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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Lick! The! Whisk! posted:

I think RP1 would be an Actually Good book if it was presented as a satire and not sincere, considering what I know about it. Like, literally, that one change would save it.

American Psycho was good but even then the chapters where Bateman would ramble on and on about some bit of 80s pop culture were a struggle to get through.

Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Dec 30, 2017

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Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


I think you could (and possibly they will) make a decent movie out of RP1 if you lifted the concept, and only lightly adhered to the plot. In an immediate visual medium, at least, the pop culture references would be quick and instantaneous and not slow and labored.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

American Psycho was good but even then the chapters were Bateman would ramble on and on about some bit of 80s pop culture were a struggle to get through.

So...you...agree? I mean, the movie is better, but the book is still good, imo.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Old Kentucky Shark posted:

I think you could (and possibly they will) make a decent movie out of RP1 if you lifted the concept, and only lightly adhered to the plot. In an immediate visual medium, at least, the pop culture references would be quick and instantaneous and not slow and labored.

At least the movie informs us that even in the dystopian future people will still have a fondness for Overwatch's Tracer, iconic character from the hit Blizzard video game Overwatch.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Lick! The! Whisk! posted:

So...you...agree? I mean, the movie is better, but the book is still good, imo.

It'd definitely improve it. I think it'd need more to be an actual good book though, in the same way that American Psycho wasn't just :words: about Genesis.

The movie of American Psycho was definitely better than the book.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

It'd definitely improve it. I think it'd need more to be an actual good book though, in the same way that American Psycho wasn't just :words: about Genesis.

The movie of American Psycho was definitely better than the book.

I think there's something to presenting a world so hosed that people are forced into, either for any sort of possibility of advancement or because the world is literally just that loving broken, ideating the 80s solely to its own end and for the purpose of being nostalgic for an era that they never actually lived in, and I even think there's a way to loop the main character into that sort of TvTropesing of reality, but I guess what it would need is an extremely deft hand to do so. Because, yeah, at some point you're just reading lists of things.

I'm thinking of some sort of 1984-esque slow awakening on the protag's part that the world within which they exist is lifeless and meaningless and that rote memorization of Things to its own end is purposeless pablum used only to keep society happy and occupied, but that seems waaay too self-aware on the writer's part.

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Oct 15, 2012

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I think at some point you’d also need to confront either the protagonist or the viewer with the fact that the 80s were not necessarily this idyllic golden age at all.

JT Smiley
Mar 3, 2006
Thats whats up!
The hero of the book has limitless access to all media at all time and spends his time playing lovely Atari games and watching Family Ties over and over again.

Also, you have to love that Hollywood made the bold choice to cast a handsome and fit guy to play a dude who sits in his room all day playing video games and watching tv non-stop.

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
I was in complete blissful ignorance of RP1 until its trailer was shown before The Last Jedi the other week, whereupon it came over like the kind of shitpile that just leaves you shaking your head “whyyyyy?” But the trailer pales in comparison to these fuckawful nightmare extracts y’all are posting, which sounds like an excellent contender for Worst Piece Of ‘Art’ Of The 21st Century. Like, HOLY gently caress, it sounds utterly loathsome and I rather resent that its creator has prospered in any way from it on general principle.

One way to salvage it: get Paul Verhoeven in his prime to do it. Otherwise don’t bother.

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST
I wanted to go in and love Aquaman so much. He's one of the flattest parts of Justice League. He's not bad, no, but I think that's worse. He's boring. The Flash ended up being a pleasant surprise, so I'm hoping his solo outing turns out to be good.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


I don't think you can really judge either character by how they appear in Justice League, that film is a mess and most of his scenes are green screened in, obvious reshoots, or both

MH Knights
Aug 4, 2007

fruit on the bottom posted:

I think at some point you’d also need to confront either the protagonist or the viewer with the fact that the 80s were not necessarily this idyllic golden age at all.

Unless you were an upper middle-class or higher white person weren't the 80's a bad time?

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

MH Knights posted:

Unless you were an upper middle-class or higher white person weren't the __'s a bad time?

yes

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST

Al Borland Corp. posted:

I don't think you can really judge either character by how they appear in Justice League, that film is a mess and most of his scenes are green screened in, obvious reshoots, or both

So then I guess I'll judge him based on...nothing at all? I'm not pulling hype out of my rear end for Aquamamoa based on him being pretty. I already did that once and he let me down.

He's in a better movie than Superman had been in up to that point.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



JT Smiley posted:

The hero of the book has limitless access to all media at all time and spends his time playing lovely Atari games and watching Family Ties over and over again.

Also, you have to love that Hollywood made the bold choice to cast a handsome and fit guy to play a dude who sits in his room all day playing video games and watching tv non-stop.
In the book there's a (like most actual plot developments) paragraph or two about how he got fat, so he buys a treadmill and sets up his gear so he can't use it unless he's burned a certain number of calories. Then he gets thin again.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


SonicRulez posted:


He's in a better movie than Superman had been in up to that point.
I don't think so Tim

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through

Ojjeorago posted:

Vincent Chase is a much better Aquaman than Jason Momoa.

Me and my friends were really bummed when the power went out in the theater in that show and the Aquaman footage stopped.

It looked pretty neat.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Endless Mike posted:

In the book there's a (like most actual plot developments) paragraph or two about how he got fat, so he buys a treadmill and sets up his gear so he can't use it unless he's burned a certain number of calories. Then he gets thin again.

Also he's completely bald because he doesn't want to waste time on anything like "personal grooming" so he just uses a depilatory creme that causes all his hair to fall out and not regrow.

Also also during this part of the book he literally never leaves his apartment.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Endless Mike posted:

In the book there's a (like most actual plot developments) paragraph or two about how he got fat, so he buys a treadmill and sets up his gear so he can't use it unless he's burned a certain number of calories. Then he gets thin again.

This is actually cool and there’s real life story equivalents of it already.. I mean there’s already those gimmicky omnidirectional treadmills for VR so they just need to refine the tech and you can merge walking/exercise with VR. Then in a reversal of the stereotype the hardcore gamers will all be incredibly ripped and have amazing leg strength.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Al Borland Corp. posted:

I don't think you can really judge either character by how they appear in Justice League, that film is a mess and most of his scenes are green screened in, obvious reshoots, or both

I think it's safe to assume there's gonna be a lot of green screen in a movie that takes place underwater

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


site posted:

I think it's safe to assume there's gonna be a lot of green screen in a movie that takes place underwater

I mean him being added as an element to a scene he wasn't originally in

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Happy Noodle Boy posted:

This is actually cool and there’s real life story equivalents of it already.. I mean there’s already those gimmicky omnidirectional treadmills for VR so they just need to refine the tech and you can merge walking/exercise with VR. Then in a reversal of the stereotype the hardcore gamers will all be incredibly ripped and have amazing leg strength.
Yeah, mostly I was commenting on the fact Cline breezes past it since listing 80s references is more fun or whatever.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Can I get that anti hair cream?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Can I get the opposite of it?

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Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

MH Knights posted:

Unless you were an upper middle-class or higher white person weren't the 80's a bad time?

Sure, but my overall point is that every era has its ugly side that we tend to ignore when we're in full nostalgia mode (like the apparent lost era of full of things only 90s kids can remember) and I think any critique of that nostalgia has to confront that uncomfortable truth at some point

Ojjeorago
Sep 21, 2008

I had a dream, too. It wasn't pleasant, though ... I dreamt I was a moron...
Gary’s Answer

Rhyno posted:

Can I get that anti hair cream?

loneliness + alienation + fear + despair + self-worth ÷ mockery ÷ condemnation ÷ misunderstanding × guilt × shame × failure × judgment n=y where y=hope and n=follicle, love=lies, hair=death, self=dark side

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

Rhyno posted:

Can I get that anti hair cream?


Lurdiak posted:

Can I get the opposite of it?

Can i get both?
:sigh:

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

Here's another titanic literary achievement from Ernest Cline, voice of our generation:



Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

SlimGoodbody posted:

Here's another titanic literary achievement from Ernest Cline, voice of our generation:





:randno:

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

SlimGoodbody posted:

Here's another titanic literary achievement from Ernest Cline, voice of our generation:





He’s the kind of guy who writes this and then makes a big angry post in r/redpill because the girls who read his poem still wouldn’t gently caress him

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

"I hate mainstream porn because I agree that women are objects, but they're not showing me the specific objects I like" is uh, sure some sort of stance on something alright

This dude is a total creep

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

Ready Player One is literally a longform version of that "poem"

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.

SlimGoodbody posted:

Here's another titanic literary achievement from Ernest Cline, voice of our generation:





The most disappointing is that there's tons of porn like that, guy Isn't competent enough to even have a wank.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



TBF that was written in 2000, when the idea of nerd porn was a porn star holding a Playstation controller. Doesn't make it any better, and I'm not sure why Lowtax (or someone) tried to parody it on the front page since the real thing stands on its own. Also, apparently the transcript has been taken off his page because someone actually published it in a real book. (The MP3 is still there, though.)

JT Smiley
Mar 3, 2006
Thats whats up!

Endless Mike posted:

TBF that was written in 2000, when the idea of nerd porn was a porn star holding a Playstation controller. Doesn't make it any better, and I'm not sure why Lowtax (or someone) tried to parody it on the front page since the real thing stands on its own. Also, apparently the transcript has been taken off his page because someone actually published it in a real book. (The MP3 is still there, though.)

In 2017 he'd probably be complaining​ about fake nerd girl porn.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

JT Smiley posted:

In 2017 he'd probably be complaining​ about fake nerd girl porn.

“I want a real Nerd Girl
One who appreciates Zeddemore
And not just
Egon and Venkman”

JT Smiley
Mar 3, 2006
Thats whats up!
This girl thinks it's ok to watch Marvel movies without having encyclopedic knowledge of the comics! How am i supposed to get off on that?

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

He basically thinks he invented the talk-job here as some kind of incredible sexual revelation, when jacking off a John's ego is not even remotely a new concept for sex workers. He's just so utterly unself-aware, it's like everything he writes was scripted by a Markov Chain fed on r/incels and the Wikipedia list of 80s pop culture. He's Dunning Kruger Syndrome personified.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

JT Smiley posted:

This girl thinks it's ok to watch Marvel movies without having encyclopedic knowledge of the comics! How am i supposed to get off on that?

"I will make the porn parodies
for the real nerds
this Civil War XXX is based on the
inferior movie for the fake nerds.
There will be a film for erotic enthusiasts
who want the true experience
with Tony cloning female Thors who will
have an orgy"

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Comic porn parodies tend to have amazing costuming.

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