You'll also notice his self sustain comes from self-casting his Q by holding Alt and pushing Q. Something you'll learn from playing him over the course of a few games is that Arthas is one of the best body blockers in the game. By walking along with an enemy hero instead of right clicking them, you can root or work with a teammate to stun the enemy hero and position yourself in front of the path the enemy hero wants to move. The enemy hero can't path through you so they have to walk around you. If you move in the right directions you can prevent the enemy player from moving forward towards their escape and secure a kill. After playing Arthas, you'll learn that to get around him you need to immediately separate yourself from melee range of Arthas to avoid getting slowed/rooted. Once Arthas casts W, if you can stay out of melee he's a sitting duck. When Arthas casts Army of the Damned you're probably not going to kill him so avoid focusing him until it's over. You'll also know Arthas has mana problems and you can engage hard on him when you see he's low on mana. Finally, you need to play with goons and ask for advice. You can read a guide on how to play Malthael but there's a good possibility that 1) it's outdated 2) there are important bits you might gloss over 3) the author is an idiot. You could also solo queue Medivh and not understand why your teammates are threatening to report you. By playing with goons, you can learn some practical advice on the context of what makes heroes good and why certain picks are bad. By doing these steps you'll eventually be able to recognize where teams are strong, where they're weak, and how you can take advantage of the situation through hero choices and talent picks. And remember to do "/join sagoons" to find people to play with to get that friend bonus XP so you don't have to play an entire 5 levels of heroes like Chen, Lost Vikings, or Murky.
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Sep 9, 2018 21:15
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Upsettingly good advice from jombo
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Up until literally the last word, yes
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Try every character but for playing ranked you should pick 3ish in each role and master them.
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Sep 10, 2018 01:46
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Hoo boy is it a reeeal bad idea to bring the Vikings against Mephisto; I'd almost suggest not even showing up to teamfights to avoid screwing your team over from having an extra 3 bodies for him to benefit from. Past 10 can get very dicey, depending on how aggressive you are with Baelrog and Eric.
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Sep 10, 2018 02:38
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TLV and Mephisto can work as long as you refuse to use Jump! for anything other than dodging his ult.
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Sep 10, 2018 03:23
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I think the problem is that Mephisto will get his abilities back roughly twice as fast if you have TLV near him.
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Sep 10, 2018 03:48
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Hardest hero to play is clone ult samuro and it's not even close. KTZ is easy to play once you quick cast everything and just assume you will always hit your combo and spam it all out at once. Vikings are also very easy play. I have, 75% win rate with vikings in 50 games of team league at diamond/Master MMR and I still suck with clone ult samuro.
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Sep 10, 2018 05:38
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Good Canadian Boy posted:Hardest hero to play is clone ult samuro and it's not even close. KTZ is easy to play once you quick cast everything and just assume you will always hit your combo and spam it all out at once. Tbf that is because vikings have been absurdly broken for years. I don't know if the recent nerfs helped or not. I was very bad at playing them and won almost every game I tried them previously, and that was in 3k master or so
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Sep 10, 2018 05:43
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Vikings are balanced by causing your team to throw 80% of the time
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69fVcOn_wQo&t=421s balanced hero
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Clone Samuro is moderately harder than Vikings. Much more fun to play since you have to manage the clones and their timers.
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I wish I could play this on US servers too. No one is playing on EU now. I went to play dota instead and got instant queue. In Dota you can also pick ingame in which region you want to play. It would be really great to be able to switch to some other region where you could actually find some players.
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I haven't looked at Samuro much. I took for granted that his clones were like Nova's decoys, are they actually controllable units that can do dmg etc more like TLV than Nova?
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kaesarsosei posted:I haven't looked at Samuro much. I took for granted that his clones were like Nova's decoys, are they actually controllable units that can do dmg etc more like TLV than Nova? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i4h_k7-euZQ
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Clone ult is undervalued. They do good damage, they tank forts and keeps, they scout and provide vision, they can be swapped to as an escape option, and you can do a triple /dance with one of the best dances in the game.
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My good friend is a Kerrigan player, and I used to slam pick Tyrande every game during preseason when she was OP. We have been crushing with Tyrande/Kerrigan and then the rest of our group goes waveclear (Jaina is the best for the combo) and main tank. We've been winning non-stop. Pre-rework we would play Diablo/Tyrande/Butcher, with double support which was good but situational. Now having Tyrande as a solo healer just makes the comp better overall. Tyrande seems amazing right now. I've been building for full AA and the healing output is insane. I can keep up in healing with Whitemane while also blowing people up. If you go for AA/hunters mark build you can pretty much always have Hunter's Mark up. Everlasting light is mandatory, and Trueshot aura is also pretty great although it is hard to give up stun quest.
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Sep 10, 2018 16:59
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I thought it was fairly widely known that Clone Samuro is pretty powerful, just enormously too high skill floor for the returns.
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Sep 10, 2018 17:42
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Had a dream where Abathur gets a rework that cuts his locusts entirely but super pumps up his symbiote, giving it its own separate ult. And also his AA is replaced with a short ranged sleep. Hire my id, Blizzard.
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Clone Samuro is a ton of fun and not even that hard to play once you get used to the 1-3 hotkeys. He's way, way more forgiving than Vikings since your clones are tough, quickly replaced, and don't give XP. Just be wary of enemies with quests that stack on hero hits.
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sam is waaay harder to play. Vikings are super forgiving - there are three of them, you only need 2 alive to get most of their effectiveness and .25x xp is so little. Actually getting a full hero's worth of value out of illusion sam is very very difficult, you only get one windwalk and actually contributing to a team fight is so hard (and you'll often have to, you don't have a big macro advantage early game). Clones do literally 10 damage now, back before transmission was baseline just sending clones out over and over was a semi-viable strategy in the late game but you really have to go in now.
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I watched that Grubby video and am seriously impressed. I need to resist buying Samuro and embarrassing myself.
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Gobbeldygook posted:Yes. He has two ults: the whirlwind you've probably seen and control images. Grubby just posted a new samuro video. i am always down to watch grubby play samuro and this is made even better by having a cameo from his very good boy logan
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