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I would like to point out that Hellion is not terribly well balanced character at the moment when it comes to her Skills and Paths. Rank 1 Ravager focused on pure damage is probably the strongest build atm (although she might be a poor fit against the Librarian), though if you somehow get Bloodied Branch and Rotten Tomato unique trinkets you can have bonkers-good Bleed-focused rank 2 Berserker. Carcass can make a good tank, but you won't be dealing any damage, ever, except via Bleed.
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Helion out of the box feels bad, esp when the default 4 was very reliable and with 8 candles you could get the Flagellant
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May 14, 2023 19:25
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Her two default attack skills (Iron Swan especially) are really good though? I've just been ignoring her winded mechanic until I unlock more skills but she's probably been my most impactful damage dealer despite that.
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May 14, 2023 19:32
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Hellion was OP but still good. Her bleeds are good for rank 2 or filler when winded. She's mix of direct damage and dot with direct damage being the best. Don't underestimate upgrade yawp either.
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May 14, 2023 19:55
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I think Hellion is good. She's a brawler at heart. Keep in mind she gets a passive damage buff at low health, and adrenaline rush heals her after attacking so you can land a big hit then get a heal tick right after.
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May 14, 2023 19:56
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Magni posted:Hellion has several moves that delete her Winded tokens. Only one she starts out with is IIRC the mastered version of Toe to Toe. I always prioritize mastering Toe to Toe, it's really fun to alternate between big hits and taunting.
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May 14, 2023 20:26
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The game is much more fun now than during EA, I’m glad they got rid of turn limits. I just wish it would just save your loadout for each class though.
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May 14, 2023 21:16
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Sassy Sasquatch posted:The game is much more fun now than during EA, I’m glad they got rid of turn limits. I just wish it would just save your loadout for each class though. It does, but only if you're keeping your heroes between chapters with memories.
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May 14, 2023 21:31
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For me, the issue wasn't turn limits themselves, but rather it was a lot of hassle for 4 relics and 4 baubles or whatever. Like it would've been cool if you got some nice reward for finishing a fight really quickly to give the player a choice between being risk averse or bolder.
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May 14, 2023 21:48
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Grave Robber feels better than on EA, dunno if anything changed or I just got more used to her
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May 14, 2023 22:04
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God, dying in one of your flashback things and losing the opportunity to get a new skill loving SUCKS I really feel like the candles should unlock abilities and the hero shrines should unlock paths. Then it avoids the "this affects [three skills you haven't got]" stuff
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May 14, 2023 22:14
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Yeah they should at least give you the mastery point. The next xt time I try jester chapter 4 will be the five attempt, I think.
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May 15, 2023 00:05
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just in case you wanted to test it, if you hit death's door on self damage with the flagellant you can loving die from enemy riposte
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May 15, 2023 00:52
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i hate that the negative relationships can attach to unused abilities and then just force those abilities on. it is complete bullshit
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May 15, 2023 01:58
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good grief, how on earth do you beat the shroud boss? other bosses are tough but seem doable even when i wipe first time i usually have a better idea of how to fight them next time. this guy is just constantly hitting my whole team with massive aoes and dragging heroes underwater so i'm fighting with a team of 3 and half the squad out of position unless i sink half my dps killing his infinite hands and i have no idea how i'm supposed to deal with that
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May 15, 2023 02:51
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Two main things help with the shroud boss, having good front rank damage that isn't reliant on one of your two front liners, and movement resist will protect against being dragged under by the hand. Speed also helps since if you kill the hand before it starts battering people the boss itself doesn't really do all that much. Einwand fucked around with this message at 02:57 on May 15, 2023 |
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May 15, 2023 02:55
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Wafflecopper posted:good grief, how on earth do you beat the shroud boss? other bosses are tough but seem doable even when i wipe first time i usually have a better idea of how to fight them next time. this guy is just constantly hitting my whole team with massive aoes and dragging heroes underwater so i'm fighting with a team of 3 and half the squad out of position unless i sink half my dps killing his infinite hands and i have no idea how i'm supposed to deal with that Think of it like shambler. Someone needs to hit the main body and someone needs to get the hand. There's reactive/proactive phases when you want to prep for what's next. Either removing blinds, buffing your heroes, and unloading damage. Buff/debuff skills are really helpful if there isn't enough burst damage. I've only killed it with kited out groups.
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May 15, 2023 03:09
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blizzardvizard posted:I still wanna play around with a Blight comp but I think I'm gonna try switching out the GR for Jester next. I didn't get as many opportunities to make use of the Scourge's Sepsis as I thought I would, and maybe Jester will help in that regard. Trip report: Flagellant/MAA/Jester/PD is disgustingly good so far. Flag and PD can destroy the backline easily, Jester can set up combo for the Scourge's Sepsis or for the MAA and PD to stun, Scourge Flag and PD have two of the strongest heals in the game, and all the stress heals make relationship management a cinch. Strategic Withdrawal into a big Finale is also a fun maneuver. The team just feels very bulky without sacrificing offense.
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May 15, 2023 05:05
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Honest Thief posted:Grave Robber feels better than on EA, dunno if anything changed or I just got more used to her I think the Grave Robber is the strongest character, and she's always been good. With Absinthe healing her and giving dodge tokens, she's so much harder to kill than all the others.
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Something I think warrants mention: The game does, once you've fought through the learning curve a bit, get substantially easier, and as I figured out various things I found myself saying "that's bullshit" less and " " more. There's a lot of tuning and loving around to be done, but they can be beaten.
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Chamale posted:I think the Grave Robber is the strongest character, and she's always been good. With Absinthe healing her and giving dodge tokens, she's so much harder to kill than all the others. Her paths were massively reworked, and even her Wanderer base Skills were adjusted a bit during EA. A lot of players considered her one of the weaker characters, alongside Runaway for a good stretch of the EA before the rework. Also not related but, because I went straight into Act IV, I just found out that 1.0 changed the Act III boss by making Phase 1 immune to Taunt, unlike in EA. What the actual gently caress? What's wrong with the devs?
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May 15, 2023 05:45
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I can understand why, Taunt probably would make the fight way too easy since you can just bypass the entire gimmick with 1 button press. They can still be guarded against, though. But I also think the gimmick is just way too feast-or-famine regardless and they need to rework it somehow.
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May 15, 2023 05:54
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It's a different set of options than it used to be. Phase one eyestalks now aim at their opposite rank, and you can dodge the initial token application. Each token now adds 25% damage taken in phase two, so with enough dancing, dodging, and killing, you can theoretically get through phase one with just one guy marked for only a lil extra damage. I still wouldn't try it without a Vestal or a MAA whose job for phase two is just "die slow".
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May 15, 2023 06:18
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What's the advantage of invisibility? It doesn't seem to do much by itself. Enemies can just target a different character.
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Ragnar34 posted:What's the advantage of invisibility? It doesn't seem to do much by itself. Enemies can just target a different character. As far as I know it’s a condition for certain skills and trinkets, in the same vein as combos. Also not being targetable by enemies is valuable in itself when your character is about to die or have a breakdown.
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Ok, in the Altar of Hope, there's a section where you can unlock memories for heros who have beaten the boss at the mountain, well and good. What's the deal with the big skull on the left-hand side though? I clicked it a couple of times, only then realizing it cost candles to do so.
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That just lets you put in loose candles instead of going all the way to the next upgrade pip. I'm pretty sure you used to not get to hold candles between runs or something so I guess it might've mattered in past?
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this run seems to be going well, can't wait to see what else the rng has in store for me
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Wafflecopper posted:this run seems to be going well, can't wait to see what else the rng has in store for me this dude's hosed
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It seems there's no limit on how much whiskey the characters can drink in one night, so I put a still on my carriage and had a pet owl that made the still produce more whiskey. Everyone got very drunk and friendly.
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Whiskeys are so important for relationship management that if my heroes get that Resolute quirk that blocks any alcohol I make it a priority to remove them. No one's getting sober on my watch.
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POWELL CURES KIDS posted:this dude's hosed ended up breezing through everything up until the act boss. it was my first time attempting the act 3 boss and i did not win
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The best thing they could and did was unlockable colors, u got me good, redhookWarden posted:Her paths were massively reworked, and even her Wanderer base Skills were adjusted a bit during EA. A lot of players considered her one of the weaker characters, alongside Runaway for a good stretch of the EA before the rework. I didn't check but her corpse clearing skill seems to heal stress now which wasn't a thing before too. She just has all the tools Honest Thief fucked around with this message at 11:05 on May 15, 2023 |
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May 15, 2023 10:41
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Third boss gently caress that absolute shitlord. Completely clowned him because my entire loadout and setup was designed to do so, after getting summarily destroyed multiple times. What a terrible fight.
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Honest Thief posted:The best thing they could and did was unlockable colors, u got me good, redhook It does WHAT now? Whoa, that's, uh, that's a pretty major improvement.
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It healed stress when mastered
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I vote also on a class loadout, esp now that you got cosmetics, let me have one or two slots for saved builds for each character
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I had such a good run, defeated the Leviathan on my 3rd route and was ready for the final boss of act 2. Then, the stop before the last inn - death appeared and killed 2 of my characters Fucks sake death Running a weird team at the moment (to me) of Seraph Vestal, Maniac Flagellant, Vanguard Man at Arms, Tempest Leper and it actually works really well. gently caress is the leper strong, I feel like he absolutely outclasses the Hellion Taear fucked around with this message at 17:35 on May 15, 2023 |
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really feels like death should be going after all these zombies and skeletons running around instead of a single random flagellant
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Random heroes are doing a good enough job on zombies and gaunts.
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