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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

you can get the 13" 4/128 MBA at Best Buy right now for $799, $749 with a college id

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-m...7&skuId=1581921

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I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Bob Morales posted:

you can get the 13" 4/128 MBA at Best Buy right now for $799, $749 with a college id

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-m...7&skuId=1581921

Best Buy has a 17" version MBP for $999. Worth it?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

I said come in! posted:

Best Buy has a 17" version MBP for $999. Worth it?

Is it some sort of leftover 2011 model, a refurb, or some kind of special snowflake manager allowed return or something that was lost in the service center for 3 years? They haven't made a 17" MacBook since 2011 (although I'm sure some remained unsold for 1+ year after they quit making them).

Ninja Rope
Oct 22, 2005

Wee.

goethe gear xx posted:

2015 13'' MBP

Are you talking about literally the 13" Macbook Pro? Because you shouldn't get that one.

goethe gear xx
Sep 17, 2004

faustoo

Ninja Rope posted:

Are you talking about literally the 13" Macbook Pro? Because you shouldn't get that one.

Oh right, no, I meant the one with a Retina display.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I said come in! posted:

Best Buy has a 17" version MBP for $999. Worth it?

Best Buy does what Amazon does now which is offer stuff from "Marketplace sellers" that aren't Best Buy.

The one you're looking at is a 3rd-party refurbished (i.e. Used) model from a seller called "JemJem". It has one review, which is one star from someone who had the logic board die past 30 days and had to pay $1000 to fix it.

I would lean towards no.

Sex Weirdo
Jul 24, 2007

Just looking for confirmation that I'm not making a horrible mistake. I'm looking at buying a 27" iMac for $900. Here are the specs:

3.2 GHz Quad-core intel i5
8gb Ram
1tb 7200rpm hard drive
GeForce GTX 675mx

Supposedly purchsed new last september. I'd be upgrading from my current G5 iMac so I'm sure it will be light years ahead of that, but is it a decent price/performance ratio?

Nut Bunnies
May 24, 2005

Fun Shoe
That is a hell of a buy considering it retails for $1799. I'm honestly wondering why the guy is willing to take an $800 bath after 7 months.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Poop in the keyboard probably.

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

It's stolen probably, too good a price.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Walk away from that one. The deal is too good to be true. Or if you do decide to buy it, make sure you have some way to get your money back when it turns out the computer doesn't work.

Sex Weirdo
Jul 24, 2007

I didnt think it was THAT great of a deal. Heres the ad

http://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/sys/4990565841.html

Its not too far off from comparable ones on ebay, like this one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-iMac-...=item25a4ed9329


e: \/\/\/ ah hell, you're right I misunderstood
sorry to mislead everyone

Sex Weirdo fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Apr 25, 2015

buffbus
Nov 19, 2012

Sex Weirdo posted:

I didnt think it was THAT great of a deal. Heres the ad

http://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/sys/4990565841.html

Its not too far off from comparable ones on ebay, like this one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-iMac-...=item25a4ed9329

That makes sense then. He says he had it since September, not that it was purchased new at that time. The generation of video card makes it at least a few years old.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

Pivo posted:

Well as I said, I have Safari configured how I like it, I use it when I'm mobile, but I'm totally fine with Chrome being a big power hog when I'm plugged in. Leaking memory, I can't speak to that really, I have too much memory to care. ;-)

All I was saying was THAT particular limitation of Safari - that extensions can't control the network connections of plugins - is what made me switch. It sounds trivial, I know, but it's a big deal to me. I really hate pop-up ads in videos and pre-rolls and stuff like that. 99% of the time it's not an issue. Safari is a good browser.

And I use Firefox at work. I'm weird.


I still use safari on my mac mini, because even though i have plenty of RAM i'll usually still have my browser open when I'm working on a track or something for ripping audio or just for checking fb/twitter etc, the memory leaks just ruin the performance of logic as it likes a lot of RAM. Also it means i can just leave safari always open when i sleep the machine etc. I don't think i could have chrome open for weeks at a time like that without things getting ridiculous.

And yeah thats fair enough, but for me its enough that it can block youtube ads now, which is what made me switch back from chrome!

What state is firefox in at this point? It used to be my goto browser for both OS X and windows but i haven't touched it in ages.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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Bob Morales posted:

you can get the 13" 4/128 MBA at Best Buy right now for $799, $749 with a college id

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-m...7&skuId=1581921

I combined this with the mover's coupon I still had laying around.... $675 before taxes, $709.42 out the door.

drat you impulse purchases, you make my wife hate me :argh:

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

Sex Weirdo posted:

Just looking for confirmation that I'm not making a horrible mistake. I'm looking at buying a 27" iMac for $900. Here are the specs:

3.2 GHz Quad-core intel i5
8gb Ram
1tb 7200rpm hard drive
GeForce GTX 675mx

Supposedly purchsed new last september. I'd be upgrading from my current G5 iMac so I'm sure it will be light years ahead of that, but is it a decent price/performance ratio?

I bought an iMac like that many years ago and on the surface it was a great deal. I immediately extended AppleCare and it was good I did because it looked (internally) like it had fallen. I had to take it in 3 times and I got lucky that they took pity on me and replaced literally every internal component trying to fix the display problems I was having. My printed summary of repairs was 10 pages long.

This was before they got strict about Applecare, so buyer beware.

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


Played with the new MacBook. Holy poo poo it's so tiny. Loaded some heavy sites, threw the scroll as fast as I could, couldn't get it to lag. Trackpad is seriously impressive.

No stock though and stupid price. Maybe next year.

Sex Weirdo
Jul 24, 2007

Feenix posted:

I bought an iMac like that many years ago and on the surface it was a great deal. I immediately extended AppleCare and it was good I did because it looked (internally) like it had fallen. I had to take it in 3 times and I got lucky that they took pity on me and replaced literally every internal component trying to fix the display problems I was having. My printed summary of repairs was 10 pages long.

This was before they got strict about Applecare, so buyer beware.

Well I dont have to worry about it now, they flaked out and cancelled an hour before we were supposed to meet.

The joys of craigslist.

haximus prime
Nov 23, 2007
buttes

I said come in! posted:

Best Buy has a 17" version MBP for $999. Worth it?

Please please please make sure its not a early-2011 if you will go through with it.. I'm typing on one right now on its 5th logic board replacement.

https://www.apple.com/support/macbookpro-videoissues/

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

haximus prime posted:

Please please please make sure its not a early-2011 if you will go through with it.. I'm typing on one right now on its 5th logic board replacement.

https://www.apple.com/support/macbookpro-videoissues/

They finally issued a recall for those.

https://www.apple.com/support/macbookpro-videoissues/

AlliedBiscuit
Oct 23, 2012

Do you want to know the terrifying truth, or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?!!
So I finally gave in and bought a refurbished Retina iMac i7, with 500 gb solid state drive and upgraded video card. I was carefully tracking the shipment while I was at work, and my fiance was being amazing and hanging around the apartment just to be there to receive the package, which was just a few miles away.

And I get a message from Apple saying the thing was damaged in shipping and sent back. Was really looking forward to having the weekend to play with my first new machine in 6 years. They should, like, send me one with a 1 TB drive now.

coldplay chiptunes
Sep 17, 2010

by Lowtax

AlliedBiscuit posted:

So I finally gave in and bought a refurbished Retina iMac i7, with 500 gb solid state drive and upgraded video card. I was carefully tracking the shipment while I was at work, and my fiance was being amazing and hanging around the apartment just to be there to receive the package, which was just a few miles away.

And I get a message from Apple saying the thing was damaged in shipping and sent back. Was really looking forward to having the weekend to play with my first new machine in 6 years. They should, like, send me one with a 1 TB drive now.
Goondolences.

Also remember that you can throw 32GB of ram in that thing for like $200 off of Amazon easy peasy. Dunno how much ram the unit you got had but I saved basically $800 by getting a refurb unit and maxing the ram out myself.

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

I am getting a new computer soon, and as a combination bday/xmas gift my folks are assisting me with the purchase. For this reason, I am not nearly as concerned with the cost as I would ordinarily be. I'm more interested in getting a very powerful and reliable machine that I can use to do work for a very long time. I've been happy with my macbook pro for a long time, and I like working on a laptop. But i'm not married to the idea, and if folks think a desktop would be better I'll consider it. That said, I don't have a monitor or keyboard so those things would have to factor in to the cost.

It needs to be reasonably powerful - i don't need to run the highest-end video games, but it needs to handle animation and compositing like a champion. The smoother this runs, the faster my work is going to be. It's mostly Flash and Photoshop, with some occasional After Effects and Final Cut.

That said, I would like to play video games on it too - I bootcamped my current mac for a small windows partition, and as a result I own a reasonable number of pc-only steam games. I also enjoy league. That means I will definitely need at least 2 USB ports for my mouse and microphone. I understand a lot of the newer macs are using a lot less ports, and I'm a little wary of that. Is a dvd drive still an option, even? I definitely needed the dvd drive to install windows, so I'm wondering how folks are dual-booting without them.

My friends have been telling me just to build a PC desktop, and it would certainly be much cheaper. But I've enjoyed how reliable my MBP has been, and I don't miss how crash-prone my PCs always seemed to be after a few years. I used to tell myself I had a mac because the adobe programs worked better on them, but now I'm not positive that's even true anymore. Is that still true? And furthermore, would it even be possible to rescue most of these files if I moved back to PC at this point?

I rather like having a mactop, and that's what I've been leaning towards. I would definitely go for a solid state drive, unless you have compelling evidence why I shouldn't. I don't buy computers very often, and I'm not sure if there's anything on the horizon that I should be holding out for. What does it sound like I need to you?

coldplay chiptunes
Sep 17, 2010

by Lowtax
You need to go through your needs again and rank them in order of importance, re: portability, power, gaming, cost, etc. because currently you just all have them listed as "stuff" and there's no real way to hit every single base.

My initial recommendation would be a 13" rMBP from the refurb store for ~$1000 but those are pretty rare and finding one that meets your RAM/SSD requirements might be a bit of a wait.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Ignite Memories posted:

I am getting a new computer soon, and as a combination bday/xmas gift my folks are assisting me with the purchase. For this reason, I am not nearly as concerned with the cost as I would ordinarily be. I'm more interested in getting a very powerful and reliable machine that I can use to do work for a very long time. I've been happy with my macbook pro for a long time, and I like working on a laptop. But i'm not married to the idea, and if folks think a desktop would be better I'll consider it. That said, I don't have a monitor or keyboard so those things would have to factor in to the cost.

It needs to be reasonably powerful - i don't need to run the highest-end video games, but it needs to handle animation and compositing like a champion. The smoother this runs, the faster my work is going to be. It's mostly Flash and Photoshop, with some occasional After Effects and Final Cut.

That said, I would like to play video games on it too - I bootcamped my current mac for a small windows partition, and as a result I own a reasonable number of pc-only steam games. I also enjoy league. That means I will definitely need at least 2 USB ports for my mouse and microphone. I understand a lot of the newer macs are using a lot less ports, and I'm a little wary of that. Is a dvd drive still an option, even? I definitely needed the dvd drive to install windows, so I'm wondering how folks are dual-booting without them.

My friends have been telling me just to build a PC desktop, and it would certainly be much cheaper. But I've enjoyed how reliable my MBP has been, and I don't miss how crash-prone my PCs always seemed to be after a few years. I used to tell myself I had a mac because the adobe programs worked better on them, but now I'm not positive that's even true anymore. Is that still true? And furthermore, would it even be possible to rescue most of these files if I moved back to PC at this point?

I rather like having a mactop, and that's what I've been leaning towards. I would definitely go for a solid state drive, unless you have compelling evidence why I shouldn't. I don't buy computers very often, and I'm not sure if there's anything on the horizon that I should be holding out for. What does it sound like I need to you?

The only portable option I'd consider is a 15" retina MacBook Pro with the two GPUs and 16gb of RAM. I think that trim level comes with 512gb of solid storage by default. The only laptop that Apple still makes with a platter drive is the 13" Fatbook Pro, which incidentally nobody should ever buy.

If you went with a desktop you could get more power and a bigger display. Since you're cross-shopping laptops and desktops I'm going to assume that you don't need any variant of Mac Pro- which only leaves the retina iMac (I wouldn't consider the non-retina 2560x1440 one in your situation). Trick it out with the high-end GPU and i7 if you're concerned about future-proofing, but do what Coldplay chiptunes said a few posts above me and buy your RAM separately to save several hundred bucks (the 27" iMac has user-replaceable RAM, unlike the laptop).

Both are gonna be pretty decent gaming machines- in fact, if I'm not mistaken the iMac is actually rather solid in that department. You won't run anything at 4/5k with everything set to "extreme" at a comfortable framerate but 2560x1440 on high settings seems to be quite doable for recent, fairly taxing games. From what I understand anything MMO/a couple of years old and generally most Steam stuff shouldn't even phase it.

As for DVD drives, neither of them has one (but neither do any consumer PCs these days) but any off-the shelf USB one should work if/when you need it. I'd find a well-reviewed one on Amazon or whatever and maybe do a quick Google search to see if it has any issues with OSX. Don't get suckered into paying $75 for Apple's unless you really just don't give a poo poo.

You install Windows by (I think) downloading it and putting it on a USB stick. Or maybe just downloading it. Nobody's playing the install disk game anymore.

Edit: ...and Coldplay chiptunes just beat me to post. I'll throw in another "you need to give us more details and maybe tell us how old your current MPB is and stuff."

My post above operates on the assumption that "cost isn't important but also a little important." Hence I went for the quad core/better GPU/bigger screen options (if the 13" rMBP would adequately suit your needs for a lot less money it's a great computer too). It's also why I didn't mention the refurb store- which you should totally use to buy whatever Mac you end up choosing so you can save your family a few hundred bucks.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Apr 26, 2015

nerdrum
Aug 17, 2007

where am I
How stupid would it be to downgrade from a late 2013 13" rMBP 256/8gb to a base MacBook? i do a bit of editing in Photoshop but mostly proofs; primarily spreadsheets and sitting on my couch in chrome or safari.

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

Thanks for the responses. To put my priorities in order, I would say:

Durability
Power
Gaming
Portability
Cost


Does the retina MBPS have enough USB ports to have a mic and a mouse plugged in at the same time? Honestly, the more USB ports the better.

How's the quality of the refurbs? Saving a few hundred would be great, but I only buy a computer once every eight years or so. If durability is a concern, maybe a brand new computer would be preferable. I want the protection plan and all that crap.

Shin-chan
Aug 1, 2008

To be a man you must have honor...
...honor and a penis!

Ignite Memories posted:

Does the retina MBPS have enough USB ports to have a mic and a mouse plugged in at the same time? Honestly, the more USB ports the better.

They have two USB ports.

Ignite Memories posted:

How's the quality of the refurbs? Saving a few hundred would be great, but I only buy a computer once every eight years or so. If durability is a concern, maybe a brand new computer would be preferable. I want the protection plan and all that crap.

The quality is excellent. Each device and component is individually tested, anything that fails is replaced. Any cosmetic damage is also repaired. They carry a full warranty and you can extend that with AppleCare for the full 3 years, just like a brand new machine. They usually are pretty great deals.

Karsh
Dec 22, 2004

this is my destiny
Plaster Town Cop

nerdrum posted:

How stupid would it be to downgrade from a late 2013 13" rMBP 256/8gb to a base MacBook? i do a bit of editing in Photoshop but mostly proofs; primarily spreadsheets and sitting on my couch in chrome or safari.

It'll feel a bit slower/laggier, but drat is it small and nice. Photoshop is manageable, Chrome runs somewhat poorly (mostly on sites with lots of hiDPI assets) but that not surprising. Test drive the keyboard in a store, if possible--I think it feels great, but many hate it.

I personally just returned a base MacBook in favor of a 2015 rMBP. I didn't think the CPU would matter to me, since I mostly did basic web dev, Photoshop, etc, but it felt just chunky enough that I couldn't keep it.

coldplay chiptunes
Sep 17, 2010

by Lowtax

Ignite Memories posted:

Thanks for the responses. To put my priorities in order, I would say:

Durability
Power
Gaming
Portability
Cost


Does the retina MBPS have enough USB ports to have a mic and a mouse plugged in at the same time? Honestly, the more USB ports the better.

How's the quality of the refurbs? Saving a few hundred would be great, but I only buy a computer once every eight years or so. If durability is a concern, maybe a brand new computer would be preferable. I want the protection plan and all that crap.
Refurbs are effectively better than new units since they have to go through Apple's inspection process before they're put up.

Honestly based on that list I'd just go for a maxed out 5k iMac (get the 4GB vram, but do the 32GB ram yourself). It'll be close to $3k but it'll last you YEARS and will perform amazingly with absolutely everything you require. And it's freaking gorgeous.

Keep an eye on the refurb store and you might be able to save yourself a couple hundred, but at the expense of waiting until your particular combination shows up.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/imac/27

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Ignite Memories posted:

Thanks for the responses. To put my priorities in order, I would say:

Durability
Power
Gaming
Portability
Cost


Does the retina MBPS have enough USB ports to have a mic and a mouse plugged in at the same time? Honestly, the more USB ports the better.

How's the quality of the refurbs? Saving a few hundred would be great, but I only buy a computer once every eight years or so. If durability is a concern, maybe a brand new computer would be preferable. I want the protection plan and all that crap.

The 15" rMBP has 2 USB 3.0 ports and 2 Thunderbolt 2 ports, which is arguably better than most laptops at this point. You'll have to connect a USB or Thunderbolt hub for more peripherals at your desk, but that shouldn't really be a problem unless you need to have more than 2 USB devices plugged in while the thing is sitting on your lap or at Starbucks or whatever. All Macs come with Bluetooth so you can easily connect stuff like mice/keyboards that way too- and also stuff like Bluetooth headphones/speakers/etc if you want.

The retina iMac has plenty of ports, plenty of power, and probably the best display ever shipped as part of a consumer/prosumer computer. The 5k screen was basically designed to allow for native 4k editing with more than enough room for the software GUI (and also because it scales well with the non-retina iMac displays).

The rMBP maxes out at 16gb of RAM (which comes soldered to the logic board so you have to buy it that way) and the iMac at 32 (which you can buy for $200 online to save like $400) so both should be plenty future-proof. That said, it seems like the r-iMac would definitely be the better choice for you based on your list.

As for refurbs, they're the best. They're indistinguishable from a brand new computer, Apple treats them that way (they get a new serial number and everything- it's basically like a remanufacturing more than a refurbishment) and you end up saving a lot, particularly on BTO options. My rMBP would've been like $2700 new with the add-ons I wanted when I bought it last year. I spent, I think, a total of $2300 including AppleCare.

Also, it's worth mentioning that the performance of the 2013 rMBP is practically identical to that of the 2014 so you can save a bunch more in the refurb store that way too. The 2015 15" model won't come out until mid-summer, barring some major clusterfuck at Intel. Based on what happened with the 13" refresh, it looks like Broadwell won't bring any performance gains that IMO merit the extra cost of a brand new machine but it'll definitely get the fancy new voodoo force touch trackpad if that's important to you.

Still, I'd say get the iMac and maybe pick up an iPad or refurb Air or a chromebook or whatever at some point if you want something portable to dick around and do internet poo poo with.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Apr 26, 2015

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
You could also wait until the Broadwell refresh comes out so that refurb 2014's go on sale for cheaper.

Also don't get a Mac for gaming, since the best GPU's are going to be on the most expensive tiers. I had a maxed out 2011 iMac 27" for years and it couldn't keep up with a lot of modern titles in the last couple years. If gaming on a Mac really is important to you, however, the 27" iMac with a 4gb BTO Radeon is probably the best way to go.

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


best way to game on a mac is to use Steam Home Streaming from a homebuilt desktop PC, either over 802.11ac and a competent router, or a GigE hardline.

it's actually quite phenomenal, the kind of performance you can get when all the input and render output is happening remotely. i'm impressed with it anyway. games that move too quickly for video compression, like racing games, do sort of break it. everything looks like poo poo because, well, every frame is significantly different than the one before it. but in most cases it's great.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Yeah but the last few years haven't been that aggressive in terms of changing graphics needs. The top-shelf RiMac is pretty capable right now and probably could be counted on to remain at least "solid" for the next couple of years.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/10/28/the-retina-imac-and-its-5k-display-as-a-gaming-machine/

JHVH-1
Jun 28, 2002
I've been playing stuff on my 5k iMac in windows and OS X and it hasn't had any big issues. Sometimes you have to get the resolution down a bit, and maybe use medium quality settings to get better performance for online play. Single player though I can run things maxed out in most of the things I have tried and it looks pretty drat good. I plan on getting a thunderbolt external drive of some sort eventually to put my steam library on cause sharing between two OS fills things up quick.

I noticed earlier today that on the steam home streaming page there is a little note at the bottom mentioning they will be coming out with some sort of hosted option. I know OnLive will let you use some of your steam games but you have to pay an extra fee there and are limited to what games they support. It would be interesting to see what valve offers. If I can spin up any game in my library and stream in 1080p with the kind of performance I used to get with OnLive when I was a regular user it would be pretty cool.

admiraldennis
Jul 22, 2003

I am the stone that builder refused
I am the visual
The inspiration
That made lady sing the blues
Trying to revive my old mid-2010 17" MBP by swapping the 500GB mechanical drive with a nice 250GB SSD (Samsung EVO 840 - only $89 right now at MicroCenter!) and Yosemite.

Started noticing weird behavior right away; the 10.10.3 update failed checksum. I downloaded some SMART tools and - welp - UDMA CRC Error Count is increasing :(

Raw value is about ~150 following OS install + update. Didn't seem like this issue was happening with the old drive... cable looks totally fine; tried reseating and blowing out dust but no difference.

Next up I'll try a different drive and then ordering and replacing the SATA cable. Here's hoping this isn't the chipset. My pipe dream is that this is somehow the drive and I can just exchange it...

:sigh:

kuskus
Oct 20, 2007

admiraldennis posted:

with a nice 250GB SSD (Samsung EVO 840 - only $89 right now at MicroCenter!)
Before you incite a :goonrush: to microcenter, only the 120 is $89.99, and it's in-store only.

Edit: do you have a cheap optibay around to try the other drive slot?

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
Chiming into say my top-Spec riMac handles bootcamped games great.

The first thing to really tell it to gently caress off was GTAV. And I think that's just an ATI driver issue or something because no matter how low I plink all settings it stutters the world by.

The worst part of bootcamp is lack of current driver updates.

JHVH-1
Jun 28, 2002

Feenix posted:

Chiming into say my top-Spec riMac handles bootcamped games great.

The first thing to really tell it to gently caress off was GTAV. And I think that's just an ATI driver issue or something because no matter how low I plink all settings it stutters the world by.

The worst part of bootcamp is lack of current driver updates.

Yeah the driver support kinda sucks. There is one newer driver than what is in bootcamp from 12/16/2014 on the website. You have to select "MAC Graphics" (yes all in caps because maybe they think it is made by the cosmetic company)
I don't know how different the chip could be from other implementations, but I can't imagine it would be too involved to roll it in with everything else. Maybe there is some dumb contractual thing or they just have one guy that is the "MAC" driver guy.

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admiraldennis
Jul 22, 2003

I am the stone that builder refused
I am the visual
The inspiration
That made lady sing the blues

kuskus posted:

Before you incite a :goonrush: to microcenter, only the 120 is $89.99, and it's in-store only.

Oh, I guess the deal expired :(



kuskus posted:

Edit: do you have a cheap optibay around to try the other drive slot?

Sadly no but that's a good thought. If it turns out to be the chipset, and it's only the one port, I guess I could forego my superdrive to have a working machine...

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