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MechaSeinfeld posted:I feel like even though they’re updating the game and pitching missing stuff in it might just make sense to wait until the dlc comes out and see how it plays then. no. & if this is what you actually think then I have some poo poo straight from my rear end in a top hat to sell you, just wait for the bidet dlc.
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I think its magical this game has less activity than the New Vegas modding thread. Way to put up that L.
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I’d love to know how much this game’s performance ultimately directly contributed to the recent closure of the various Bethesda studios.
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OTOH, Starfield got me into the Traveler TTRPG which is awesome in all the ways Starfield isn't
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Athletic Footjob posted:I’d love to know how much this game’s performance ultimately directly contributed to the recent closure of the various Bethesda studios. Probably a not insignificant amount, but even though it didn't retain players, they sold a whole lot of copies on release
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The issue Bethesda have is not with Starfield per se, it's that this debacle has completely let the air out of the hype for their next game. The narrative is going to be 'Did Bethesda poo poo the bed again?' which will hurt pre-orders, and the critical response will be much less forgiving.
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Alchenar posted:The issue Bethesda have is not with Starfield per se, it's that this debacle has completely let the air out of the hype for their next game. The narrative is going to be 'Did Bethesda poo poo the bed again?' which will hurt pre-orders, and the critical response will be much less forgiving. yuuuuup. Remember, it's never the movie in a franchise that everyone thinks sucked that does badly at the box office. It's the sequel after that. edit: also it can't be under stated how many "reviewers" are basically putting up what they think is going to be the general consensus rather than an honest review. Starfield was expected to be good so a lot of people rushed to put out day 1 glowing reviews and it wasn't until the following weeks that the really critical ones started coming in, and then once the dam broke it was a flood of beating a dead horse. Blood is in the water and even the most obsequious toady of a content creator reviewer is going to be willing to take a swipe at Beth's next offering. Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at 13:40 on May 21, 2024 |
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Old Doggy Bastard posted:I think its magical this game has less activity than the New Vegas modding thread. Way to put up that L. I keep an eye on the subreddit just to see if anything is happening with the game and nothing really is. The subreddit has dwindled down to a core of folks making weird-rear end hyper-positive posts about how the game was always perfect, and a whole fuckload of boring photo mode screenshots. Occasionally there's a crumb of news about the creation kit.
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Tiny Timbs posted:and a whole fuckload of boring photo mode screenshots. Hey, apparently the people who extra photo mode feature add in the patch was for!
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Tiny Timbs posted:I keep an eye on the subreddit just to see if anything is happening with the game and nothing really is. The subreddit has dwindled down to a core of folks making weird-rear end hyper-positive posts about how the game was always perfect, and a whole fuckload of boring photo mode screenshots. Occasionally there's a crumb of news about the creation kit. This is how it is with a lot of gaming fandoms. If nothing new is really going on, the most critical and the ambivalent eventually move on, leaving just the True Believers. With enough time, they create an alternate history of how the game was misunderstood or everyone else was wrong, actually.
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I think people are finally just tired of playing The Bethesda Game with various new coats of paint for the last 20 years
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AndrewP posted:I think people are finally just tired of playing The Bethesda Game with various new coats of paint for the last 20 years I would play 8 hours a day of new Bethesda Games forever, as long as they were decent to good tbh.
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It's several things:
Bethesda can't roll back the clock; they can't make smaller game (popular conception of what a AAA title is won't allow it), and they aren't the small company of long time coworkers anymore anyway. So the only real questions are: can Microsoft improve the project management at Bethesda and can anyone with real writing talent get into a senior creative position there. I think probably not, to both, but all I can do is wait and see. The worst part is I'm almost certainly going to buy ES6 anyway because games aren't prohibitively expensive and then, there you go, I've wallet voted.
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Jack B Nimble posted:
I'm at a point in my life where I can afford all the games I wanted when I was younger, but I just don't have time to play every title that comes out. So I'm 100% waiting on reviews for TE6 just because I don't want my limited gaming time to get soaked up by a mediocre experience.
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Cyrano4747 posted:I'm at a point in my life where I can afford all the games I wanted when I was younger, but I just don't have time to play every title that comes out. Yeah there's an interesting dynamic going on where as the average age of the gaming audience goes up, people have more money for their hobby but less time. I think this explains why most games being played are over 6 years old, and why so many people value longevity and 'lifetime support' in a game.
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Alchenar posted:Yeah there's an interesting dynamic going on where as the average age of the gaming audience goes up, people have more money for their hobby but less time. I think this explains why most games being played are over 6 years old, and why so many people value longevity and 'lifetime support' in a game. 15-20 years ago I had loving opinions about the trend of games getting shorter and shorter single player campaigns and was loudly critical of anything where the campaign could be beaten in only 20-ish hours. That's less than a week of gaming after classes! These days? I have this soul-shuddering sigh when I look at some open world monster that I know is going to require 100+ hours to really finish up. If I want to finish it out that's going to be a couple months of playing just that, and man that's a lot of time to live with one game. And I say this as someone who very much still games a fair bit, an hour or two a night isn't uncommon at all.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Bethesda can't roll back the clock; they can't make smaller game (popular conception of what a AAA title is won't allow it), and they aren't the small company of long time coworkers anymore anyway. Bethesda aren't gonna make their Pentiment, I'm afraid.
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AndrewP posted:I think people are finally just tired of playing The Bethesda Game with various new coats of paint for the last 20 years I'm not, I just wish it were more cohesive than this thing they made
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Cyrano4747 posted:15-20 years ago I had loving opinions about the trend of games getting shorter and shorter single player campaigns and was loudly critical of anything where the campaign could be beaten in only 20-ish hours. That's less than a week of gaming after classes! To me that's mostly about the KIND of long it is. Some Ubisoft game probably takes as long to check off most of the junk as Baldur's Gate 3, but that's a very different play experience. Or better yet, BG3 vs the second installment of the Final Fantasy 7 remake, which seems to be a huge waste of time. I don't have room for multiple BG3's, but I don't feel despair when they appear, I just slowly play through it, then the next one, at my own pace.
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Jack B Nimble posted:To me that's mostly about the KIND of long it is. Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. I've got a BG3 playthrough that's about 80% done that I'm sure I'll polish off in the coming months, even as I do other stuff on the side, but I just can't afford to be the gaming omnivore I was back in the day. One upon a time I'd put 80 hours into a game I thought was just OK because, gently caress it, it's new and fun enough and I've got some hours to kill. These days if I'm going to sink that kind of time in it has to really have something to sell it. Interestingly I've been going back and doing a bunch of those old short campaigns that I skipped back in the day as palate cleansers. I remember derisively skipping WH40k Space Marine when it came out because it only had about 10 hours of gameplay. I just beat it (8.6 hours according to Steam) a few months ago and man, it felt positively refreshing.
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Optimal length for an RPG is 50-100 hours, preferably closer to 50 than 100. That's Fallout 2, Gothic 2, Planescape Torment, Disco Elysium, Mass Effect 2. fite me
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150 hours is the ideal RPG minimum.
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Cyrano4747 posted:edit: also it can't be under stated how many "reviewers" are basically putting up what they think is going to be the general consensus rather than an honest review. Starfield was expected to be good so a lot of people rushed to put out day 1 glowing reviews and it wasn't until the following weeks that the really critical ones started coming in, and then once the dam broke it was a flood of beating a dead horse. To be honest I don’t really agree with this, I think even the day one reviews of Starfield were pretty lukewarm. From memory there were a lot of 6-7/10 scores, despite the “accolades trailer” guff from Bethesda. Even in this thread, on day one there was someone who’d played a review copy and warning how “okay-ish” it was. Sucks for the people who’d already preordered it guess! But yeah I agree that people will be pretty circumspect about the next Bethesda game.
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I think ideal RPG length depends on the quality. If it's 10-25 hours it should have a lot of reactivity, like Alpha Protocol. If it's going to be be substantially longer, then it should be something that sticks to the ribs, like BG3, Dragon Age, New Vegas, etc. Bonus points if it's a very long game and also filled with lots of reactivity. Like Deadfire, BG3, New Vegas, etc.
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its not the length, its the girth.
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Alchenar posted:Yeah there's an interesting dynamic going on where as the average age of the gaming audience goes up, people have more money for their hobby but less time. I think this explains why most games being played are over 6 years old, and why so many people value longevity and 'lifetime support' in a game. I kinda feel like "games people can play with their kids" may be an underserved market given the demographics. (And that roguelites may be successful in part because of those changes?)
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I will say one unambiguously good thing about the new patch is the ship decorating: the Starborn Guardian is now a ship i actually want to keep around because the interior isn't as dull. Why this feature wasn't around to begin with, I don't know 😕
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I liked Starfield day one because it had some promise; then it gets worse the more time you spend with it. Notably, however, I wasn't posting reviews on day one lol.
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As a longtime Paradox Interactive fan it is well drilled into me that the correct opinion of a game only appears 2 weeks after release
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Love Shovel posted:I will say one unambiguously good thing about the new patch is the ship decorating: the Starborn Guardian is now a ship i actually want to keep around because the interior isn't as dull. Why this feature wasn't around to begin with, I don't know 😕 Like a lot of things in Starfield: they had big plans and had to cut things for release. Modders had customizable ship interiors pretty soon after release, but it had the usual caveat that any ship edits wipes all your work. Bethesda finally got it working with a better degree of persistence (you can change your guns without losing everything).
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